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Is it better to go to Cambridge/Oxford/UCL/LSE to study accountancy OR is it better to go for the PWC flying start degree that is studied at either one of these universities : Alliance Manchester business school / Nottingham university/ Henley business school / Newcastle university.
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I graduated from Newcastle University flying start programme and I would recommend it only if you know what audit is and are sure that thats where you want to start your career. Otherwise I would recommend doing an accountancy course in any of the top unis you mentioned as you will have wider options in terms of what modules you study and the backing of a big brand uni for the jobs you apply.
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(Original post by rahilgandhi)
I graduated from Newcastle University flying start programme and I would recommend it only if you know what audit is and are sure that thats where you want to start your career. Otherwise I would recommend doing an accountancy course in any of the top unis you mentioned as you will have wider options in terms of what modules you study and the backing of a big brand uni for the jobs you apply.
I graduated from Newcastle University flying start programme and I would recommend it only if you know what audit is and are sure that thats where you want to start your career. Otherwise I would recommend doing an accountancy course in any of the top unis you mentioned as you will have wider options in terms of what modules you study and the backing of a big brand uni for the jobs you apply.
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I think the OP is mistaken in that you can't really go to a top uni to do accounting. Oxford, Cambridge and UCL don't teach it. Only LSE and Warwick teach accounting and finance, not just accounting.
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(Original post by alg.xx)
I know I want to do accountancy but if I go to those top universities, I'll have to take the ACA qualification separately which could take an extra 3 years. The flying start degree would take me a total of 5 years to finish everything ( 1 year less than a flying start degree ) but I'm wondering if that 1 year extra of ACA content compared with the flying start degreed is worth me going to a top university, especially if employers don't generally care what uni you graduated from. What do you think?
I know I want to do accountancy but if I go to those top universities, I'll have to take the ACA qualification separately which could take an extra 3 years. The flying start degree would take me a total of 5 years to finish everything ( 1 year less than a flying start degree ) but I'm wondering if that 1 year extra of ACA content compared with the flying start degreed is worth me going to a top university, especially if employers don't generally care what uni you graduated from. What do you think?
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(Original post by rahilgandhi)
Well auditing is only a subset of acccounting. If you want to work on deals, mergers and acquisitions, and corporate finance at PwC or another big 4, the flying start degree may not be the best route. Other top unis will help you build a stronger profile to get into more grad schemes than flying start unis. However, if you are sure that you want to audit- flying start is a great option. Other things you may wish to consider is that flying start degrees are generally less stressful compared to a normal degree as you already have a job secured so you don't need to apply to 40-50 grad schemes and attend so many assessment centres in your last year in uni. This makes the "uni experience" more "fun". But if I got to go back to uni, I would have gone to a top uni as I now wish to work in corporate finance but am finding to hard to transition (maybe just because of the slowdown in job market due to covid).
Well auditing is only a subset of acccounting. If you want to work on deals, mergers and acquisitions, and corporate finance at PwC or another big 4, the flying start degree may not be the best route. Other top unis will help you build a stronger profile to get into more grad schemes than flying start unis. However, if you are sure that you want to audit- flying start is a great option. Other things you may wish to consider is that flying start degrees are generally less stressful compared to a normal degree as you already have a job secured so you don't need to apply to 40-50 grad schemes and attend so many assessment centres in your last year in uni. This makes the "uni experience" more "fun". But if I got to go back to uni, I would have gone to a top uni as I now wish to work in corporate finance but am finding to hard to transition (maybe just because of the slowdown in job market due to covid).
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(Original post by alg.xx)
I don’t want to sound incompetent but what is the difference between audit and deals etc. If you gain the ACA, I thought you could go into these routes anyway.
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I don’t want to sound incompetent but what is the difference between audit and deals etc. If you gain the ACA, I thought you could go into these routes anyway.
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https://www.pwc.co.uk/careers/studen...ies/deals.html
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(Original post by rahilgandhi)
That's not a problem at all, I would advise going through various grad schemes on the internet. Here is the PwC deals scheme for you.
https://www.pwc.co.uk/careers/studen...ies/deals.html
That's not a problem at all, I would advise going through various grad schemes on the internet. Here is the PwC deals scheme for you.
https://www.pwc.co.uk/careers/studen...ies/deals.html
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(Original post by alg.xx)
Thank you. So was I mistaken to believe that the ACA course can open up copious routes on top of audit, regardless of what route ( deals, tax etc )you take?
Thank you. So was I mistaken to believe that the ACA course can open up copious routes on top of audit, regardless of what route ( deals, tax etc )you take?
I think the point (which is probably true to some extent) which the person made is that it's hard to move into banks or elite advisory firms without also having a strong undergrad degree. I think this is more cultural than based on technical skills. Investment banks need their employees to perform when dealing with important clients and these archaic institutions rightly or wrongly can be quite snobby so tend to hire people who come from strong academic backgrounds. This can make moves from the big4 to elite firms difficult if you go to just a regular Russell group university or do a degree apprenticeship.
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(Original post by BenRyan99)
The ACA course essentially can open up doors to other areas such as transactional services, restructuring, deals advisory and M&A. It's unlikely for someone to go from audit and the ACA to tax as they do a different set of exams.
I think the point (which is probably true to some extent) which the person made is that it's hard to move into banks or elite advisory firms without also having a strong undergrad degree. I think this is more cultural than based on technical skills. Investment banks need their employees to perform when dealing with important clients and these archaic institutions rightly or wrongly can be quite snobby so tend to hire people who come from strong academic backgrounds. This can make moves from the big4 to elite firms difficult if you go to just a regular Russell group university or do a degree apprenticeship.
The ACA course essentially can open up doors to other areas such as transactional services, restructuring, deals advisory and M&A. It's unlikely for someone to go from audit and the ACA to tax as they do a different set of exams.
I think the point (which is probably true to some extent) which the person made is that it's hard to move into banks or elite advisory firms without also having a strong undergrad degree. I think this is more cultural than based on technical skills. Investment banks need their employees to perform when dealing with important clients and these archaic institutions rightly or wrongly can be quite snobby so tend to hire people who come from strong academic backgrounds. This can make moves from the big4 to elite firms difficult if you go to just a regular Russell group university or do a degree apprenticeship.
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(Original post by BenRyan99)
The ACA course essentially can open up doors to other areas such as transactional services, restructuring, deals advisory and M&A. It's unlikely for someone to go from audit and the ACA to tax as they do a different set of exams.
I think the point (which is probably true to some extent) which the person made is that it's hard to move into banks or elite advisory firms without also having a strong undergrad degree. I think this is more cultural than based on technical skills. Investment banks need their employees to perform when dealing with important clients and these archaic institutions rightly or wrongly can be quite snobby so tend to hire people who come from strong academic backgrounds. This can make moves from the big4 to elite firms difficult if you go to just a regular Russell group university or do a degree apprenticeship.
The ACA course essentially can open up doors to other areas such as transactional services, restructuring, deals advisory and M&A. It's unlikely for someone to go from audit and the ACA to tax as they do a different set of exams.
I think the point (which is probably true to some extent) which the person made is that it's hard to move into banks or elite advisory firms without also having a strong undergrad degree. I think this is more cultural than based on technical skills. Investment banks need their employees to perform when dealing with important clients and these archaic institutions rightly or wrongly can be quite snobby so tend to hire people who come from strong academic backgrounds. This can make moves from the big4 to elite firms difficult if you go to just a regular Russell group university or do a degree apprenticeship.
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Hi guys I’m debating between a PWC sponsored course in Nottingham and Accounting and finance course at Warwick. See the thing is Warwick is a Investment banker target uni.So if I do the PWC course,I can’t get into to IB but creates a good path for Audit in Big 4. It’s tough , can someone help me decide.
Course requirements for both is AAB for me and I’m predicted A*ABB and I have already achieved the A*.
Course requirements for both is AAB for me and I’m predicted A*ABB and I have already achieved the A*.
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(Original post by rahilgandhi)
I graduated from Newcastle University flying start programme and I would recommend it only if you know what audit is and are sure that thats where you want to start your career. Otherwise I would recommend doing an accountancy course in any of the top unis you mentioned as you will have wider options in terms of what modules you study and the backing of a big brand uni for the jobs you apply.
I graduated from Newcastle University flying start programme and I would recommend it only if you know what audit is and are sure that thats where you want to start your career. Otherwise I would recommend doing an accountancy course in any of the top unis you mentioned as you will have wider options in terms of what modules you study and the backing of a big brand uni for the jobs you apply.
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