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(Original post by _Mazza_)
Really? Am I the only one who thinks Owen is overrated.

I'd have thought Agbonlahor would've got a call up for the qualifiers with his recent performances.
Nah Owen isn't overrated. He's lost a lot of pace for sure but when he was at his prime he was deadly. Him and David Thompson (whatever happened to him) were class acts for Liverpool. :yep:
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(Original post by FCUtdWill)
I like Heskey, he's a good player.

About Owen, I don't think he's overrated, he's not at his best following his injury and will only improve thus him going back into the England squad.

I am surprised too at Agbonlahor didn't get a mention after his opening-day hat-trick but isn't he in the under-21's?
Yeah but usually players from the under 21 squad who are good enough move up to the senior team or player for both, for example Rooney.

Don't get me wrong I think Owen is a good goal scorer, but he doesn't have the pace he used to have and people still seem to think he's miles in front of the other England strikers apart from Rooney.

Tbh, I think most of the England team are overrated though
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Since when was Rooney a striker?
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
Yeah but usually players from the under 21 squad who are good enough move up to the senior team or player for both, for example Rooney.

Don't get me wrong I think Owen is a good goal scorer, but he doesn't have the pace he used to have and people still seem to think he's miles in front of the other England strikers apart from Rooney.

Tbh, I think most of the England team are overrated though
I've never been a fan of Rooney myself, would have easily picked Owen ahead of him. That's the player who I think is overrated.

England are playing Kazakhstan and Belarus next (after tonight) so might be an opportunity for Agbonlahor to play for England if he does well until then. He looked impressive for his hat-trick, but he hasn't been at his best since then.
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(Original post by _MaLc_)
Since when was Rooney a striker?
Since he started his professional career.
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(Original post by _MaLc_)
Since when was Rooney a striker?
I'd be interested to hear what makes you think he isn't.
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(Original post by FCUtdWill)
I've never been a fan of Rooney myself, would have easily picked Owen ahead of him. That's the player who I think is overrated.

England are playing Kazakhstan and Belarus next (after tonight) so might be an opportunity for Agbonlahor to play for England if he does well until then. He looked impressive for his hat-trick, but he hasn't been at his best since then.
Yeah Rooney hasn't really performed for England lately. Although the same can be said for most of the squad, they play great for their clubs but not for their country.
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
Yeah Rooney hasn't really performed for England lately. Although the same can be said for most of the squad, they play great for their clubs but not for their country.
He started well at Man Utd (not a fan) with that hat-trick against Fenerbahce in the Champions League and I haven't seen a performance like that since he's being there (club performances only, I know he did well in the Euros).

Don't like the guy myself.
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(Original post by FCUtdWill)
He started well at Man Utd (not a fan) with that hat-trick against Fenerbahce in the Champions League and I haven't seen a performance like that since he's being there (club performances only, I know he did well in the Euros).

Don't like the guy myself.
I remember watching him in Euro 2004 and he played brilliantly, tearing past the defence and setting up goals. He seemed like in a few years he would be unstoppable, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
I remember watching him in Euro 2004 and he played brilliantly, tearing past the defence and setting up goals. He seemed like in a few years he would be unstoppable, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
He did play well until he got injured and we got eliminated (England's favourite word when it comes to international tournaments). I liked him at the time when he was good and now he just doesn't seem to score or do anything whatsoever.

I would like to see him be better in future, I might start liking him again but until then, I will continue to dislike him.
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(Original post by FCUtdWill)
He did play well until he got injured and we got eliminated (England's favourite word when it comes to international tournaments). I liked him at the time when he was good and now he just doesn't seem to score or do anything whatsoever.

I would like to see him be better in future, I might start liking him again but until then, I will continue to dislike him.
I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's lived up to expectations lol.
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's lived up to expectations lol.
Heskey is better than Rooney imo

(back on topic )
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(Original post by Ronaldo VII)
I'd be interested to hear what makes you think he isn't.
A Foward? Definately.
A Striker? Not s'much.

Hell, I reckon he'd make an excellent Attacking Midfielder as well. Comparing him with Michael Owen, either way, is something you most certainly don't do. Hence my question of: "Since when has he been a Striker?", since he's ****E at one on ones, doesn't take half his chances and would much rather pass the ball than take a shot.

EDIT: I'm a big fan of Rooney. But I'd rather see Voronin at the top of a 4-2-3-1.
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Heskey and Crouch = Best combo
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(Original post by v1oXx-)
Heskey and Crouch = Best combo
:yep:

Hope Capello makes it clear to Crouch though: 'You're paid to be on that pitch! so start using your ****ing legs! They can run, you lanky****!'.
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I can't understand why you think that. Is Owen rated more than 40 goals in 89 games?
Well Crouch has scored 14 in 28 games since 2005, but people don't rave on about him. :p:
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
Well Crouch has scored 14 in 28 games since 2005, but people don't rave on about him. :p:
That's because people are dumb. They prefer to scream about Wine Woony, with his goal in 2 years.
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(Original post by El Stevo)
That's because people are dumb. They prefer to scream about Wine Woony, with his goal in 2 years.
Yep. Crouch > Rooney for England.
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(Original post by _MaLc_)
A Foward? Definately.
A Striker? Not s'much.

Hell, I reckon he'd make an excellent Attacking Midfielder as well. Comparing him with Michael Owen, either way, is something you most certainly don't do. Hence my question of: "Since when has he been a Striker?", since he's ****E at one on ones, doesn't take half his chances and would much rather pass the ball than take a shot.

EDIT: I'm a big fan of Rooney. But I'd rather see Voronin at the top of a 4-2-3-1.
To be fair to Rooney before his injury he was excellent, and would take on an entire defence by his self at times. I think since moving to Manchester United Ferguson has tried to calm him down as well and make him more of a team player.
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(Original post by _Mazza_)
To be fair to Rooney before his injury he was excellent, and would take on an entire defence by his self at times. I think since moving to Manchester United Ferguson has tried to calm him down as well and make him more of a team player.
Ya' think? Even Rick Parry could have noticed that. He's an awful striker, end of. I reckon he should be given a shot in Midfield though :yep: In an attacking midfielder role, considering he's physically strong, fast and has vision better than most, I reckon he'd be pretty lethal.
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