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#2
If yr mum didn't have a space to merge into she likely should have stayed in her lane/backed off rather than try and cut off a truck I suspect. Trucks tend to always have right of way in these situations, purely because they are trucks.
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(Original post by csmith20)
Would appreciate some advice because I feel a bit rubbish. My mother was driving along today trying to enter a lane (vehicle was slightly poking in) but a lorry refused to give her any room and kept driving, ended up scraping up the side. The lorry was clearly able to see her and was just driving without regard. It was very slow moving as it was a traffic jam near traffic lights so no heavy impact but just ignorant driving.
Are there any steps that could be taken? Anything to be done?
Would appreciate some advice because I feel a bit rubbish. My mother was driving along today trying to enter a lane (vehicle was slightly poking in) but a lorry refused to give her any room and kept driving, ended up scraping up the side. The lorry was clearly able to see her and was just driving without regard. It was very slow moving as it was a traffic jam near traffic lights so no heavy impact but just ignorant driving.
Are there any steps that could be taken? Anything to be done?
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(Original post by StriderHort)
If yr mum didn't have a space to merge into she likely should have stayed in her lane/backed off rather than try and cut off a truck I suspect. Trucks tend to always have right of way in these situations, purely because they are trucks.
If yr mum didn't have a space to merge into she likely should have stayed in her lane/backed off rather than try and cut off a truck I suspect. Trucks tend to always have right of way in these situations, purely because they are trucks.
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(Original post by csmith20)
Thanks for the reply. To be honest I’m not sure if it was cutting the lorry off as it was all so slow moving. Does the lorry’s right of way extend to actually continuing when they can see a car entering the lane? Plenty of cars were merging into the same lane but this lorry just happened to decide not to stop.
Thanks for the reply. To be honest I’m not sure if it was cutting the lorry off as it was all so slow moving. Does the lorry’s right of way extend to actually continuing when they can see a car entering the lane? Plenty of cars were merging into the same lane but this lorry just happened to decide not to stop.
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(Original post by IWMTom)
The lorry does not have to give way. Your mum shouldn't have pushed her way in.
The lorry does not have to give way. Your mum shouldn't have pushed her way in.
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(Original post by csmith20)
Would appreciate some advice because I feel a bit rubbish. My mother was driving along today trying to enter a lane (vehicle was slightly poking in) but a lorry refused to give her any room and kept driving, ended up scraping up the side. The lorry was clearly able to see her and was just driving without regard. It was very slow moving as it was a traffic jam near traffic lights so no heavy impact but just ignorant driving.
Are there any steps that could be taken? Anything to be done?
Would appreciate some advice because I feel a bit rubbish. My mother was driving along today trying to enter a lane (vehicle was slightly poking in) but a lorry refused to give her any room and kept driving, ended up scraping up the side. The lorry was clearly able to see her and was just driving without regard. It was very slow moving as it was a traffic jam near traffic lights so no heavy impact but just ignorant driving.
Are there any steps that could be taken? Anything to be done?
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(Original post by csmith20)
So to clarify, if a lorry sees a car entering with a safe amount of room, it has a legal right to just keep going and scrape past the car to keep its place?
So to clarify, if a lorry sees a car entering with a safe amount of room, it has a legal right to just keep going and scrape past the car to keep its place?
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(Original post by csmith20)
Thanks for the reply. To be honest I’m not sure if it was cutting the lorry off as it was all so slow moving. Does the lorry’s right of way extend to actually continuing when they can see a car entering the lane? Plenty of cars were merging into the same lane but this lorry just happened to decide not to stop.
Thanks for the reply. To be honest I’m not sure if it was cutting the lorry off as it was all so slow moving. Does the lorry’s right of way extend to actually continuing when they can see a car entering the lane? Plenty of cars were merging into the same lane but this lorry just happened to decide not to stop.
Plenty of people do this semi aggressive forced merging thing and my boss is really bad for it, but at the end of the day if the other driver won't yield you need to back off into your own lane. There's either a clear space to move into or their isn't and this sounds like 'isn't', you can't just keeping going 1/3rd in the lane and hope for the best.
As said, I'm not to sure about the truck, but it deffo sounds like your mum was the one who put herself in a dangerous situation (with a truck)
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(Original post by IWMTom)
It's completely entitled to not let you in. I'd imagine an insurer would find your mum 100% liable as the onus is on her to merge safely.. not be a **** and push her way in (especially in front of a lorry!)
It's completely entitled to not let you in. I'd imagine an insurer would find your mum 100% liable as the onus is on her to merge safely.. not be a **** and push her way in (especially in front of a lorry!)
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(Original post by csmith20)
Irrespective of the circumstances from today, to clarify (again) based on what you’ve said - if a vehicle cuts you up when you have right of way, you’re entitled to just keep going as though they aren’t there? There’s a difference between not letting somebody in, and using your vehicles mass to push a vehicle that’s already partially in.
Irrespective of the circumstances from today, to clarify (again) based on what you’ve said - if a vehicle cuts you up when you have right of way, you’re entitled to just keep going as though they aren’t there? There’s a difference between not letting somebody in, and using your vehicles mass to push a vehicle that’s already partially in.
Your mum caused the collision by pushing in front of the lorry, not the lorry for continuing in its lane.
You don't seem to be grasping this.
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(Original post by IWMTom)
It's not really relevant.
Your mum caused the collision by pushing in front of the lorry, not the lorry for continuing in its lane.
You don't seem to be grasping this.
It's not really relevant.
Your mum caused the collision by pushing in front of the lorry, not the lorry for continuing in its lane.
You don't seem to be grasping this.
However, I’m more interested in your response. You’ve basically said if somebody cuts you up when you have right of way, it’s your right to just keep on going. That kind of attitude is just as dangerous / more dangerous than actually cutting somebody up - because most of the time you’re cut up you can just brake. So I’m clarifying if that’s your perspective?
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(Original post by csmith20)
Irrespective of the circumstances from today, to clarify (again) based on what you’ve said - if a vehicle cuts you up when you have right of way, you’re entitled to just keep going as though they aren’t there? There’s a difference between not letting somebody in, and using your vehicles mass to push a vehicle that’s already partially in.
Irrespective of the circumstances from today, to clarify (again) based on what you’ve said - if a vehicle cuts you up when you have right of way, you’re entitled to just keep going as though they aren’t there? There’s a difference between not letting somebody in, and using your vehicles mass to push a vehicle that’s already partially in.
To talk about 'entitled' you would need to basically prove the truck driver did it on purpose, rather than as a result of the situation your mum placed them in.
It's like running across the road without looking, getting hit, and claiming that the other driver had no right to knock you down, when the important question is 'why did you run into their path in the first place?'
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(Original post by csmith20)
Collision is a huge exaggeration and was my own fault exaggerating for describing it that way. We since found out there was no contact made (almost was)
However, I’m more interested in your response. You’ve basically said if somebody cuts you up when you have right of way, it’s your right to just keep on going. That kind of attitude is just as dangerous / more dangerous than actually cutting somebody up - because most of the time you’re cut up you can just brake. So I’m clarifying if that’s your perspective?
Collision is a huge exaggeration and was my own fault exaggerating for describing it that way. We since found out there was no contact made (almost was)
However, I’m more interested in your response. You’ve basically said if somebody cuts you up when you have right of way, it’s your right to just keep on going. That kind of attitude is just as dangerous / more dangerous than actually cutting somebody up - because most of the time you’re cut up you can just brake. So I’m clarifying if that’s your perspective?
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(Original post by csmith20)
Collision is a huge exaggeration and was my own fault exaggerating for describing it that way. We since found out there was no contact made (almost).
However, I’m more interested in your response. You’ve basically said if somebody cuts you up when you have right of way, it’s your right to just keep on going. That kind of attitude is just as dangerous / more dangerous than actually cutting somebody up - because most of the time you’re cut up you can just brake. So I’m clarifying if that’s your perspective?
Collision is a huge exaggeration and was my own fault exaggerating for describing it that way. We since found out there was no contact made (almost).
However, I’m more interested in your response. You’ve basically said if somebody cuts you up when you have right of way, it’s your right to just keep on going. That kind of attitude is just as dangerous / more dangerous than actually cutting somebody up - because most of the time you’re cut up you can just brake. So I’m clarifying if that’s your perspective?
(Original post by IWMTom)
A lorry has significantly less visibility than a car. It's quite simple.
A lorry has significantly less visibility than a car. It's quite simple.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
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(Original post by csmith20)
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
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(Original post by csmith20)
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
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(Original post by csmith20)
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
that’s just as relevant as saying a lorry has more tyres. The question is - based on what you’ve said, your perspective seems to be, if somebody cuts you up then keep on going.
I’m just clarifying if that is your view. Regardless of what kind of vehicle they are.
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(Original post by StriderHort)
If you're waiting for him to say 'It's totally ok and my policy to drive straight through other cars' then he probably isn't going to.
If you're waiting for him to say 'It's totally ok and my policy to drive straight through other cars' then he probably isn't going to.
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(Original post by IWMTom)
The vehicle matters here genius..
The vehicle matters here genius..
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