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Hi everyone, I want became a nurse but is so difficult for me to understand this education system as I am from Poland and it is so different. So I am 28 years old, living in England since 2018 and would like to apply for adult nursing but I don't meet the requirements, my Polish certificates are so poor as I never thought I will ever want study so I decided to do everything from beginning and that's my question how would you advice me to do this? My plan for now (2020 entry if is not too late) is to do GCSE English and Maths and IELTS this year and next (2021 entry) I want apply for access to nursing course at some college and after that (2022 entry) apply to Uni. Do you think it will be enough to enrol Nursing at Uni? Have you got any other ideas how I could do this better? Also shall I do access to nursing at college or pay for it and do it online? I will be really grateful for any advice. Thanks
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Hi everyone, I want became a nurse but is so difficult for me to understand this education system as I am from Poland and it is so different. So I am 28 years old, living in England since 2018 and would like to apply for adult nursing but I don't meet the requirements, my Polish certificates are so poor as I never thought I will ever want study so I decided to do everything from beginning and that's my question how would you advice me to do this? My plan for now (2020 entry if is not too late) is to do GCSE English and Maths and IELTS this year and next (2021 entry) I want apply for access to nursing course at some college and after that (2022 entry) apply to Uni. Do you think it will be enough to enrol Nursing at Uni? Have you got any other ideas how I could do this better? Also shall I do access to nursing at college or pay for it and do it online? I will be really grateful for any advice. Thanks
you might not need ielts if you can get the gcse in English, otherwise it's a good plan if you can do the access course in person at college i would go for that.
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Hi everyone, I want became a nurse but is so difficult for me to understand this education system as I am from Poland and it is so different. So I am 28 years old, living in England since 2018 and would like to apply for adult nursing but I don't meet the requirements, my Polish certificates are so poor as I never thought I will ever want study so I decided to do everything from beginning and that's my question how would you advice me to do this? My plan for now (2020 entry if is not too late) is to do GCSE English and Maths and IELTS this year and next (2021 entry) I want apply for access to nursing course at some college and after that (2022 entry) apply to Uni. Do you think it will be enough to enrol Nursing at Uni? Have you got any other ideas how I could do this better? Also shall I do access to nursing at college or pay for it and do it online? I will be really grateful for any advice. Thanks
Started answering this last nigh and it crashed.

1. 28 isnt old and many people doing nursing are mature students.
2. I am assuming you are a full Polish citizen and were living in Poland or the EU beforehand for 2+ years?
3. Dont worry plenty of people start from scratch.
4. I assume you have applied for pre settled status under the settlement scheme?
https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families
As you will know the UK left the EU at the end of this January but if you apply for the settlement scheme you can preserve your rights if you are an EU citizen living in the UK.
5. Stage 1 Get GCSE English and Maths. these are useful for employment as well as getting on this course and uni, there are some shorter and faster ones called Functional skills L2, which are accepted by most, but if you have the ability and time GCSE is better as its accepted everywhere. If you are going to struggle then check your target uni will accept Functional skills instead of GCSE, some do and some do not. It should be free. GCSE held 2x a year, FS held every 6 weeks.
6. Stage 2 Getting level 3 qualifications. You can find local colleges and access courses using the links below. 1 year course 15 marked essays of 3 credits each and 5 non graded. You get a score out of 45 when they add up Passes, Merits and Distinctions. Get as many M and D as you can.

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/
https://www.accesstohe.ac.uk/course-search


7. The next issue is funding and it is important. Education from 19 onwards is not free, so people have to take loans out called advanced learner loans, they are awarded on the same basis as student finance in terms of eligibility. Access courses cost several thousand £ so its best and may be your only choice to get a loan. I would say brick course with a tutor and classmates is better for 3 days a week or a weekend, but some people dont have the time and have to do online which can be lonely and requires more discipline.

In this situation you need to be registered on the settlement scheme and to also prove you have been in the UK and EU for the last 3 years. by the time you enrol in 2021.
https://www.gov.uk/advanced-learner-loan

8. During time on the access course and sometime inbetween Sept 2021 and Jan 2022 you apply to 5 nursing courses that interest you using the UCAS administration system and based on your predicted grades plus reference you will get offers which state the grades you need.
https://www.ucas.com/undergraduate/a...al-eu-students

You will also apply to student finance to get the fees paid in something like Feb 2022. This is independent of UCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/eu-students

9. The contentious thing for EU students has always been they get fees paid, but no maintenance loan for accommodation and food. The usual ways round this have been to get a job for about 15 hours a week, which entitles you to a loan under the working migrants scheme. Because its nursing, this may be impossible for you.

10. The other way is if you have been in the UK for 5 years, then you can apply for a maintenance loan as well If this is correct, then my advice is to finish the access course in 2022 and then wait till your 5 years are completed in 2023, so you can apply on the same basis as home student and get a maintenance loan. That would be the smart thing to do imo and worth many thousands.


I think this is what I wrote last night before it crashed, but in short as Claire says your plan is good.
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Started answering this last nigh and it crashed.

1. 28 isnt old and many people doing nursing are mature students.
2. I am assuming you are a full Polish citizen and were living in Poland or the EU beforehand for 2+ years?
3. Dont worry plenty of people start from scratch.
4. I assume you have applied for pre settled status under the settlement scheme?
https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families
As you will know the UK left the EU at the end of this January but if you apply for the settlement scheme you can preserve your rights if you are an EU citizen living in the UK.
5. Stage 1 Get GCSE English and Maths. these are useful for employment as well as getting on this course and uni, there are some shorter and faster ones called Functional skills L2, which are accepted by most, but if you have the ability and time GCSE is better as its accepted everywhere. If you are going to struggle then check your target uni will accept Functional skills instead of GCSE, some do and some do not. It should be free. GCSE held 2x a year, FS held every 6 weeks.
6. Stage 2 Getting level 3 qualifications. You can find local colleges and access courses using the links below. 1 year course 15 marked essays of 3 credits each and 5 non graded. You get a score out of 45 when they add up Passes, Merits and Distinctions. Get as many M and D as you can.

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/
https://www.accesstohe.ac.uk/course-search


7. The next issue is funding and it is important. Education from 19 onwards is not free, so people have to take loans out called advanced learner loans, they are awarded on the same basis as student finance in terms of eligibility. Access courses cost several thousand £ so its best and may be your only choice to get a loan. I would say brick course with a tutor and classmates is better for 3 days a week or a weekend, but some people dont have the time and have to do online which can be lonely and requires more discipline.

In this situation you need to be registered on the settlement scheme and to also prove you have been in the UK and EU for the last 3 years. by the time you enrol in 2021.
https://www.gov.uk/advanced-learner-loan

8. During time on the access course and sometime inbetween Sept 2021 and Jan 2022 you apply to 5 nursing courses that interest you using the UCAS administration system and based on your predicted grades plus reference you will get offers which state the grades you need.
https://www.ucas.com/undergraduate/a...al-eu-students

You will also apply to student finance to get the fees paid in something like Feb 2022. This is independent of UCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/eu-students

9. The contentious thing for EU students has always been they get fees paid, but no maintenance loan for accommodation and food. The usual ways round this have been to get a job for about 15 hours a week, which entitles you to a loan under the working migrants scheme. Because its nursing, this may be impossible for you.

10. The other way is if you have been in the UK for 5 years, then you can apply for a maintenance loan as well If this is correct, then my advice is to finish the access course in 2022 and then wait till your 5 years are completed in 2023, so you can apply on the same basis as home student and get a maintenance loan. That would be the smart thing to do imo and worth many thousands.


I think this is what I wrote last night before it crashed, but in short as Claire says your plan is good.
Thank you so so much!
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Hi everyone, I want became a nurse but is so difficult for me to understand this education system as I am from Poland and it is so different. So I am 28 years old, living in England since 2018 and would like to apply for adult nursing but I don't meet the requirements, my Polish certificates are so poor as I never thought I will ever want study so I decided to do everything from beginning and that's my question how would you advice me to do this? My plan for now (2020 entry if is not too late) is to do GCSE English and Maths and IELTS this year and next (2021 entry) I want apply for access to nursing course at some college and after that (2022 entry) apply to Uni. Do you think it will be enough to enrol Nursing at Uni? Have you got any other ideas how I could do this better? Also shall I do access to nursing at college or pay for it and do it online? I will be really grateful for any advice. Thanks
First of all to do in order to study nursing you would need some science qualifications to do the nursing course at college. You need a minimum of 5 gcses including maths , English and science or equivalent to do your nursing course.So try to do a level 2 course in science. You won't be able to do the access to nursing course at college because you need a minimum of five gcses. So you would need pass a science course.
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First of all to do in order to study nursing you would need some science qualifications to do the nursing course at college. You need a minimum of 5 gcses including maths , English and science or equivalent to do your nursing course.So try to do a level 2 course in science. You won't be able to do the access to nursing course at college because you need a minimum of five gcses. So you would need pass a science course.
no that's not a requirement for access to nursing at college, I need only GCSE Math and English and you can do them even alongside the access, I must do GCSE English before asses because I only studied English as foreign language. That is the information I got from colleges I ask about my situation.
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First of all to do in order to study nursing you would need some science qualifications to do the nursing course at college. You need a minimum of 5 gcses including maths , English and science or equivalent to do your nursing course.So try to do a level 2 course in science. You won't be able to do the access to nursing course at college because you need a minimum of five gcses. So you would need pass a science course.

The whole point of access courses is that they can do them with minimal qualifications.
As already pointed out they should get English and Maths as they are useful afterwards, but many colleges let you sit them at the same time as access.
They do not require 5x GCSE.
Only a few require a science and even then they have the discretion to waive it..

Feel free to post some links to where access to nursing requires 5 x GCSE.

City and Islington.
https://www.candi.ac.uk/course-detai...diploma/10557/

Wakefield
https://www.solihull.ac.uk/course/ac...professionals/

Liverpool
https://www.liv-coll.ac.uk/courses/a...-access-to-he/

Bristol
https://www.cityofbristol.ac.uk/cour...her-education/

Manchester
https://www.ucenmanchester.ac.uk/cou...-and-midwifery
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Started answering this last nigh and it crashed.

1. 28 isnt old and many people doing nursing are mature students.
2. I am assuming you are a full Polish citizen and were living in Poland or the EU beforehand for 2+ years?
3. Dont worry plenty of people start from scratch.
4. I assume you have applied for pre settled status under the settlement scheme?
https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families
As you will know the UK left the EU at the end of this January but if you apply for the settlement scheme you can preserve your rights if you are an EU citizen living in the UK.
5. Stage 1 Get GCSE English and Maths. these are useful for employment as well as getting on this course and uni, there are some shorter and faster ones called Functional skills L2, which are accepted by most, but if you have the ability and time GCSE is better as its accepted everywhere. If you are going to struggle then check your target uni will accept Functional skills instead of GCSE, some do and some do not. It should be free. GCSE held 2x a year, FS held every 6 weeks.
6. Stage 2 Getting level 3 qualifications. You can find local colleges and access courses using the links below. 1 year course 15 marked essays of 3 credits each and 5 non graded. You get a score out of 45 when they add up Passes, Merits and Distinctions. Get as many M and D as you can.

https://www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/
https://www.accesstohe.ac.uk/course-search


7. The next issue is funding and it is important. Education from 19 onwards is not free, so people have to take loans out called advanced learner loans, they are awarded on the same basis as student finance in terms of eligibility. Access courses cost several thousand £ so its best and may be your only choice to get a loan. I would say brick course with a tutor and classmates is better for 3 days a week or a weekend, but some people dont have the time and have to do online which can be lonely and requires more discipline.

In this situation you need to be registered on the settlement scheme and to also prove you have been in the UK and EU for the last 3 years. by the time you enrol in 2021.
https://www.gov.uk/advanced-learner-loan

8. During time on the access course and sometime inbetween Sept 2021 and Jan 2022 you apply to 5 nursing courses that interest you using the UCAS administration system and based on your predicted grades plus reference you will get offers which state the grades you need.
https://www.ucas.com/undergraduate/a...al-eu-students

You will also apply to student finance to get the fees paid in something like Feb 2022. This is independent of UCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/eu-students

9. The contentious thing for EU students has always been they get fees paid, but no maintenance loan for accommodation and food. The usual ways round this have been to get a job for about 15 hours a week, which entitles you to a loan under the working migrants scheme. Because its nursing, this may be impossible for you.

10. The other way is if you have been in the UK for 5 years, then you can apply for a maintenance loan as well If this is correct, then my advice is to finish the access course in 2022 and then wait till your 5 years are completed in 2023, so you can apply on the same basis as home student and get a maintenance loan. That would be the smart thing to do imo and worth many thousands.


I think this is what I wrote last night before it crashed, but in short as Claire says your plan is good.
Do you think that plan could work in Scotland also? I am thinking about moving there (Edinbrough) and know that fees are lower. Just doing my research now it's even more complicated than in England
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Do you think that plan could work in Scotland also? I am thinking about moving there (Edinbrough) and know that fees are lower. Just doing my research now it's even more complicated than in England
GCSE+ Level 3 + Uni are the stages.
Scotland is more complicated if you want to use the Scottish education system.
It is complicated because without looking it up I dont know the impact of the settlement scheme and residence on SAAS entitlement.
You would need to contact SAAS or maybe UKCISA.


https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/About-UKCISA/Contact-us
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GCSE+ Level 3 + Uni are the stages.
Scotland is more complicated if you want to use the Scottish education system.
It is complicated because without looking it up I dont know the impact of the settlement scheme and residence on SAAS entitlement.
You would need to contact SAAS or maybe UKCISA.


https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/About-UKCISA/Contact-us
Thank you !
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Thank you !
Dont have the energy to sort out that conumdrum, so speak to those referred to. Its quite niche knowledge about how EU citizens who have signed up for the settlement scheme who have lived in England will be treated when they cross the border and if. how residence rules will apply for funding.
One side or the other will pay.
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