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So from what I can gather London is a very sought after area after graduating medical school and going onto be a foundation year doctor. I'm not in medical school but I am intrigued to why many people are wanting to go there when it's more expensive to live and a few other problems associated with London.

Is it because of better opportunities, more money or what?
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(Original post by Novichok)
So from what I can gather London is a very sought after area after graduating medical school and going onto be a foundation year doctor. I'm not in medical school but I am intrigued to why many people are wanting to go there when it's more expensive to live and a few other problems associated with London.

Is it because of better opportunities, more money or what?
Not enough places.

There is a "London weighting", but it is pitifully inadequate (something like £2162 per year, after NI, tax and pensions works out to be like £120, £150 per month or something) that it's insignificant.

Obviously there are also loads of specialist hospitals concentrated within the M25, so it would be better to network and make connections if that's what you want to do.

Otherwise, the pay is the same wherever you work - whether it's affluent South East England, or deprived Teesside / Staffordshire.
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I think London is just seen as an attractive place to live for young people in general.

I suppose there will also be "good hospitals" there, doing high-impact research etc, but that is hardly unique to London.
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As a non-driver, the main appeal of London for me would be the public transport system. Where I live at the moment there is only one bus every half-hour, dropping to hourly in the evening. That convenience may be a factor for some people.
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I think London is just seen as an attractive place to live for young people in general.

I suppose there will also be "good hospitals" there, doing high-impact research etc, but that is hardly unique to London.
Agree with this. Big cities are seen as 'exciting'. It's true in pretty much every region - the big central city will be the most popular jobs.
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You get to live in London
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Not enough places.
But from what I can see here: https://www.foundationschools.info/c...son-table.html there more spaces in London than Yorkshire and the Humber and other deaneries, if I am looking at the right thing that is.
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But from what I can see here: https://www.foundationschools.info/c...son-table.html there more spaces in London than Yorkshire and the Humber and other deaneries, if I am looking at the right thing that is.
I don't think you are looking at the right thing.

For a start: Yorkshire and the Humber's competition ratio has been below 1 for both 2017 and 2018.
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Lots of big name hospitals (though this does not necessarily mean better experience!) Endless things to see/do/eat/experience, catering for almost every background and taste. It's a pretty cool place to live as a young adult with a decent income.

I also found, as a Cambridge grad, that loads of my non-medic friends gravitated there for work after graduation, things like law, accountancy, management consulting etc. My now-husband had a job lined up there when we first met, which is how I ended up there when I finally finished my course!

A large proportion of those of us who went there have now moved out for various reasons though.
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Lots of medical students obsess about getting jobs in London not because of pay or because there's more to keep you busy, but for the bragging rights. I used to know people who had never lived in London before, had no family or friends nearby, all chasing the Foundation Programme jobs there, just so they can flex for the prestige of having achieved a job in a competitive location. Having the social life and partying on your doorstep can only take you so far though. Eventually lots of them realise that moving to London as an adult is actually a lot harder compared to having been born and raised in the city. I see a lot of threads on TSR about people who moved to London for work thinking they could socialise all the time, become popular and enter high society but instead ended up isolated, lonely, maybe depression and anxiety. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those people were doctors, considering how the pandemic pretty much torpedoed hospitality, nightclubs, restaurants etc on which lots of small-minded medical students based their decisions to move there in the first place. People like the ones I used to know can't see anything beyond themselves.
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