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I was wondering if anyone wanted to weigh in on how strong an application the think i have, considering my Lnat is in 5 days.
A Level Predictions: A*AA, Politics, history, English and an A* In EPQ
GCSES: 9, 8,7,7,7, 666, 55
Extra Curriculars include being president of the debate society at my College, being a member of Liberty, obviously lots and lots of relevant reading, Yale and Harvard online course completions, being a Scout so Duke of Edinbourough and leading many international expeditions, 4 in total, im also a Lifeguard and an exeptional talker/public speaker, interview skills.

Im applying to study Law at Oxford, Philosophy, Law and Politics at Kings College London, Law and Politics at Manchester, and im unsure of my other two as of now but probably not Lnat Univirseties just in case.
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I was wondering if anyone wanted to weigh in on how strong an application the think i have, considering my Lnat is in 5 days.
A Level Predictions: A*AA, Politics, history, English and an A* In EPQ
GCSES: 9, 8,7,7,7, 666, 55
Extra Curriculars include being president of the debate society at my College, being a member of Liberty, obviously lots and lots of relevant reading, Yale and Harvard online course completions, being a Scout so Duke of Edinbourough and leading many international expeditions, 4 in total, im also a Lifeguard and an exeptional talker/public speaker, interview skills.

Im applying to study Law at Oxford, Philosophy, Law and Politics at Kings College London, Law and Politics at Manchester, and im unsure of my other two as of now but probably not Lnat Univirseties just in case.
Oxford is a difficult to predict as many more get rejected than accepted, The other 2 you are most likely to get offers. As for non LNAT universities most dont require it. Exeter might be a good option along with places like Birmingham, Southampton, Warwick, Leeds and Sheffield.
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Oxford is a difficult to predict as many more get rejected than accepted, The other 2 you are most likely to get offers. As for non LNAT universities most dont require it. Exeter might be a good option along with places like Birmingham, Southampton, Warwick, Leeds and Sheffield.
Thank you for your reply, I'll definitely look into the other options you suggested
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How was your LNAT?
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How was your LNAT?
I feel like it went decently well, the essay was definitely strong and i had a lot of time to review the multiple choice questions so hopefully that allowed me to figure out quite a few answers. Thank you for asking
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I was wondering if anyone wanted to weigh in on how strong an application the think i have, considering my Lnat is in 5 days.
A Level Predictions: A*AA, Politics, history, English and an A* In EPQ
GCSES: 9, 8,7,7,7, 666, 55
Extra Curriculars include being president of the debate society at my College, being a member of Liberty, obviously lots and lots of relevant reading, Yale and Harvard online course completions, being a Scout so Duke of Edinbourough and leading many international expeditions, 4 in total, im also a Lifeguard and an exeptional talker/public speaker, interview skills.

Im applying to study Law at Oxford, Philosophy, Law and Politics at Kings College London, Law and Politics at Manchester, and im unsure of my other two as of now but probably not Lnat Univirseties just in case.
You are a stong candidate for Kings and Manchester but not sure about Oxford - maybe Oxford Mum can help out with her statistics on Law at Oxford?

Anyway, you seem to have a sensible approach about not putting all your eggs in one basket so I'm sure you will get into a great uni
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You are a stong candidate for Kings and Manchester but not sure about Oxford - maybe Oxford Mum can help out with her statistics on Law at Oxford?

Anyway, you seem to have a sensible approach about not putting all your eggs in one basket so I'm sure you will get into a great uni
Yeah i had a similar feeling, might as well apply to Oxford anyways see what happens, but im betting on Kings, besides Kings has the better course in my opinion, Law, Politics and Philosophy sounds way more fun than the basic Jurisprudence counterpart at Oxford
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The average Oxford law candidate has 5.2 x 8/9s. The average successful Oxford law offer holders has 8 or 9 x 8/9s.

So I am afraid your chances are not great for Oxford.

More tellingly, you are saying a course at another uni is going to be more “fun”. Which leads me to ask, what on earth is the reason to apply to Oxford in the first place. There will be people who are willing to sell their grannies to get into Oxford law, with stupendous grades and lots of specialised research under their belts.

How are you going to compete?
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I'd probably suggest looking at Cambridge for Law rather than Oxford, since Cambridge are much less fussed about GCSEs generally than Oxford, and you meet the entry criteria for Cambridge anyway (unless they've increased it). The other options look good I think.
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I'd probably suggest looking at Cambridge for Law rather than Oxford, since Cambridge are much less fussed about GCSEs generally than Oxford, and you meet the entry criteria for Cambridge anyway (unless they've increased it). The other options look good I think.
I think that chance has passed in honesty
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I was wondering if anyone wanted to weigh in on how strong an application the think i have, considering my Lnat is in 5 days.
A Level Predictions: A*AA, Politics, history, English and an A* In EPQ
GCSES: 9, 8,7,7,7, 666, 55
Extra Curriculars include being president of the debate society at my College, being a member of Liberty, obviously lots and lots of relevant reading, Yale and Harvard online course completions, being a Scout so Duke of Edinbourough and leading many international expeditions, 4 in total, im also a Lifeguard and an exeptional talker/public speaker, interview skills.

Im applying to study Law at Oxford, Philosophy, Law and Politics at Kings College London, Law and Politics at Manchester, and im unsure of my other two as of now but probably not Lnat Univirseties just in case.
I think that you've been misled about what makes a good P.S.

President of Debating - Irrelevant, especially given that it's only at school level and that it doesn't prepare you for legal study (being good at debating is another matter)
Member of Liberty - Interesting, but you need to tie it to studying law
Relevant reading - What did you read? How did it make you want to study law?
Online competitions - What were they? Did you achieve anything? Same point about how they either interested you in law or make you a better candidate
Scout - Irrelevant
DofE - Irrelevant & doesn't make you stand out, everyone has it
Lifeguard - Irrelevant
'Exceptional talker' - Proof? And irrelevant to the law degree. Probably something for a CV if it can be backed up
Interview skills - Irrelevant, can't talk about them, don't matter until you demonstrate them on interview day

Lots of typos in your post, GCSE grades are weak for Oxford. Go to whatdotheyknow.com and search for 'Oxford GCSEs'. That should help quantify your chances are bit!
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I think that chance has passed in honesty
Why would you have missed the chance for Cambridge but not Oxford...? They have the same application deadline.
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I think that you've been misled about what makes a good P.S.

President of Debating - Irrelevant, especially given that it's only at school level and that it doesn't prepare you for legal study (being good at debating is another matter)
Member of Liberty - Interesting, but you need to tie it to studying law
Relevant reading - What did you read? How did it make you want to study law?
Online competitions - What were they? Did you achieve anything? Same point about how they either interested you in law or make you a better candidate
Scout - Irrelevant
DofE - Irrelevant & doesn't make you stand out, everyone has it
Lifeguard - Irrelevant
'Exceptional talker' - Proof? And irrelevant to the law degree. Probably something for a CV if it can be backed up
Interview skills - Irrelevant, can't talk about them, don't matter until you demonstrate them on interview day

Lots of typos in your post, GCSE grades are weak for Oxford. Go to whatdotheyknow.com and search for 'Oxford GCSEs'. That should help quantify your chances are bit!
Respectfully, i think you've entirely missed the point, everything that ive put im my post is paraphrased from my PS, everything I've wrpte about has been linked into studying law, studying in general or been used to highlight personal qualities which i have, i obviously didn't write it as i put it in the post. The part about interview skills for example isn't in my statement and just a personal quality of mine. To some extent i think you missed the point of a personal statement, its to be personal and universities including Oxford don't just want someone who is highly academic, though i assure you the vast majority of my PS is about academics, however i feel like that was more than implied and therefore omitted it from my post
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Why would you have missed the chance for Cambridge but not Oxford...? They have the same application deadline.
I was thinking more about the entrance exams, I've done my LNAT but i don't know when the deadline is for cambridges entrance exam
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I was thinking more about the entrance exams, I've done my LNAT but i don't know when the deadline is for cambridges entrance exam
You take the CLT at interview if you are invited for interview. You don't need to take any pre-interview admissions assessments, and you don't need to pre-register for the CLT. Some colleges require you to submit written work, but not all, and otherwise you just need to put it down on your UCAS form
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I was thinking more about the entrance exams, I've done my LNAT but i don't know when the deadline is for cambridges entrance exam
You give the CLT only if you’ve been called to interview tho
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Respectfully, i think you've entirely missed the point, everything that ive put im my post is paraphrased from my PS, everything I've wrpte about has been linked into studying law, studying in general or been used to highlight personal qualities which i have, i obviously didn't write it as i put it in the post. The part about interview skills for example isn't in my statement and just a personal quality of mine. To some extent i think you missed the point of a personal statement, its to be personal and universities including Oxford don't just want someone who is highly academic, though i assure you the vast majority of my PS is about academics, however i feel like that was more than implied and therefore omitted it from my post
Universities like Oxford only want super academic people. It's why Cambridge came up with the term 'super-curricular' - it's to distinguish academic and academically relevant achievements from achievements like being a lifeguard which are interesting per se but completely irrelevant to your interest in the course or intellectual achievements. This isn't the US. But it's your funeral.

My point is that it's very difficult to figure out a way to spin many of your achievements in a P.S. I know that you're not posting the full draft of the P.S. here.
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You take the CLT at interview if you are invited for interview. You don't need to take any pre-interview admissions assessments, and you don't need to pre-register for the CLT. Some colleges require you to submit written work, but not all, and otherwise you just need to put it down on your UCAS form
Oh, then that might actually be a good idea, thank you
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Universities like Oxford only want super academic people. It's why Cambridge came up with the term 'super-curricular' - it's to distinguish academic and academically relevant achievements from achievements like being a lifeguard which are interesting per se but completely irrelevant to your interest in the course or intellectual achievements. This isn't the US. But it's your funeral.

My point is that it's very difficult to figure out a way to spin many of your achievements in a P.S. I know that you're not posting the full draft of the P.S. here.
I promise you, after considerable number of drafts and input from quite a few, very experienced admissions tutors with stellar records that my achivements all reinforce my statememt
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You give the CLT only if you’ve been called to interview tho
Yeah thats what I've been told, i might change up my application
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