applying for Computer Science at Oxford without Further mathematics

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I want to study Computer Science at Oxford, but no school in my country teaches A2 mathematics let alone A Level further mathematics. I'm currently in year 12 and I'm taking Maths, Computer Science and Physics for AS. Do you recommend that I also self-study further maths AS or maths A2 this year (in year 12) and do A Level further maths next year (year 13)? Or should I just stick to Maths, Computer Science and Physics AS, and prepare for A2 in all three of them next year (year 13)?
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Further maths would be useful, compsci is very competitive
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Further maths would be useful, compsci is very competitive
what do you mean by very competitive?
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what do you mean by very competitive?
There are way more applicants than places so universities tend to be picky about who gets the place. They want the ‘best’ students.
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There are way more applicants than places so universities tend to be picky about who gets the place. They want the ‘best’ students.
So what do you think should I study
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So what do you think should I study
Further Maths is recommended but bear in mind mostly all applicants will have Further Maths, especially since they are applying to Oxford.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/unde...mputer-science

I'm not going to advise you against applying for Computer Science at Oxford but be prepared for a rejection since they will obviously want someone who meets the requirements.

Do you recommend that I also self-study further maths AS or maths A2 this year (in year 12) and do A Level further maths next year (year 13)?
Most students complete A-Level Maths in one year and prepare for Further Maths in year 13. If you are quite confident in Maths, this won't be as daunting as it sounds.

Or should I just stick to Maths, Computer Science and Physics AS, and prepare for A2 in all three of them next year (year 13)?
You could do this and perhaps apply to a university that doesn't require Further Maths? In the end, getting a rejection from Oxford isn't the end of the world and there are plenty of 'good' universities that will take you.

https://www.ucas.com/explore/subjects/computer-science


Which country are you in, may I ask, that doesn't teach Further Maths?
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Why are you doing A-Levels as opposed to your local qualifications/IB if subjects have such low availability?
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I agree with 5hyl33n
Do Further Maths, it sounds daunting, but maybe you could really push in your free periods to complete normal maths (or at least AS) in year 12.
Then do further maths self-study in year 13, asking teachers for help.
The Further Maths Support Programme will help you.

But as 5hyl33n said, other universities won't require FM and so you can just stick with your 3 A-levels
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(Original post by 5hyl33n)
Further Maths is recommended but bear in mind mostly all applicants will have Further Maths, especially since they are applying to Oxford.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/unde...mputer-science

I'm not going to advise you against applying for Computer Science at Oxford but be prepared for a rejection since they will obviously want someone who meets the requirements.

Do you recommend that I also self-study further maths AS or maths A2 this year (in year 12) and do A Level further maths next year (year 13)?
Most students complete A-Level Maths in one year and prepare for Further Maths in year 13. If you are quite confident in Maths, this won't be as daunting as it sounds.

Or should I just stick to Maths, Computer Science and Physics AS, and prepare for A2 in all three of them next year (year 13)?
You could do this and perhaps apply to a university that doesn't require Further Maths? In the end, getting a rejection from Oxford isn't the end of the world and there are plenty of 'good' universities that will take you.

https://www.ucas.com/explore/subjects/computer-science


Which country are you in, may I ask, that doesn't teach Further Maths?
They said that it's recommended and not required.
I found this:
''we understand that not all schools offer Further Maths, and so we do consider applications from people with a single Maths A-level, with or without Further Maths to AS-level.''
on: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/admissions/u...al_offers.html (their site)

and this:
''Not all schools offer Further Maths and typically about one third of our students will not have taken it as an A Level."
on: https://www.admissions.eng.cam.ac.uk/faqs (cambridge's website)

So I'm confused right now.

Which country are you in, may I ask, that doesn't teach Further Maths?
I'm in Syria.
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I agree with 5hyl33n
Do Further Maths, it sounds daunting, but maybe you could really push in your free periods to complete normal maths (or at least AS) in year 12.
Then do further maths self-study in year 13, asking teachers for help.
The Further Maths Support Programme will help you.

But as 5hyl33n said, other universities won't require FM and so you can just stick with your 3 A-levels
Please see my reply to @5hyl33n
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Please see my reply to @5hyl33n
Yes your right it's not required but recommended
Your excuse for not taking further maths is legitimate since people who don't do it at schools which offer it are disadvantaged.
This does mean though that you will have to do well on MAT and interviews:
I would consider an AS in at least, and then if you don't get in, the full A-level over your gap year.
It's your choice, i would speak to your careers school advisor first.
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They said that it's recommended and not required.
I found this:
''we understand that not all schools offer Further Maths, and so we do consider applications from people with a single Maths A-level, with or without Further Maths to AS-level.''
on: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/admissions/u...al_offers.html (their site)

and this:
''Not all schools offer Further Maths and typically about one third of our students will not have taken it as an A Level."
on: https://www.admissions.eng.cam.ac.uk/faqs (cambridge's website)

So I'm confused right now.

Which country are you in, may I ask, that doesn't teach Further Maths?
I'm in Syria.
You are correct, it does say that. I’m only advising doing Further Maths just to make life easier, although they will definitely support you given your circumstances.

Here is a link to the MAT. As you can see they don’t require Further Maths knowledge.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/unde...ord/tests/mat#

I would say given your circumstances, don’t try and teach Further Maths yourself unless you feel there are enough resources to aid you. Good luck with your application.
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