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DWP EO Work Coach Application - FAIL!

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Reply 20

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by WTF?!
I've put 3 months of my life into preparing for and applying for one of the DWP Work Coach roles.

I took courses in my own time to gain City&Guilds qualifications in Business Admin, Customer Service and Employability. These were run by the DWP themselves as they were apparently required by the DWP for this specific role.

The employability course was entirely centred on the actual DWP EO Work Coach role and covered everything from mock Situational Judgement Tests, speaking to existing Work Coaches and nailing the Behaviours and Strengths required (Communicating & Influencing, Making Effective Decisions & Managing A Quality Service).

You would think after all this preparation at least an interview would be a given. But no, after a month of 'Thank you for your application. It will be reviewed' I was told yesterday thanks but no. No interview, no feedback, no nothing! 😮

So they took a month, with me checking several times a day, to finally let me know this!

Now here's the thing. The DWP make a big deal about inclusivity and diversity, and that's great, but, after speaking to my course tutor, out of the 20 students to take the above courses, the only ones who got an interview were:

- An Indian Lady
- A Black Man
- A Disabled Woman

Now, I'm all for equality but seriously?! How is that fair? That's just coincidence is it?

The answer is no, it's no coincidence because part of the application process asks some very personal questions including:

- Ethnicity
- Gender
- Disabilities
- Sexual Orientation
- Religious Beliefs
- Did you have free school meals?
- What did your father do when you were 14?
- Do you consider yourself to be from a low social economic class?

So it would appear your CV, skills, qualifications, finely tuned behaviour statements, etc. all mean absolutely nothing if you don't tick at least one of the above boxes so the DWP can fill their diverse workforce quota. And it stinks! 😠

I just wanted to point out the sifters do not see any personal info about you not even your name. Only your examples, I know this as I have done sifting, interviewing for CS before

Reply 21

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by WTF?!
Sorry to break this to you but the SJT was passed. 500 word Communicating & Influencing statement was checked prior to submission by actual DWP Work Coach and Tutor and hit all 7 behaviours and 5 strengths in the STAR format so that argument just doesn't wash.

And yes, since I passed the SJT and Behaviour statement, I did expect an interview. Why would I not? What else did they have to make a decision on if not those?

Hmmmm, I wonder... 🙄


I'm so sorry. Most work coaches I've spoken to have applied about 3 times before getting through. There's another cut-off this evening, jump in one more time, what have you got to lose? If it's any consolation, I think that 'Employability' course, (mine was run by Strive for the DWP) was a total waste of 5 days of my life. The SJT examples they use are out of date, not even the current format, they had everyone rehearsing 2 min interview answers on all topics, and I find out now that some areas are 3 mins - how they get paid to run that course is beyond me.

Chin up, it's not all wasted, you've learned from it, keep banging on the doors until one opens. I know it's super hard.

Reply 22

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by WTF?!
I've put 3 months of my life into preparing for and applying for one of the DWP Work Coach roles.

I took courses in my own time to gain City&Guilds qualifications in Business Admin, Customer Service and Employability. These were run by the DWP themselves as they were apparently required by the DWP for this specific role.

The employability course was entirely centred on the actual DWP EO Work Coach role and covered everything from mock Situational Judgement Tests, speaking to existing Work Coaches and nailing the Behaviours and Strengths required (Communicating & Influencing, Making Effective Decisions & Managing A Quality Service).

You would think after all this preparation at least an interview would be a given. But no, after a month of 'Thank you for your application. It will be reviewed' I was told yesterday thanks but no. No interview, no feedback, no nothing! 😮

So they took a month, with me checking several times a day, to finally let me know this!

Now here's the thing. The DWP make a big deal about inclusivity and diversity, and that's great, but, after speaking to my course tutor, out of the 20 students to take the above courses, the only ones who got an interview were:

- An Indian Lady
- A Black Man
- A Disabled Woman

Now, I'm all for equality but seriously?! How is that fair? That's just coincidence is it?

The answer is no, it's no coincidence because part of the application process asks some very personal questions including:

- Ethnicity
- Gender
- Disabilities
- Sexual Orientation
- Religious Beliefs
- Did you have free school meals?
- What did your father do when you were 14?
- Do you consider yourself to be from a low social economic class?

So it would appear your CV, skills, qualifications, finely tuned behaviour statements, etc. all mean absolutely nothing if you don't tick at least one of the above boxes so the DWP can fill their diverse workforce quota. And it stinks! 😠

You obviously haven't applied for many jobs lol. EVERY job nowadays asks those questions and they make it clear that you don't have to answer them, as it has no effect on the outcome of your application. You haven't been rejected because of your skin colour/ orientation etc. You have been rejected because you simply are not good enough. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but it's the truth. I've seen people like you: often unwilling to accept their shortcomings and taking the easy route to blame failure on others. Take responsibility and be better. You are pathetic.

Reply 23

Ok i'll state the obvious, critical thinking is not your strong point. After all you still assume that a City and Guilds qual makes you a shoo in for roles recruited in fair and open (national) competition against much more able candidates. Lol! Also judging by your verbal reasoning skills it's no surprise you required coaching to fill in a fairly straight forward civil service application form and still failed.

Blame minorities for your failure to make the grade if you prefer to live in a bubble. But here's a reality check. When you apply to the CS you might come up against a BAME candidate like me. One who achieved the top score of all candidates in the recruitment cycle for my position. Your reverse discrimination diatribe is dire. If you want to talk equal ops with me get a Ph.D first, fall in the 93 percentile range on aptitude tests, then we can start there.

Reply 24

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by James21234
Guys i need help with 500 words statement.. i have been banging my head against a wall trying to get it right but one way or the other i am unable to get it right.. people that have succceded.. is anyone willing to share their 500 words statement as an example? if not, i welcome any help. thank you

Hi, have a look at my thread and ask any q's that it doesn't answer

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6896152&p=93531820&page=2#post93531820

Reply 25

Original post
by WTF?!
I've put 3 months of my life into preparing for and applying for one of the DWP Work Coach roles.

I took courses in my own time to gain City&Guilds qualifications in Business Admin, Customer Service and Employability. These were run by the DWP themselves as they were apparently required by the DWP for this specific role.

The employability course was entirely centred on the actual DWP EO Work Coach role and covered everything from mock Situational Judgement Tests, speaking to existing Work Coaches and nailing the Behaviours and Strengths required (Communicating & Influencing, Making Effective Decisions & Managing A Quality Service).

You would think after all this preparation at least an interview would be a given. But no, after a month of 'Thank you for your application. It will be reviewed' I was told yesterday thanks but no. No interview, no feedback, no nothing! 😮

So they took a month, with me checking several times a day, to finally let me know this!

Now here's the thing. The DWP make a big deal about inclusivity and diversity, and that's great, but, after speaking to my course tutor, out of the 20 students to take the above courses, the only ones who got an interview were:

- An Indian Lady
- A Black Man
- A Disabled Woman

Now, I'm all for equality but seriously?! How is that fair? That's just coincidence is it?

The answer is no, it's no coincidence because part of the application process asks some very personal questions including:

- Ethnicity
- Gender
- Disabilities
- Sexual Orientation
- Religious Beliefs
- Did you have free school meals?
- What did your father do when you were 14?
- Do you consider yourself to be from a low social economic class?

So it would appear your CV, skills, qualifications, finely tuned behaviour statements, etc. all mean absolutely nothing if you don't tick at least one of the above boxes so the DWP can fill their diverse workforce quota. And it stinks! 😠


Sorry, I don't have time to scroll through all the responses, many of which are accurate and point you in the right direction. What I can confirm is that applications are sifted 'blind' and the person receiving your written submission will get that by e mail, along with many others, and it will have no identifying features. It will just be your words pasted onto a blank sheet, so there is no discrimination whatsoever.
On these WC campaigns, the process is as follows:
Submit 500 words
Do SJT
If pass SJT, the 500 words will be marked
If you score high enough, you will be invited to interview

To 'pass' you have to score 4 or more and they will draw the line somewhere, so 7/6 will most likely get interviews, probably the 5's, not necessarily the 4's. On a recent SEO vacancy, they only interviewed people who scored 7 at sift.
If you'd really like feedback on your 500 words, please feel free to send your statement to me by PM and I will gladly look.
Sadly, though all of the study you did will help in some way, it did not ht the mark for this campaign, however multiple campaigns since then so hopefully yo applied again and have been successful

Reply 26

Wow there is a lot of waffling in this thread. Good grief grown men? Arguing? ...@WTF?! There are plenty of jobs just keep trying.


I am a Muslim, female pakistani woman. Who suffers from mental health issues. (That I believe they did not know as I chose not to opt for guaranteed interview scheme).

I went to Uni, studied law did not complete it.
Did 2 months work exp with learn direct.
Some exp with online gaming communities.
Worked in retail, primark, M&S. primark fired me after MH situation. I left m&s due to health and safety issues which caused illhealth/more MH issues.

I have not worked since 2018/2019 I am on limited capability for work. On UC for 4 years. I have very few training/prev work experience I would say.

I did the SJT, did the 500 words passed both. I got a video interview. Which I did and don’t believe I did well on /or amazing. I did ofc use STAR. And experience from all of above including uni. I.e. mooting.

They asked for pre-employment checks, was then declined; but told I would be on a waiting list; tried to get my results, but pre-employment checks ongoing. Next day I got a call saying I was being offered a job. ....

Cannot be sure how or why, but I presume I did very well on the sjt 500 words application assessment interview and was high on the 6 months waiting list. +. My area needs more work coaches. With a possible third site opening (This is a important one (if they need people in that area)-... so) I only put down 2 places to work.

Anyways I start Monday. Alhamdullilah.
Training that is. Still conditional offer awaiting pre-employment checks completion.

(Off-topic: does anyone know the dress code for training/induction/orientation - not even received a call from line manager yet? Is that normal?) @SharonMoxon @Anisablue just curious.

Anyways for OP; it might actually be the case that they want to fill a quota.. but my area is highly multi-cultural tbh. Most my advisors were BAME. A lot of advisors are older.. so they may be trying to get younger people in.

It could be that you were good, but other people did much better? Did they offer a 6 months waiting list? Perhaps they felt you asked too much help from the training they offered rather than being the leader role they require?

Only throwing suggestions out don’t mean to offend.

I do find some of the questions they ask regarding poverty odd, but I believe that is to understand inequalitities in applicants.

I was advised by my first ever few advisors at UC to apply to civil service. Everytime I went on the website it was a confusing mess (personally) and felt like they ask too much. So since this new drive/new Campaign it is being made even easier for people like me that may struggle to apply normally. Atleast it feels that way. So just, because minorities or disabled people have the job you shouldn’t feel neglected.

Reply 27

Well done on getting the post. From previous threads contact from manager is very last minute so prob be tommorrow . Dress code- smart casual

Reply 28

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by SubziiFar
Wow there is a lot of waffling in this thread. Good grief grown men? Arguing? ...@WTF?! There are plenty of jobs just keep trying.


I am a Muslim, female pakistani woman. Who suffers from mental health issues. (That I believe they did not know as I chose not to opt for guaranteed interview scheme).

I went to Uni, studied law did not complete it.
Did 2 months work exp with learn direct.
Some exp with online gaming communities.
Worked in retail, primark, M&S. primark fired me after MH situation. I left m&s due to health and safety issues which caused illhealth/more MH issues.

I have not worked since 2018/2019 I am on limited capability for work. On UC for 4 years. I have very few training/prev work experience I would say.

I did the SJT, did the 500 words passed both. I got a video interview. Which I did and don’t believe I did well on /or amazing. I did ofc use STAR. And experience from all of above including uni. I.e. mooting.

They asked for pre-employment checks, was then declined; but told I would be on a waiting list; tried to get my results, but pre-employment checks ongoing. Next day I got a call saying I was being offered a job. ....

Cannot be sure how or why, but I presume I did very well on the sjt 500 words application assessment interview and was high on the 6 months waiting list. +. My area needs more work coaches. With a possible third site opening (This is a important one (if they need people in that area)-... so) I only put down 2 places to work.

Anyways I start Monday. Alhamdullilah.
Training that is. Still conditional offer awaiting pre-employment checks completion.

(Off-topic: does anyone know the dress code for training/induction/orientation - not even received a call from line manager yet? Is that normal?) @SharonMoxon @Anisablue just curious.

Anyways for OP; it might actually be the case that they want to fill a quota.. but my area is highly multi-cultural tbh. Most my advisors were BAME. A lot of advisors are older.. so they may be trying to get younger people in.

It could be that you were good, but other people did much better? Did they offer a 6 months waiting list? Perhaps they felt you asked too much help from the training they offered rather than being the leader role they require?

Only throwing suggestions out don’t mean to offend.

I do find some of the questions they ask regarding poverty odd, but I believe that is to understand inequalitities in applicants.

I was advised by my first ever few advisors at UC to apply to civil service. Everytime I went on the website it was a confusing mess (personally) and felt like they ask too much. So since this new drive/new Campaign it is being made even easier for people like me that may struggle to apply normally. Atleast it feels that way. So just, because minorities or disabled people have the job you shouldn’t feel neglected.

Amazing well done you! What area/town was this for?

Reply 29

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by sienna3
Amazing well done you! What area/town was this for?

East London.

Reply 30

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by Teddybear17
Couple of points......

You would have either failed on your reasoning tests or the behaviour statements, did you get your statements checked for STAR before submitting your application?

Secondly, the CS is for most a tough to get into but once your in your in.

Thirdly, there is a need for diversity within the CS because it just ain't diverse enough.

It seems to me there was an expectation you would get an interview and its beyond my why you even would with that attitude.


The whole process and interview was incredibly easy out of 1-5 where 1= easy and 5= difficult I would rate it at 1 compared to other processes I’ve done before.

Reply 31

I don’t want to sound rude but stop blaming process and try to think what you could work on... what could you improve about your application...

I am white, straight, no disability and I am not from low social background... and still passed all three stages and currently in process of ID check ... and I didn’t do any training courses or so ... literally applied for a role 4 hours before closing time... don’t get me wrong, I still may end up on reserve list.. but I would definitely say I am more humble than you ... I thought my statement was good, however I felt like I failed test and interview (especially interview)... maybe they thought your statement wasn’t strong enough ... or maybe it was too strong ... also don’t forget, just because your coach checked it over and approved it that doesn’t mean the person who was sifting applications had the same opinion as your coach :wink:

Reply 32

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by MeMeMe2021
I don’t want to sound rude but stop blaming process and try to think what you could work on... what could you improve about your application...

I am white, straight, no disability and I am not from low social background... and still passed all three stages and currently in process of ID check ... and I didn’t do any training courses or so ... literally applied for a role 4 hours before closing time... don’t get me wrong, I still may end up on reserve list.. but I would definitely say I am more humble than you ... I thought my statement was good, however I felt like I failed test and interview (especially interview)... maybe they thought your statement wasn’t strong enough ... or maybe it was too strong ... also don’t forget, just because your coach checked it over and approved it that doesn’t mean the person who was sifting applications had the same opinion as your coach :wink:

Absolutely right, couldn't agree more. Like it or not, your application was not up to scratch @wtf?!, so this is good advice. Work Coaches per se wil often not have any specialist knowledge of Success Profiles, unless they have studied it and been trained to interview-I have and regularly interview along with internal mentoring for progression.
If you'd like me to take a general look, please send it to me by DM
(edited 4 years ago)

Reply 33

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by SharonMoxon
Absolutely right, couldn't agree more. Like it or not, your application was not up to scratch @wtf!, so this is good advice. Work Coaches per se wil often not have any specialist knowledge of Success Profiles, unless they have studied it and been trained to interview-I have and regularly interview along with internal mentoring for progression.
If you'd like me to take a general look, please send it to me by DM

Still waiting to hear from you @WTF?!

Reply 34

Hi all, just a quick one.

I’m applying for the Dwp work coach position and I’ve done my 500 words and was just wondering if anyone who has been successful in this process (or similar role within Dwp with same criteria) would look over what I’ve written. Would really love some feedback and guidance. Please pm me and I can send it over! Thanks for your time. Take care all!

Reply 35

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by Nxzx
Hi all, just a quick one.

I’m applying for the Dwp work coach position and I’ve done my 500 words and was just wondering if anyone who has been successful in this process (or similar role within Dwp with same criteria) would look over what I’ve written. Would really love some feedback and guidance. Please pm me and I can send it over! Thanks for your time. Take care all!

Just replied to you on another thread

Reply 36

Congratulations on getting the Job, It would be so helpful to myself if you were able to tell me how long you waited after doing your interview to get any feedback. I submitted my application, did the SJT passed it and was invited for the interview in a space of two days. Now I’m nervously waiting on the outcome of the interview, I feel like I totally messed it up, I don’t know what happened I felt like my mind went blank lol.Did you have a really good interview? I mean did u initially feel like it went well? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Reply 37

Hi there, I haven’t actually done my interview yet, I’ve received the invite but wanted to spend a day prepping for it. So I will update you once I do! I had the same time frame though - passed the SJT and was invited for interview within a few hours. I’m worried about the time frame too. All the posts on here vary so much, I’m worried if I do pass I’ll go straight onto the reserve list! I’m gonna have to stick up prompts behind my laptop to avoid that because I had a different interview today and I forgot the word agitated lol! Can I ask what questions you were asked for making effective decisions, I feel like that’s gonna be where I struggle! Hopefully you hear back soon! Wish you the best of luck!

Reply 38

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by Nxzx
Hi there, I haven’t actually done my interview yet, I’ve received the invite but wanted to spend a day prepping for it. So I will update you once I do! I had the same time frame though - passed the SJT and was invited for interview within a few hours. I’m worried about the time frame too. All the posts on here vary so much, I’m worried if I do pass I’ll go straight onto the reserve list! I’m gonna have to stick up prompts behind my laptop to avoid that because I had a different interview today and I forgot the word agitated lol! Can I ask what questions you were asked for making effective decisions, I feel like that’s gonna be where I struggle! Hopefully you hear back soon! Wish you the best of luck!

Making Effective decisions
On this one, they want to hear about what you considered, what options you rejected and why (this is typically around cost/time (including staff resource), quality, reputational damage), then what you did decide on and why. Ensure you show balancing risks/benefits, then outcome

Reply 39

This is one of the most self-entitled posts I've ever read. Your attitude is appualing. When you apply for a job, you should never have any expectations. The ONLY person you should blame for failing is yourself. No one else is responsible for it. From your attitude alone, it sounds like you wouldn't be a good fit for the role anyway. God help any employers who hire you in the future.

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