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(Original post by Lawzzzzzz)
Yes it would be meaningless in an absolute sense.

It is a descriptive phrase the alludes the view society would take of it.

There is no absolute a priori truth that you shouldnt do it. Its society that has constructed a normative system in which that is seen as "bad"...

the grund norm though is not predicated on anythign substantive.
Surely that would depends on religious belief. If christianity was definitely true for example then morals would be based on christian teaching and as the words of god they would be absolute.

So some people will see morals absolute and some won't depending on belief and it can't be proved either way at the moment.
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(Original post by Lawzzzzzz)
Yes it would be meaningless in an absolute sense.

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Bu then you could say that of almost anything, which would render any debate dead....
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(Original post by viviki)
Surely that would depends on religious belief. If christianity was definitely true for example then morals would be based on christian teaching and as the words of god they would be absolute.

So some people will see morals absolute and some won't depending on belief and it can't be proved either way at the moment.
Well:

1. No - not at all - even if you DO assume the existence of god - you can still ask the question - Why should I obey him?

2. Many people who are secular speak about morality as if it were absolute.
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Bu then you could say that of almost anything, which would render any debate dead....
Perhaps. But its the truth

Anyway - you can still have a debtate based on social norms - you just have to understand that they have no objective basis...

The grundnorm's validity is assumed... it cannot be proved.
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No, it isn't immoral.

That was easy.
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I don't think it's morally wrong, just less morally right.

On the whole "natural" debate thing, although we are omnivorours, it could be seen that as we have advanced past other animals in such a complex and delevoped way, it's hard to equate the "other animals do it" theory. Especially since the majority of people don't have the moral 'ability', or even skill, to hunt a wild animal, so it is not really instinct.
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There's no moral argument at all. We can eat whatever we like.
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(Original post by Inverurie Jones)
There's no moral argument at all. We can eat whatever we like.
Ok, if you produce a brain dead infant, I'll eat it.
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I may hold you to that.
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I may hold you to that.
Funny how that was your 666th post
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personally i think its harsh to put any animal through any pain or discomfort just for my benefit, i therefore am vegan.
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personally i think its harsh to put any animal through any pain or discomfort just for my benefit, i therefore am vegan.
I think animals are far too tasty and I like leather jackets far too much to even consider that. Besides, don't you find you veggies fart a lot?
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i therefore am vegan.
And that's what your brain will become.
Have you ever figured out that *you* are made of meat???????????????????
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There's no moral argument at all. We can eat whatever we like.
We can eat whatever we like, therefore do we need to eat meat?, is the moral argument. If we were just carniverous, we'd have to, but we eat fruit, vegetables, grain etc, so is it necessary?
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Why do you guys (and girls!) persist in this thread? All the fun is to be had in the 'Is it morally wrong to eat *human* meat' thread! ('Peter, its another sword') Go on... try it on!
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(Original post by naivesincerity)
We can eat whatever we like, therefore do we need to eat meat?, is the moral argument. If we were just carniverous, we'd have to, but we eat fruit, vegetables, grain etc, so is it necessary?
Because meat is what most of us like. Who cares about necessity? Neither animals nor humans have any right to live (the only reason we pretend humans have that right is to protect ourselves) so what possible argument could there be against eating meat?
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I have been a vegetarian for many years, as my parents decided to be vegetarians before I was born. Obviously all my meals at home were veggie, so I became accustomed to the diet. As soon as I started going to friends' houses, I started to taste meat, being curious little me. My discovery was a big "meh". I lived without it that long, and it was nothing special. Why start eating meat when I am perfectly happy and healthy being a veggie? And so it remained.

Recently however, I started to think about the moral debate of whether it is right or wrong to eat animals. And you know what, I couldn't find one convincing argument in favour of it being morally right. In my opinion, there is no moral justification for eating meat in a world (well at least in the civilised world) which no longer requires us to kill and eat animals to live.

Discuss.
well send your pet over to my house and we'll have a philosphical debate about it.
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well send your pet over to my house and we'll have a philosphical debate about it.
No thanks, my rabbit might come back brainwashed with your FILTHY LIES.
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No thanks, my rabbit might come back brainwashed with your FILTHY LIES.
Send it to my house and the little bugger won't come back at all.
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