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LOL that pretty much sums up what I've always thought about private schools. But I don't know anyone who goes to a private school, so I can't comment on the arrogance bit except for generalisations that the vast majority of private school students are arrogant snobs....seems I've picked up some very bad opinions of them from somewhere :toung:
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I quite enjoy being spoon fed through exams tbh.
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Unless you count being spoon fed through exams and arrogance as benefits.
tell me...how was i spoon fed through my exams?
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I was neither. I went to a school that was independently funded, the pupils didn't make a contribution but neither did the state.

My sister is at private school, one that i was offered a part scholarship at but didn't want to take.

I've got a lot of friends at both types of school, but it does really depend on the student how they turn out as well.
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Exactly what does 'spoon-feeding' people through exams involve?
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Maybe TheWolf would like to explain? Since I've not been privately educated I would really know tbh, but it almost certainly doesn't involve learning 2/3 of the course without a teacher as I'm doing this year in one of my subjects.
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
Maybe TheWolf would like to explain? Since I've not been privately educated I would really know tbh, but it almost certainly doesn't involve learning 2/3 of the course without a teacher as I'm doing this year in one of my subjects.
as it was your comment, perhaps you'd like to explain it?

if you believe all private schools are full of posh toffs where everyone drives a land rover and sits in plush classrooms with laptops and the like, you're very much mistaken, and ignorant.

infact, i can guarantee your state school has more resources than my private school ever did.
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But that's not being spoon fed through exams, is it? In the state system, you're entitled to a teacher if the school offers the subject; it's your school's problem, nothing to do with the fact that they went to private school.
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(Original post by Sa-ra-ra-ra)
But that's not being spoon fed through exams, is it? In the state system, you're entitled to a teacher if the school offers the subject; it's your school's problem, nothing to do with the fact that they went to private school.
I agree. You can't judge us all in the same way just because we went to a private school!
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as it was your comment, perhaps you'd like to explain it?

if you believe all private schools are full of posh toffs where everyone drives a land rover and sits in plush classrooms with laptops and the like, you're very much mistaken, and ignorant.

infact, i can guarantee your state school has more resources than my private school ever did.
whats wrong with you?

why would you go to a private school thats worse than a state school?!1!??! my secondary was so bad i almost guarantee your school had more stuff than mine.... actually, we did get lots of money near the end for computers and stuff...
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(Original post by horsecrazy)
I obviously can't generalise about state schoolers as a whole but I've found that I've had many intersting and open minded discussions with people from school - and though chances are the majority of them are from working class backgrounds are not a common topic of conversation. I've also found from modern studies discussions (politics based subject we do in scotland) how unstereotypical and knowledgable my classmates are. I really dont know how you can class a school as average or not but from this is a school which is just under the national average for exam results by a couple of %. Parents do have a part to play in how their kids turn out, as do schools and friends. However its the person themselves that decides how they will turn out - state schoolers just have to work a hell of a lot harder than those at private schools.
there will be a couple of knowledgable people in every school, wherever you look... they may or may not be from a working class background, although in most cases you'd find that their parents tend to be more middle class, or have middle class tendencies. however, if you were to speak to any joe bloggs in your school, would they be interested in current affairs? my guess is that if you spoke to an 'average' private school pupil, they would have more of an opinion.
i think you're fortunate to have gone to quite a good school (regardless of the national GCSE average) in that they seem to promote other interests outside of your school curriculum.

private school pupils have to work just as hard imo... they undoubtedly have better quality of teachers and a better working environment, which allows them to learn more about their subject, but that is no reason to discriminate and completely discredit their work. the good grades have to be earned at private schools as well, you don't find people walking in and out of school with good grades having done no work, unless they were absolute geniuses.
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whats wrong with you?

why would you go to a private school thats worse than a state school?!1!??! my secondary was so bad i almost guarantee your school had more stuff than mine.... actually, we did get lots of money near the end for computers and stuff...
who said it was worse?

and no, you're school definately had more than mine
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whats wrong with you?

why would you go to a private school thats worse than a state school?!1!??! my secondary was so bad i almost guarantee your school had more stuff than mine.... actually, we did get lots of money near the end for computers and stuff...
state schools can apply for 'foundation status' etc, and in return they get alot of funding in terms of money and IT equipment.

public schools earn all of their money through school fees and school-owned properties and shares. and they have to pay a hell of a lot of taxes, now that the government are anti-private schools, and are lookign to take away the charitable status of alot of private schools.

so if the trend continues, one may find that private schools end up with worse equipment than their state equivalents. i know that in more than one country, it's often the state schools which are better, and where the people who didn't make it to a free education have to pay their own way instead - exactly the opposite from the british system!
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Obviously everyone has to do some work to pass exams - in my opinion though people at state schools arent expected do well and are given less help from teachers and have to work harder than perhaps some of those who are at private schools. All teachers and schools can't be grouped together and I'm sure there are some awful teachers in private schools - but from my experience it seems privately educated people are given more help.
if you believe all private schools are full of posh toffs where everyone drives a land rover and sits in plush classrooms with laptops and the like, you're very much mistaken, and ignorant.
When did I say this?? Of course I dont think this ....
however, if you were to speak to any joe bloggs in your school, would they be interested in current affairs? my guess is that if you spoke to an 'average' private school pupil, they would have more of an opinion
You seriously believe people at private school have more of an opinion in current affairs ( or in fact in anything??) than someone at a state school?
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i know that in more than one country, it's often the state schools which are better, and where the people who didn't make it to a free education have to pay their own way instead - exactly the opposite from the british system!
This sounds like an interesting idea
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Can someone fill me in please. I'm not from the UK, but aren't private schools better, in terms of teaching and facilities? That is why parents pay for them right? Yet why do some people feel it's unfair that the private school people have better teaching, and hence creating dislike between private schoolers and state schoolers?
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One of my teachers( who has worked in both the state and private sectors) said that many of the pupils that she taught in the state sector just didnt want to work. Maybe thats why the private pupils are achieving better.When you know you've got money being spent on you ,you kind of feel that anything less than an A is a fail. Major generalisation, I know!
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(Original post by Elles)
or..some private schools only go to 16 - so parents & offspring have no choice but to find another 6th form & all the stand alone 6th forms in my area are state..

that would be what happened in my case. so let's not generalise too much here.. :p: & you have to put all your secondary schools on UCAS - at leats you did when i applied - so they would have been fully aware where i went pre-16.

& TBH, glad i went to a private school from ~ 6-16.
ideally it wouldn't have been necessary but my parents (& on the advice of specialists) weren't happy with the mess the local state system was in so felt somewhat forced into it.

when it comes to 6th forms - i think the private/state distinction is less important - i could have done the same wherever i went - only perhaps being private would have caused more pressure!

I am re-iterating what many parents have told the 6th form head of my school. We have an intake of about 200 in the lower 6th and many of the new kids are from independent schools which also have 6th forms offering academic/vocational subjects. They are quite open about the reasons for the change over, ie to be able to put down their school on their UCAS application as a state school - for the very reasons I said in my previous post.

Obviously, there might be reasons other than this for a few parents but it stands to reason that no parent would remove their kid from a school where they have been for 5 years unless the attractions of the move were in their best interests!
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surely APS not RIP
lol, like technik said...
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(Original post by PublicSchoolAnn)
One of my teachers( who has worked in both the state and private sectors) said that many of the pupils that she taught in the state sector just didnt want to work. Maybe thats why the private pupils are achieving better.When you know you've got money being spent on you ,you kind of feel that anything less than an A is a fail. Major generalisation, I know!
you're completely right though. alot of it is a motivational issue more than anything else. guys in my state school who were just as intelligent as my private school counterparts have ended up not going to uni, not cuz of **** teaching or lack of resources, but because of a lack of motivation and the idea that studying is 'uncool'
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