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Primary or secondary teaching?

I thought I really wanted to be a primary school teacher but now I'm thinking I might also like secondary school teaching. Did/does anyone else have this issue and does anyone have a recommendation on how to make a decision?
Original post by kke.cr_
I thought I really wanted to be a primary school teacher but now I'm thinking I might also like secondary school teaching. Did/does anyone else have this issue and does anyone have a recommendation on how to make a decision?

the good thing about teaching is that you're able to bounce between the two

when you achieve QTS (qualified teacher status) you will have a age specialism (e.g. 3-7 or secondary) but having qts means you are able to teach in a primary school or a secondary irrespective of your specialism

so if you did a primary education with qts degree and work in a primary and want to swap to secondary you technically can - the tough part is showing headteachers you're a better option to hire than a subject specialist!

because of this reason and due to the subject knowledge required on individual subjects it's sometimes harder going from secondary to primary

to teach secondary you need to have a strong passion for one subject (e.g. maths) as it will be your timetable 24/7. you won't experience any other subjects and it will be your sole focus. the age of the children is also different and your focus would be more on promoting independent learning etc. you'll also usually repeat lessons in a day to several classes across a year group and not have the same class

whereas primary you will have a varied timetable and have your class of children that you can get to know really well. however, your subject knowledge needs to be good across all subject areas

my advice would be to think of a subject you really love and would like to explore at degree level. apply for this degree, and if possible do it as a joint honours with education studies (e.g. mathematics and education studies) although if you want to do a single subject degree then that's ok too! this way you can focus on developing your experience and skills across secondary and primary settings and decide which you prefer - then you can apply for either a primary or secondary pgce.

if you picked secondary pgce and did secondary for a while and disliked it, i do know a lot more teachers that have gone from being secondary teachers to primary than i have primary teachers to secondary. although, if you did a primary pgce with a maths degree for example you could persuade a headteacher you have the necessary subject knowledge to teach at secondary level. if you train with a degree in primary ed with qts you obviously will find it harder to get a secondary teaching job but will be qualified within the three years (so if you're desp to teach and eager to start asap it may be better). some secondaries hire primary qualified teachers to work within the learning development/SEN teams or work with children who need additional support - so this is something you can look into

get into teaching and other establishments offer subject knowledge courses (specifically for subejcts with teacher shortages such as physics and computing) so you can look into these if you qualify as a primary and want to go into secondary instead, but again, you may be up against someone with a degree in the subject so it's really dependent on the circumstance

or, alternatively, you can look at working in some of the very few middle schools left around the country (there really isn't many and i would assume getting a job in one would be tough - but definitely possible)

hope this helps and makes sense, let me know if you need any help :biggrin:
(edited 3 years ago)
Original post by kke.cr_
I thought I really wanted to be a primary school teacher but now I'm thinking I might also like secondary school teaching. Did/does anyone else have this issue and does anyone have a recommendation on how to make a decision?

Best way to decide is to get experience. Obviously hard right now, but if you're not in a rush, you can wait til schools are accepting people to shadow for a few days again.

Alternatively, pick up volunteering with the relevant age group so you at least get a feeling for what that's like.

What subject would you specialise in at secondary? I'd say that if no subject leaps out to you as the one you'd want to teach, you're probably better in primary, because you really do need a strong enthusiasm for your subject at secondary.
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Original post by obstruct
the good thing about teaching is that you're able to bounce between the two

when you achieve QTS (qualified teacher status) you will have a age specialism (e.g. 3-7 or secondary) but having qts means you are able to teach in a primary school or a secondary irrespective of your specialism

so if you did a primary education with qts degree and work in a primary and want to swap to secondary you technically can - the tough part is showing headteachers you're a better option to hire than a subject specialist!

because of this reason and due to the subject knowledge required on individual subjects it's sometimes harder going from secondary to primary

to teach secondary you need to have a strong passion for one subject (e.g. maths) as it will be your timetable 24/7. you won't experience any other subjects and it will be your sole focus. the age of the children is also different and your focus would be more on promoting independent learning etc. you'll also usually repeat lessons in a day to several classes across a year group and not have the same class

whereas primary you will have a varied timetable and have your class of children that you can get to know really well. however, your subject knowledge needs to be good across all subject areas

my advice would be to think of a subject you really love and would like to explore at degree level. apply for this degree, and if possible do it as a joint honours with education studies (e.g. mathematics and education studies) although if you want to do a single subject degree then that's ok too! this way you can focus on developing your experience and skills across secondary and primary settings and decide which you prefer - then you can apply for either a primary or secondary pgce.

if you picked secondary pgce and did secondary for a while and disliked it, i do know a lot more teachers that have gone from being secondary teachers to primary than i have primary teachers to secondary. although, if you did a primary pgce with a maths degree for example you could persuade a headteacher you have the necessary subject knowledge to teach at secondary level. if you train with a degree in primary ed with qts you obviously will find it harder to get a secondary teaching job but will be qualified within the three years (so if you're desp to teach and eager to start asap it may be better). some secondaries hire primary qualified teachers to work within the learning development/SEN teams or work with children who need additional support - so this is something you can look into

get into teaching and other establishments offer subject knowledge courses (specifically for subejcts with teacher shortages such as physics and computing) so you can look into these if you qualify as a primary and want to go into secondary instead, but again, you may be up against someone with a degree in the subject so it's really dependent on the circumstance

or, alternatively, you can look at working in some of the very few middle schools left around the country (there really isn't many and i would assume getting a job in one would be tough - but definitely possible)

hope this helps and makes sense, let me know if you need any help :biggrin:

Thank you so much, this has been really helpful! :smile:
Reply 4
Original post by bluebeetle
Best way to decide is to get experience. Obviously hard right now, but if you're not in a rush, you can wait til schools are accepting people to shadow for a few days again.

Alternatively, pick up volunteering with the relevant age group so you at least get a feeling for what that's like.

What subject would you specialise in at secondary? I'd say that if no subject leaps out to you as the one you'd want to teach, you're probably better in primary, because you really do need a strong enthusiasm for your subject at secondary.

If I were to go into secondary it would probably be geography because it was my strongest subject through the years - the only issue with this would be there are some areas I really do not enjoy compared to the others.

I'll definitely keep my eye out for any opportunities to interact with the different ages, I'm part of a sixth form school so I think experience in the secondary years will be a lot easier to find.

Thank you so much! :smile:

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