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It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
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(Original post by karl pilkington)
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
A lot of things are being done to correct this though - widening participation and Medicine with a Foundation Year courses to mention just two.
This year, due to guaranteeing interviews for contextual applicants and those who had achieved A*s, Exeter rejected everyone else with a UCAT score less than top 3% of the population (3040).
Medicine with a Foundation Year courses typically have standard offers of BBC or even BCC or lower.
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(Original post by karl pilkington)
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
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Statistically it literally is, yes. But as said, things are being done to try to change that, thankfully!
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(Original post by becausethenight)
Statistically it literally is, yes. But as said, things are being done to try to change that, thankfully!
Statistically it literally is, yes. But as said, things are being done to try to change that, thankfully!
He was punished for his father hard work.
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(Original post by karl pilkington)
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
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Yes, I think so, I've never met a doctor and got the impression that they went to the same schools I did, or come from a similar place to me.
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(Original post by ROTL94)
Yes, I think so, I've never met a doctor and got the impression that they went to the same schools I did, or come from a similar place to me.
Yes, I think so, I've never met a doctor and got the impression that they went to the same schools I did, or come from a similar place to me.
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Yeah, it's pretty middle-class dominated.
To be honest, in my opinion, under-representation of the working-class isn't something that is talked about that much. Which is a shame.
To be honest, in my opinion, under-representation of the working-class isn't something that is talked about that much. Which is a shame.
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(Original post by looloo2134)
My uncle when to Cambridge in 1970s he grow up in a council house single father in an ex mining town. When his son applied to medical school his father my uncle now middle class have to pay for him and he had to get better grades than a working class student from his father background.
He was punished for his father hard work.
My uncle when to Cambridge in 1970s he grow up in a council house single father in an ex mining town. When his son applied to medical school his father my uncle now middle class have to pay for him and he had to get better grades than a working class student from his father background.
He was punished for his father hard work.
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If you become a doctor then you become middle class, so yes, medicine is dominated by the middle class.
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(Original post by becausethenight)
Er, ok? Not sure how ‘not getting the support available to disadvantaged students when you’re not disadvantaged’ is a punishment?
Er, ok? Not sure how ‘not getting the support available to disadvantaged students when you’re not disadvantaged’ is a punishment?
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(Original post by looloo2134)
If his father has not worked hard at school and grow up disadvantaged he would not have needed to get the same grades.
If his father has not worked hard at school and grow up disadvantaged he would not have needed to get the same grades.
This is a bit like saying "if I were poor, the state would give me benefits, so I'm being punished for not being poor by not being given benefits" - you're not being punished, you just don't need help.
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I'm strongly in favour of abolishing the A-level and replacing with a universal entrance examination that anyone can take. However you'd likely see a similar class make-up. People with more resources tend to have an easier time.
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(Original post by karl pilkington)
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
It is so difficult to get an offer you have to have top academic qualifications therefore have to go to quite a good school. You also have to have a good persona statement etc. Even graduate-entry you have to have a degree most people who go to university are still middle class.
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(Original post by Compost)
If you become a doctor then you become middle class, so yes, medicine is dominated by the middle class.
If you become a doctor then you become middle class, so yes, medicine is dominated by the middle class.
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Most people at university were doctors or dentists because their parents were also I was amazed by how many of them went to private school.
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(Original post by karl pilkington)
I obv mean before the person becomes a doctor ie their parents are doctor architects rather than carpet fitter or a boiler repair man.
I obv mean before the person becomes a doctor ie their parents are doctor architects rather than carpet fitter or a boiler repair man.
why is there no big hoo-ha about that ?

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(Original post by the bear)
many lucrative professions such as soccer player are dominated by people from the lowest reaches of society.
why is there no big hoo-ha about that ?
many lucrative professions such as soccer player are dominated by people from the lowest reaches of society.
why is there no big hoo-ha about that ?

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(Original post by karl pilkington)
because obv that is not something where you need qualifications and an education you can play football in the street. People who go to a bad state school are held back by the school not by their ability.
because obv that is not something where you need qualifications and an education you can play football in the street. People who go to a bad state school are held back by the school not by their ability.
smh
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