Will you support it if positive eugenics is free?

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The liberal eugenics, like parents choosing certain characteristics they prefer using human genetic engineering, instead of the negative eugenics. In order to externalise the affordability, let's assume it is free for everyone?
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I don’t like how it’s like putting items in shopping cart. It’s highly immoral tbh, u should just accept your children as they are not modelling them into your dream child.
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No, I'll never support any form of eugenics.
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No.
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Eugenics is never positive.
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I'd only pay for it. Nothing good is free.
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For some qualities such as intelligence yes I absolutely would support a government funded program to make it so everyone starts at roughly the same (very high) level, although obviously it would be preferable if this was provided later in life so the kids could make the choice themselves.

I had a few friends in secondary who were really great people but very thick and I don’t think they’re going to move past min wage. I also have an older friend who wanted to be a doctor, tried for ages, did all the work exp/prep but just couldn’t get the grades even after multiple attempts, her child then applied and it sounds like the exact same thing happened. This stuff is so sad and if it could be prevented by making a few alterations to the embryos genetic code it seems like the right thing to do, it doesn’t mean you’re hitler it means you want everyone to have the same start in life.

For stuff like skin or hair colour it would be a firm no.

(Original post by Ramipril)
I'd only pay for it. Nothing good is free.
Lol, I’m sure that would be the reality and why it would need to be very heavily regulated to prevent rich people becoming a different species.
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I feel like it could be useful in making people less likely to get cancers, allergies and the like but then where would you draw the line?
People have different views of what are problems and in some cases people view mental conditions as negative but they are also what makes a person who they are (I'm trying not to cause an argument with this).

In summary things that are only negative like the aforementioned autoimmune diseases, cancers and allergies should be prevented as they do not make up the person's personality they are just a predisposition to illness and the person would live better life without them.
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(Original post by WhatNameToUse)
The liberal eugenics, like parents choosing certain characteristics they prefer using human genetic engineering, instead of the negative eugenics. In order to externalise the affordability, let's assume it is free for everyone?
I’d support eugenics. If you can remove genetic diseases and associated suffering from our future populations then I can’t be against it.
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(Original post by Rufus the red)
I feel like it could be useful in making people less likely to get cancers, allergies and the like but then where would you draw the line?
People have different views of what are problems and in some cases people view mental conditions as negative but they are also what makes a person who they are (I'm trying not to cause an argument with this).

In summary things that are only negative like the aforementioned autoimmune diseases, cancers and allergies should be prevented as they do not make up the person's personality they are just a predisposition to illness and the person would live better life without them.
Well clearly mental illness is something you’d also eliminate through eugenics as it also causes suffering/can lead to suicide
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Never, where do you draw the line at editing out “flaws”? Which are flaws and which aren’t? But, evolutionary a lot of physical and mental disorders would have been eradicated from our species if we left people to their own devises so I guess some people could argue we are taking evolution into our own hands. I just fear “differences” will be less and less and what makes us unique will be eradicated by making a “perfect” human.
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(Original post by Lazarevic)
Well clearly mental illness is something you’d also eliminate through eugenics as it also causes suffering/can lead to suicide
But some people can argue that some forms of mental illness make up the person's personality and if we remove mental illness you would end up with no one who sees the world differently.

I just want to say that I'm trying to be as objective as possible and think from both opinions.
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(Original post by Mroelildy)
Never, where do you draw the line at editing out “flaws”? Which are flaws and which aren’t? But, evolutionary a lot of physical and mental disorders would have been eradicated from our species if we left people to their own devises so I guess some people could argue we are taking evolution into our own hands. I just fear “differences” will be less and less and what makes us unique will be eradicated by making a “perfect” human.
In my message I made a similar point but added that the eradication of diseases which increase mortality such as autoimmune diseases and predisposition to cancers could be things that should be removed from society as they only increase suffering and mortality.
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(Original post by Rufus the red)
But some people can argue that some forms of mental illness make up the person's personality and if we remove mental illness you would end up with no one who sees the world differently.

I just want to say that I'm trying to be as objective as possible and think from both opinions.
Well I’d like to think people are more than their bipolar/schizophrenia disorders but okay...
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(Original post by Lazarevic)
Well I’d like to think people are more than their bipolar/schizophrenia disorders but okay...
I completely agree but there are other mental illnesses such as autism which isn't necessarily a bad thing if it isn't severe.
The problem really is where to draw the line.
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(Original post by Rufus the red)
In my message I made a similar point but added that the eradication of diseases which increase mortality such as autoimmune diseases and predisposition to cancers could be things that should be removed from society as they only increase suffering and mortality.
Very true, I hate my autoimmune disorder and without drugs I would be dead and the condition wouldn’t still be part of our society. So I guess we would be reversing what us as humans have let live on by removing them from future gens
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Nah, Humans can't be trusted with eugenics, look what we do when given such opportunities?
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Absolutely not. People would all create some kind of model child and then some people wouldn't do it and it would create this huge divide. Just sounds like some kind of dystopia that I hope never comes to fruition. I think editing people in this way is just flat out wrong- even in regards to intelligence like some said
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(Original post by pineapplepink)
Absolutely not. People would all create some kind of model child and then some people wouldn't do it and it would create this huge divide. Just sounds like some kind of dystopia that I hope never comes to fruition. I think editing people in this way is just flat out wrong- even in regards to intelligence like some said
I think eradication of genetic disorders would be very advantageous for humanity, considering they only create suffering...
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I don't know of a single person I would trust with that kind of power.
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