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Hey, I’m currently in my second year of undertaking my undergraduate degree in Biomedical Science and was hoping to get an idea of the different jobs available within the pharmaceutical industry that will fit my degree.
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(Original post by Saf06)
Hey, I’m currently in my second year of undertaking my undergraduate degree in Biomedical Science and was hoping to get an idea of the different jobs available within the pharmaceutical industry that will fit my degree.
Many thanks!!
Hey, I’m currently in my second year of undertaking my undergraduate degree in Biomedical Science and was hoping to get an idea of the different jobs available within the pharmaceutical industry that will fit my degree.
Many thanks!!
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Hey, I go to Bradford university and it’s mainly a mixture of biochemistry, microbiology and genetics type of modules.
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Research scientist in things like stem cell and car-T, or even antibodies/vaccines.
Pretty hard to get into without doing a placement year or a PhD
Lots of opportunities in small companies like DNA analysis and general lab technitian etc but aren't as well paid
Pretty hard to get into without doing a placement year or a PhD
Lots of opportunities in small companies like DNA analysis and general lab technitian etc but aren't as well paid
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(Original post by AndyChow)
Research scientist in things like stem cell and car-T, or even antibodies/vaccines.
Pretty hard to get into without doing a placement year or a PhD
Lots of opportunities in small companies like DNA analysis and general lab technitian etc but aren't as well paid
Research scientist in things like stem cell and car-T, or even antibodies/vaccines.
Pretty hard to get into without doing a placement year or a PhD
Lots of opportunities in small companies like DNA analysis and general lab technitian etc but aren't as well paid
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(Original post by Saf06)
Oh ok. Which jobs would you say are more well paid?
Oh ok. Which jobs would you say are more well paid?
Another route is to just stick with academia, if you can land a permanent position at a university as a reader or professor then it's quite good as well, but that depends a lot on luck and the amount of high impact papers you publish for your PhD. If you did 3 years PhD on a bad project with no results, then it's GG.
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(Original post by AndyChow)
Job that requires a PhD. Entry level jobs are low paid because there's way too many biomed undergrads relative to the number of vacancies, especially true if you are not from top 5 universities. You are looking at £25k with very limited career progression, that's why so many people come back to do a masters then PhD.
Another route is to just stick with academia, if you can land a permanent position at a university as a reader or professor then it's quite good as well, but that depends a lot on luck and the amount of high impact papers you publish for your PhD. If you did 3 years PhD on a bad project with no results, then it's GG.
Job that requires a PhD. Entry level jobs are low paid because there's way too many biomed undergrads relative to the number of vacancies, especially true if you are not from top 5 universities. You are looking at £25k with very limited career progression, that's why so many people come back to do a masters then PhD.
Another route is to just stick with academia, if you can land a permanent position at a university as a reader or professor then it's quite good as well, but that depends a lot on luck and the amount of high impact papers you publish for your PhD. If you did 3 years PhD on a bad project with no results, then it's GG.
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(Original post by Saf06)
Thanks for that. Also, moving aside from the pharmaceutical industry what type of job would you suggest after completion of degree?
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Thanks for that. Also, moving aside from the pharmaceutical industry what type of job would you suggest after completion of degree?
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(Original post by Saf06)
Anyone else able to help please
Anyone else able to help please
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(Original post by AndyChow)
Job that requires a PhD. Entry level jobs are low paid because there's way too many biomed undergrads relative to the number of vacancies, especially true if you are not from top 5 universities. You are looking at £25k with very limited career progression, that's why so many people come back to do a masters then PhD.
Another route is to just stick with academia, if you can land a permanent position at a university as a reader or professor then it's quite good as well, but that depends a lot on luck and the amount of high impact papers you publish for your PhD. If you did 3 years PhD on a bad project with no results, then it's GG.
Job that requires a PhD. Entry level jobs are low paid because there's way too many biomed undergrads relative to the number of vacancies, especially true if you are not from top 5 universities. You are looking at £25k with very limited career progression, that's why so many people come back to do a masters then PhD.
Another route is to just stick with academia, if you can land a permanent position at a university as a reader or professor then it's quite good as well, but that depends a lot on luck and the amount of high impact papers you publish for your PhD. If you did 3 years PhD on a bad project with no results, then it's GG.
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(Original post by fatimalatif806)
hi i'm applying for that this year and also want to get into the pharamceutical industry.
that's not ture. Too many people say that and its really not. In my opinion, a PhD isn't needed unless you want to go into research.
hi i'm applying for that this year and also want to get into the pharamceutical industry.
that's not ture. Too many people say that and its really not. In my opinion, a PhD isn't needed unless you want to go into research.
A-level student lecturing a postgraduate from Cambridge about the pharma industry. Should I be taking you seriously? Half of the masters students from my cohort went to do entry-level roles, the other half went to do a PhD. You definitely won't be getting a project lead role with just an MSc/MRes, since most biomed undergrad studies with MSci anyways. That's why so many PhD candidates are in their late 20's or early 30's because after years being stuck in 25-30k roles they realized this is the only way they can gain a promotion.
The fact that "Too many people say that" doesn't come from nowhere. How much arrogance does it take to think a 17yo's opinion is more correct than the consensus in this field? You are welcome to speak to me in 5 years time when you actually expeirenced the harsh reality of real life. Right now you seem to be living inside some naive fantasy.
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(Original post by AndyChow)
ThAtS nOt TrUe
A-level student lecturing a postgraduate from Cambridge about the pharma industry. Should I be taking you seriously? Half of the masters students from my cohort went to do entry-level roles, the other half went to do a PhD. You definitely won't be getting a project lead role with just an MSc/MRes, since most biomed undergrad studies with MSci anyways. That's why so many PhD candidates are in their late 20's or early 30's because after years being stuck in 25-30k roles they realized this is the only way they can gain a promotion.
The fact that "Too many people say that" doesn't come from nowhere. How much arrogance does it take to think a 17yo's opinion is more correct than the consensus in this field? You are welcome to speak to me in 5 years time when you actually expeirenced the harsh reality of real life. Right now you seem to be living inside some naive fantasy.
ThAtS nOt TrUe
A-level student lecturing a postgraduate from Cambridge about the pharma industry. Should I be taking you seriously? Half of the masters students from my cohort went to do entry-level roles, the other half went to do a PhD. You definitely won't be getting a project lead role with just an MSc/MRes, since most biomed undergrad studies with MSci anyways. That's why so many PhD candidates are in their late 20's or early 30's because after years being stuck in 25-30k roles they realized this is the only way they can gain a promotion.
The fact that "Too many people say that" doesn't come from nowhere. How much arrogance does it take to think a 17yo's opinion is more correct than the consensus in this field? You are welcome to speak to me in 5 years time when you actually expeirenced the harsh reality of real life. Right now you seem to be living inside some naive fantasy.
My point is, you dont need a PhD to be successful, but having one will help you. There are many routes to success, not just through a Phd.
Also i would like to add, money isn't everything. Being 'stuck in a 25k-30k job' would be some people's dream, there are people who work so hard 9-5 jobs 5 days a week and they earn much less. Be appreciative of what you have.
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(Original post by fatimalatif806)
Being 'stuck in a 25k-30k job' would be some people's dream
Being 'stuck in a 25k-30k job' would be some people's dream
"experience in the field" Means PhD + years of postdoc research. It does not mean 10 years as a lab technitian. The corporate promotial hierarchical structure in phama is different and you should've done more research into it. The good roles will say MSc or PhD but it's always the PhD that get the job. Many also ask for "Strong publication record" so I wonder how much high impact papers can you publish in just an MSc?
P.S. Postgrad does not mean PhD, I'm just an MSci who left the field
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(Original post by AndyChow)
To be frank, I was once ignorant and naive like this. It's a phase of life everyone experiences and I have no hard feelings for you. But you should tone down your arrogance because you have 0 experience with the industry and 0 credibility to backup your claims. You are entitled to your opinions but you are in no position give career advice at a serious thread when you are younger than the OP and haven't even made the 1st step yet. A quick look at your post history, you were asking about employment a week ago, so I don't know where did you find this confidence in such a short period of time.
"experience in the field" Means PhD + years of postdoc research. It does not mean 10 years as a lab technitian. The corporate promotial hierarchical structure in phama is different and you should've done more research into it. The good roles will say MSc or PhD but it's always the PhD that get the job. Many also ask for "Strong publication record" so I wonder how much high impact papers can you publish in just an MSc?
P.S. Postgrad does not mean PhD, I'm just an MSci who left the field
To be frank, I was once ignorant and naive like this. It's a phase of life everyone experiences and I have no hard feelings for you. But you should tone down your arrogance because you have 0 experience with the industry and 0 credibility to backup your claims. You are entitled to your opinions but you are in no position give career advice at a serious thread when you are younger than the OP and haven't even made the 1st step yet. A quick look at your post history, you were asking about employment a week ago, so I don't know where did you find this confidence in such a short period of time.
"experience in the field" Means PhD + years of postdoc research. It does not mean 10 years as a lab technitian. The corporate promotial hierarchical structure in phama is different and you should've done more research into it. The good roles will say MSc or PhD but it's always the PhD that get the job. Many also ask for "Strong publication record" so I wonder how much high impact papers can you publish in just an MSc?
P.S. Postgrad does not mean PhD, I'm just an MSci who left the field
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(Original post by fatimalatif806)
Honestly I’m not trying to be rude, I’m here to get some advice. I probably am very naive rn and will laugh at myself in 5 years time. I just haven’t found what I’m passionate about yet, and it’s really bothering me. Seeing all the ppl in my class wanting to be doctors or following their dreams while I just feel like I don’t know which path to go down. I like science so I’m choosing biomed but like I love law and business too. I don’t even know if I’m making the right desicion lol and I’m so impatient as well so not being able to know what I’ll do in the future is annoying me.
Honestly I’m not trying to be rude, I’m here to get some advice. I probably am very naive rn and will laugh at myself in 5 years time. I just haven’t found what I’m passionate about yet, and it’s really bothering me. Seeing all the ppl in my class wanting to be doctors or following their dreams while I just feel like I don’t know which path to go down. I like science so I’m choosing biomed but like I love law and business too. I don’t even know if I’m making the right desicion lol and I’m so impatient as well so not being able to know what I’ll do in the future is annoying me.
I don't think biomed is dead, it's a rising industry unlike traditional STEMs, but it's massively oversaturated. Nowadays a BSc will only qualify you for lab technician washing dishes & running gels/assays. An MSc at a reputable uni will get you an entry-level scientist role, but to access any senior roles you must go back for PhD under a good supervisor and publish a lot of high-impact papers. I'm just throwing it out there because I hope people realize the true landscape before committing.
Generally, unless you have an extreme passion for a subject, I recommend people to have a long term vision that sets them up at a good financial position in 10 years time, just in case money becomes an issue.
1. List subjects you CAN do and have some talent in, and not end up hating (depression is worse than unemployment)
2. Research each subject, look at graduate employment and not just total percentage figure (McDonalds also count as employment), see what kinds of sector people are in, a large proportion of 'progressed to further education', 'catering & retail services' are big alarm bells.
3. Strike a balance between passion and financial reward.
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