Can I ask for a reference before I have written the personal statement

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So, I am doing my application process in UCAS now. I have asked one of my teachers to be my referee and they have agreed. But I don't have my final personal statement ready yet. So, I was wondering whether I can still get the reference from her and then add my personal statement, or it is necessary that I have the personal statement first? Will UCAS let me add the personal statement after the referece has been completed?

Thanks a lot!
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Hey there!
In my opinion it is better if start writing about your personal statement regarding the courses your interested more & I can help you with some tips to write your personal statement like what is your strong evidence to let you choose the course,how much your smart on your extracurricular activities, subjects that are helpful for your course...not only this but also how much your active on the subjects that are essential for your course.

Reference is simply sentence that reflects you more about your academics, extracurricular activities and any discipline focusing you. So, you can just start to write your personal statement while are discussing with your referee and your referee may also give some important ideas to begin and write your personal statement.

I hope it works for you I wish all the best with your application.

Thanks,👍
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The reference is added once you send it with your PS to your school (although they can send it back) - they can have your reference written before you submit though (and in fact, that would be the sensible thing to do)
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Most schools will want to do the final check on your entire application, add the reference and predictions, and send it off all in one go. You wont be able to read the reference, so I cant see any advantage in doing it that way round.

Just get the PS written, pay/send it and then the school can do their bit.
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(Original post by Arsine)
Hi!

So, I am doing my application process in UCAS now. I have asked one of my teachers to be my referee and they have agreed. But I don't have my final personal statement ready yet. So, I was wondering whether I can still get the reference from her and then add my personal statement, or it is necessary that I have the personal statement first? Will UCAS let me add the personal statement after the referece has been completed?

Thanks a lot!
That's not how it works - you need to add your PS then your school does the checking and adding of the reference.
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That's not how it works - you need to add your PS then your school does the checking and adding of the reference.
Thanks, but what if I am applying as an individual, not as a part my school?
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Thanks, but what if I am applying as an individual, not as a part my school?
Are you a student at a school at the moment?
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https://www.ucas.com/connect/blogs/a...0%93-how-apply

"There are a couple of ways to get a reference if you’re applying independently. If your previous school or college is happy to complete a reference, in the ‘Options’ section select ‘ask a registered school, college or centre to write a reference only’. This route needs a buzzword from the school or college – so you’d have to discuss it with them.

Alternatively, you can enter your referee’s contact details in the reference section. We’ll then send them an email with instructions on what to do. If you want to do this, make sure you ask your referee if they’ll be able to provide you with a reference before you send them a request. Once they’ve completed it, we’ll email you, and the reference section will be marked with a red tick."
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(Original post by Arsine)
Thanks, but what if I am applying as an individual, not as a part my school?
Ya I have also applied as individual to be honest I first complete my personal statement then I complete my reference.
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Ya I have also applied as individual to be honest I first complete my personal statement then I complete my reference.
You don't complete your reference ... read what I posted.
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Are you a student at a school at the moment?
Yes, I am.
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Yes, I am.
The school will expect you to apply through them ...
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https://www.ucas.com/connect/blogs/a...0%93-how-apply

"There are a couple of ways to get a reference if you’re applying independently. If your previous school or college is happy to complete a reference, in the ‘Options’ section select ‘ask a registered school, college or centre to write a reference only’. This route needs a buzzword from the school or college – so you’d have to discuss it with them.

Alternatively, you can enter your referee’s contact details in the reference section. We’ll then send them an email with instructions on what to do. If you want to do this, make sure you ask your referee if they’ll be able to provide you with a reference before you send them a request. Once they’ve completed it, we’ll email you, and the reference section will be marked with a red tick."
Thank you! That was what I was asking. So, if applying independently, I can still get my reference done through my referee, even if I haven't added the PS to the UCAS, and then add the Statement on my own pace.
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You don't complete your reference ... read what I posted.
clear sentence I am telling you abt my own application I submitted before some week.
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clear sentence I am telling you abt my own application I submitted before some week.
You cannot write your own reference which is what you implied
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You cannot write your own reference which is what you implied
pardon me, I didn't say I write My reference by myself I have a referee at My school who wrote for My reference.
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pardon me, I didn't say I write My reference by myself I have a referee at My school who wrote for My reference.
You said and I quote: "...then I complete my reference." .... that implies you wrote it
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(Original post by Mina Abdulkerim)
Hey there!
In my opinion it is better if start writing about your personal statement regarding the courses your interested more & I can help you with some tips to write your personal statement like what is your strong evidence to let you choose the course,how much your smart on your extracurricular activities, subjects that are helpful for your course...not only this but also how much your active on the subjects that are essential for your course.

Reference is simply sentence that reflects you more about your academics, extracurricular activities and any discipline focusing you. So,👉 you can just start to write your personal statement while are discussing with your referee 👈and your referee may also give some important ideas to begin and write your personal statement.

I hope it works for you I wish all the best with your application.

Thanks,👍

please read it carefully!!☝ I just put 👉👈 on the paragraph.
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You said and I quote: "...then I complete my reference." .... that implies you wrote it
please, you can write your ps by yourself and your referee will write your reference.okay!

It misunderstanding either me or you. if me am sorry🙏

Thanks,
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Alternatively, you can enter your referee’s contact details in the reference section. We’ll then send them an email with instructions on what to do. If you want to do this, make sure you ask your referee if they’ll be able to provide you with a reference before you send them a request. Once they’ve completed it, we’ll email you, and the reference section will be marked with a red tick."
Which parts of my application can my referee see please? (I'm a mature student, so not applying through school).
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