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I want to leave medicine I’m in my third year. I’ve lost passion for it and the thought of what is to be the end is not appealing.

I’m not sure what I want to do. The things I may consider are things I can never pursue due my culture and religion (it’s nothing immoral it’s just acting) and my other interests (marketing?) idek are not a proper option.

I’m scared because this is a big change and perhaps a great opportunity thrown away but I’m not happy.

To be honest, I’ve lost passion for everything. I don’t want to do anything.

I’m not sure what to do. I’ve always liked science but even now nothing seems appealing.

The other worry is what qualification can I leave with? I don’t want three years gone to waste, I know you can come out with a exit degree and need to talk to your uni to get it classified but just in case I’ve been considering intercalation and then leaving just to have a proper degree under my belt.

I’m not sure of anything at the moment. Any advice would be appreciated
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Its a tough situation man; the intercalation route sounds like the best option, you'll get a degree in a single year, and it may even be less frantic/stressful than a medicine year so you may have more time to enjoy things.

Losing passion for everything suggests you've lost your purposes, or you never had a strong "why" in the first place, or your just depressed. In the end, you a med student so your much brighter than me and most people in this forum and you have the wits to know yourself better than anyone, so to figure that out is up to you (and your god?)

Has this flatline just this year or been building upto the apex of this year? Because 2020 has been prety trash for everyone haha

I could go on. My suggesstion; stick with Medicine, pursue YouTube as a hobby. This way you get to help people as a doctor, whilst making content that YOU enjoy making, whilst being able to keep measures for your religion (e.g. Halal) which could otherwise be taken away from you by a director.
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Unless your parents are minted or you will marry somebody minted, you have to think about what is best for your future. Would you rather do acting/marketing and most likely be on a salary 3+ times lower than medicine? Is medicine that bad? Like there are so many routes for specialisation. It’s a tough world outside of Univeristy.
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If you are going to let your culture and religion dictate what you want to do in life, then you are part of the problem for simply letting it control you like this. So what if your culture and religion do not accept it? First of all, religion is a man-made ideology, and it always will be. I find it nonsensical that people that follow religion have the audacity to tell me a book from a few thousand years ago holds the answers to an ever-expanding universe, and that of 13.8 billion years of age. The only reason, for most people, that you follow this religion, whatever it may be, is because you were brought up to believe it. Guess what; this is the case with everyone that has a theistic upbringing. Nonetheless, not every religion is right, as they are all incompatible. This results in everyone believing that their beliefs are right, when in reality, none of them are, as religion is a false ideology. If your religion is preventing you from pursuing a career, then you have to question the worth of your religion. How is a book from a few thousand years ago dictating your life in the 21st century? The more I say, the more ridiculous religion sounds, and frankly, it is pathetic. As for your culture, you never chose your culture, and so if you need to cut off your family because you have your own desires, then simply do so. However, if you want them in your life, then you need to explain that this is what you wish to do, and if they choose to support you, then great. If not, do not bother trying to justify your change, as this is not needed. Why should you justify your choices to people who clearly want you to be in their image?

Get the intercalation degree and gain experience in the field you wish to pursue. Once you have the degree and the experience, look for jobs that will allow you to reflect your true desires.
tbh its not religion in my perspective, its culture and social expectations.. i just asked my mom for a gap year now, and it didn't go down well ( she thinks i would lose academic interest / end up working in a shop / occasional jabs that you are gonna ruin ur life ..) and now she wants me to write a personal statement for a course im not particularly interested in... im stuck smh my life. wish i had white parents, they would let me be..
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If you are going to let your culture and religion dictate what you want to do in life, then you are part of the problem for simply letting it control you like this. So what if your culture and religion do not accept it? First of all, religion is a man-made ideology, and it always will be. I find it nonsensical that people that follow religion have the audacity to tell me a book from a few thousand years ago holds the answers to an ever-expanding universe, and that of 13.8 billion years of age. The only reason, for most people, that you follow this religion, whatever it may be, is because you were brought up to believe it. Guess what; this is the case with everyone that has a theistic upbringing. Nonetheless, not every religion is right, as they are all incompatible. This results in everyone believing that their beliefs are right, when in reality, none of them are, as religion is a false ideology. If your religion is preventing you from pursuing a career, then you have to question the worth of your religion. How is a book from a few thousand years ago dictating your life in the 21st century? The more I say, the more ridiculous religion sounds, and frankly, it is pathetic. As for your culture, you never chose your culture, and so if you need to cut off your family because you have your own desires, then simply do so. However, if you want them in your life, then you need to explain that this is what you wish to do, and if they choose to support you, then great. If not, do not bother trying to justify your change, as this is not needed. Why should you justify your choices to people who clearly want you to be in their image?

Get the intercalation degree and gain experience in the field you wish to pursue. Once you have the degree and the experience, look for jobs that will allow you to reflect your true desires.
Not all religions are man made. Also if you follow your desires for everything, you are no different to a wild animal. Honestly you are deluded if you think everything came from nowhere and there is nothing after death.
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tbh its not religion in my perspective, its culture and social expectations.. i just asked my mom for a gap year now, and it didn't go down well ( she thinks i would lose academic interest / end up working in a shop / occasional jabs that you are gonna ruin ur life ..) and now she wants me to write a personal statement for a course im not particularly interested in... im stuck smh my life. wish i had white parents, they would let me be..
your parents are just like mine
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your parents are just like mine
damn wanna talk here? im literally feeling helpless atm lol. they aren't bad, but bruh the pressure right now...
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I want to leave medicine I’m in my third year. I’ve lost passion for it and the thought of what is to be the end is not appealing.

I’m not sure what I want to do. The things I may consider are things I can never pursue due my culture and religion (it’s nothing immoral it’s just acting) and my other interests (marketing?) idek are not a proper option.

I’m scared because this is a big change and perhaps a great opportunity thrown away but I’m not happy.

To be honest, I’ve lost passion for everything. I don’t want to do anything.

I’m not sure what to do. I’ve always liked science but even now nothing seems appealing.

The other worry is what qualification can I leave with? I don’t want three years gone to waste, I know you can come out with a exit degree and need to talk to your uni to get it classified but just in case I’ve been considering intercalation and then leaving just to have a proper degree under my belt.

I’m not sure of anything at the moment. Any advice would be appreciated
I feel sorry for you, I truly do. However, I think you should finish your degree. What you need right now is independence, a break won't do because the problems will keep coming back regarding your family and religion. You are a smart individual, you need to realise that you cannot live by what others tell you all the time. You will make mistakes in doing so but what you need to do is PLAN. Plan ahead, think about the possibilities, and talk to people who will listen and keep things confidential. I do think, you should finish what you have started but you need independence. When can you be yourself if you listen to other people's opinions? Also, you will not be happy in marketing or acting if you think about others, so my advice is to finish the degree but plan the other creative things you want to do with your life. You are almost there. Why did you want to be a doctor, to begin with? People, especially medical students do lose motivation at some point in their life. Only you have the ability to overcome the problems in your life.
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Unless your parents are minted or you will marry somebody minted, you have to think about what is best for your future. Would you rather do acting/marketing and most likely be on a salary 3+ times lower than medicine? Is medicine that bad? Like there are so many routes for specialisation. It’s a tough world outside of Univeristy.
Medicine is only lucrative after 5-10 years of specialising in a field, and by then, a lot of top marketers would have already been on a higher salary for years.
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tbh its not religion in my perspective, its culture and social expectations.. i just asked my mom for a gap year now, and it didn't go down well ( she thinks i would lose academic interest / end up working in a shop / occasional jabs that you are gonna ruin ur life ..) and now she wants me to write a personal statement for a course im not particularly interested in... im stuck smh my life. wish i had white parents, they would let me be..
Then simply cut contact. You said you are 3 years into university, and so why not move into student accommodation? If your parents are degrading your psychological well-being, then there is no reason to have them in your life. Remember, just because someone is related to you, no matter how close they are, it does not mean you have to have them in your life.
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Then simply cut contact. You said you are 3 years into university, and so why not move into student accommodation? If your parents are degrading your psychological well-being, then there is no reason to have them in your life. Remember, just because someone is related to you, no matter how close they are, it does not mean you have to have them in your life.
Anonymous 3 and OP (anonymous 1) aren't the same person ....
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ecolier to inject some wisdom and guidance.
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Not all religions are man made. Also if you follow your desires for everything, you are no different to a wild animal. Honestly you are deluded if you think everything came from nowhere and there is nothing after death.
All religions are man-made. I would like you to prove otherwise. Furthermore, you are taking the idea of what I said about desires out of context. By desires in the context of the OP, I meant the desire to pursue marketing and not medicine. Do not take what I say out of context to simply fit your personal agenda, as this is deceptive and ultimately untrue. What inclined you to believe that I think everything came from nothing? I believe the universe began with the Big Bang theory, and there is enough science to suggest so. How did the Big Bang theory start? Science has not figured that out yet, and I am happy to concede this point. However, I find it nonsensical that theists think that just because science is unable to prove something, it means religion is able to clog up that gap. If science cannot prove something, then I struggle to believe how religion can even be considered to suggest an answer. As for there being nothing after death, what makes you think there is something after death? Again, science has not got to that point yet, and I am happy to concede that point. It is ignorant theists that believe religion can filter in the gaps that science is unable to answer yet.
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Anonymous 3 and OP (anonymous 1) aren't the same person....
Oh, so then in that case, I condede the point I made to anonymous 3 and forward it to anonymous 1. I hope he sees what I wrote and thus acknowledges that it was meant for him.
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I want to leave medicine I’m in my third year. I’ve lost passion for it and the thought of what is to be the end is not appealing.

I’m not sure what I want to do. The things I may consider are things I can never pursue due my culture and religion (it’s nothing immoral it’s just acting) and my other interests (marketing?) idek are not a proper option.

I’m scared because this is a big change and perhaps a great opportunity thrown away but I’m not happy.

To be honest, I’ve lost passion for everything. I don’t want to do anything.

I’m not sure what to do. I’ve always liked science but even now nothing seems appealing.

The other worry is what qualification can I leave with? I don’t want three years gone to waste, I know you can come out with a exit degree and need to talk to your uni to get it classified but just in case I’ve been considering intercalation and then leaving just to have a proper degree under my belt.

I’m not sure of anything at the moment. Any advice would be appreciated
I would advice speaking with your tutor about this, because medicine is such a demanding subject/career choice. At the end of the day, it is better to leave as soon as possible as opposed to continue doing it and to then hate your career. But first talk to someone, maybe someone in 4th year.
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Thank you for your replies.

I’m still quite lost and unsure what to do. I do think 2020 has an impact on me. I went into medicine because, classic, helping others and it’s academic side appealed to me, at the time it was the only career I saw myself doing and being at peace with on my deathbed. It has a lot of purpose.

However I do think ambition and goals and high expectations played a lot into this and now that stuff doesn’t matter much anymore Life has become so dull

My mental healthy had dipped so badly, I honestly cannot find any happiness in anything. Even those interests I listed I only liked bc they made me feel soemthibg, they are thinks I like spending time doing but idk if. I would want it as a career.

I also think I have become more money driven too and have been thinking about starting my own business, you can see how pretty lost I am :/
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Thank you for your replies.

I’m still quite lost and unsure what to do. I do think 2020 has an impact on me. I went into medicine because, classic, helping others and it’s academic side appealed to me, at the time it was the only career I saw myself doing and being at peace with on my deathbed. It has a lot of purpose.

However I do think ambition and goals and high expectations played a lot into this and now that stuff doesn’t matter much anymore Life has become so dull

My mental healthy had dipped so badly, I honestly cannot find any happiness in anything. Even those interests I listed I only liked bc they made me feel soemthibg, they are thinks I like spending time doing but idk if. I would want it as a career.

I also think I have become more money driven too and have been thinking about starting my own business, you can see how pretty lost I am :/
If mental health is the concern I'm not sure what leaving your degree is going to accomplish. Some more information would help here.

What are you not enjoying about the course and what are you hoping to gain (or re-gain) in another degree?

Life is indescribably dull and unsatisfying for pretty much everyone at the moment - doctors and non-doctors alike - but the Covid-19 pandemic is (hopefully) going to be a temporary event relative to the rest of your life. I would be careful about making long term decisions based on what things are like right now.

The one thing you can say about a career in medicine is that it's pretty much pandemic-proof. I'm not sure that's true for office jobs like marketing or a career in the arts e.g. acting. Of course, this doesn't mean you should stay in medicine if it's not right for you, but it's perhaps worth thinking about if, on further reflection, your feelings are based on "grass is greener" syndrome.

It's fine to be fed up of how things are just now. It's ****.
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If you can qualify and then leave at that point then you will be in a good position with respect to careers.
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I want to leave medicine I’m in my third year. I’ve lost passion for it and the thought of what is to be the end is not appealing.

I’m not sure what I want to do. The things I may consider are things I can never pursue due my culture and religion (it’s nothing immoral it’s just acting) and my other interests (marketing?) idek are not a proper option.

I’m scared because this is a big change and perhaps a great opportunity thrown away but I’m not happy.

To be honest, I’ve lost passion for everything. I don’t want to do anything.

I’m not sure what to do. I’ve always liked science but even now nothing seems appealing.

The other worry is what qualification can I leave with? I don’t want three years gone to waste, I know you can come out with a exit degree and need to talk to your uni to get it classified but just in case I’ve been considering intercalation and then leaving just to have a proper degree under my belt.

I’m not sure of anything at the moment. Any advice would be appreciated
As someone with experience of both Medicine and professional performing, I would encourage you to keep pursuing Medicine for the stability of the career and the high value of a medical degree in other fields should you choose to leave. As you mention culture and religion are barriers to you being able to pursue acting and/or marketing, I'm gonna take a guess that you're South Asian but correct me if I'm wrong. You've probably learned by now, most parents won't take you seriously while you're still a student. You only earn their respect (and hence their support of your career choices) once you've earned the degree in something they agree with. It sounds like your parents agree with Medicine, not acting, so they will only support you to pursue acting once you've graduated in Medicine, as opposed to you leaving early with a degree in something else. I hope that makes sense?

I didn't lose any motivation for Medicine but I've been in the position before of having to consider the career options for switching to another degree, looking at things I had a little bit of interest in and also things I had completely no interest in. It wasn't nice at all and it's not something I would encourage you to do voluntarily so don't put yourself in that position. To me this sounds like you're struggling with identity and motivation as nothing seems appealing to you. It's difficult enough being a medical student and having to fight every day to keep your place at medical school, but it's been even harder on mental health for everyone recently with COVID disruption. I would encourage you to take some time to unwind, do something to take your mind off the stress of Medicine, maybe take a year out to get back into the right frame of mind if you need to.

I don't know about marketing, but performing arts (especially acting) is low-paid, inconsistent and unstable work when you're just starting out, so you need a main job with flexible work that you can use to make ends meet and fit auditions around. All the actors and dancers I work with on film projects have trained at performing arts schools (or started performing straight out of school) but they have main jobs such as bartending, waiting tables, working in shops etc. They live at home with their families in London so they have no overhead costs, but they don't save much money month to month. That can be extra stressful and another burden on your mental health on top of going to auditions. Not every audition will be successful - inevitably you will end up taking rejection and losing paid work. On top of that, see how COVID has torpedoed much of the performing arts and gig industries as well as restaurants cutting hours, making lots of staff redundant - it isn't a good time right now to leave something as stable and secure as Medicine. If you had the support and agreement of your parents, I might suggest you look into other avenues such as leaving after you intercalate, but as I've had a lot of similar experiences to you, I would encourage you to stay in Medicine. You've worked so hard up to this point and you agree you don't want to see the years of work go to waste. Most medical schools nowadays give unclassified degrees or (worse), nothing at all if you leave early. You may not be aware but there are many specialties in Medicine that offer the same level of flexibility as unskilled work but are much better paid (GP comes to mind), allowing you to go for auditions without worrying about money or the added pressure to succeed at getting that role because you're depending on it for pay.
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