Universities ask Government to foot a fee rebate for students affected by Covid-19

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https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ng-street-told

University leaders have called upon the government to give students rebates on their tuition and maintenance loan for the disruption of teaching and accommodation due to the Covid-19 crisis.

Taken from the Guardian article:

'Prof Steve West, vice-chancellor of the University of the West of England in Bristol, says the government should offer rebates by cutting the amount that students have to repay for tuition fee and living-cost loans for this year. “That would be a very powerful signal to students and society as a whole,” he says.

Students have criticised Boris Johnson on social media for failing to mention universities when announcing the national lockdown on Monday. A petition calling for a cut to tuition fees from £9,250 to £3,000 has reached 508,000 signatures. And as students face another term learning alone in their bedrooms, paying for accommodation they are not allowed to return to, many are demanding a rebate.

Vicky Blake, president of the University and College Union, says university leaders must join staff and student unions to push the government for “a proper bailout” that would let universities compensate students “without a further decimation of staffing in the sector”.

Blake says that during the crisis universities “pressured students to come to campus under the illusion that it was something approaching normal, when that was never going to be possible”.

However, staff have worked extremely hard to make the new online learning experience work, she says, with many providing more contact hours for students than would have been timetabled in an ordinary year. “Throughout this crisis, teaching and support staff have put in impossible hours to support students, dealing with hugely increased workloads alongside the needs of their own families. Many are on levels of hourly pay that might shock students if they knew.”'

What do you think of the comments made by some university leaders? Do you think it is right that they are calling on the government to offer students a loan rebate, or do you think there is another way? Do you think the Government will listen to their calls?

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https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ng-street-told

University leaders have called upon the government to give students rebates on their tuition and maintenance loan for the disruption of teaching and accommodation due to the Covid-19 crisis.

Taken from the Guardian article:

'Prof Steve West, vice-chancellor of the University of the West of England in Bristol, says the government should offer rebates by cutting the amount that students have to repay for tuition fee and living-cost loans for this year. “That would be a very powerful signal to students and society as a whole,” he says.

Students have criticised Boris Johnson on social media for failing to mention universities when announcing the national lockdown on Monday. A petition calling for a cut to tuition fees from £9,250 to £3,000 has reached 508,000 signatures. And as students face another term learning alone in their bedrooms, paying for accommodation they are not allowed to return to, many are demanding a rebate.

Vicky Blake, president of the University and College Union, says university leaders must join staff and student unions to push the government for “a proper bailout” that would let universities compensate students “without a further decimation of staffing in the sector”.

Blake says that during the crisis universities “pressured students to come to campus under the illusion that it was something approaching normal, when that was never going to be possible”.

However, staff have worked extremely hard to make the new online learning experience work, she says, with many providing more contact hours for students than would have been timetabled in an ordinary year. “Throughout this crisis, teaching and support staff have put in impossible hours to support students, dealing with hugely increased workloads alongside the needs of their own families. Many are on levels of hourly pay that might shock students if they knew.”'

What do you think of the comments made by some university leaders? Do you think it is right that they are calling on the government to offer students a loan rebate, or do you think there is another way? Do you think the Government will listen to their calls?

Let us know your thoughts!
TBH a fee reduction does very little. They are basically just wiping numbers off a spreadsheet which the government was set to wipe 30 years from now. The only people this will help are students who graduate and go work in top law firms/finance etc. straight out of university where the value of their degree is worth every penny purely on the opportunities it opens.

I would much rather the government said no to a fee reduction and did a full re-evaluation of the students loans system and university funding method after the pandemic is over. I think the government seriously needs to stop paying £9K for lots of courses with low socioeconomic benefit, move back to centralised financing but for credibly beneficial courses. Base the funding around optimising graduate opportunities for the UK via jobs and innovation internally.
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Do I think the government will listen to their calls? No.
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TBH a fee reduction does very little. They are basically just wiping numbers off a spreadsheet which the government was set to wipe 30 years from now. The only people this will help are students who graduate and go work in top law firms/finance etc. straight out of university where the value of their degree is worth every penny purely on the opportunities it opens.

I would much rather the government said no to a fee reduction and did a full re-evaluation of the students loans system and university funding method after the pandemic is over. I think the government seriously needs to stop paying £9K for lots of courses with low socioeconomic benefit, move back to centralised financing but for credibly beneficial courses. Base the funding around optimising graduate opportunities for the UK via jobs and innovation internally.
I think it's a valid point you raise around students not seeing the benefits of a rebate as immediate money in their pockets - and something I think a lot of people wouldn't necessarily realise when calling for rebates or refunds on their fees.

I think you're right, it could be a great chance for re-evaluation!
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I think I'd rather have a rent rebate rather than a tuition fee rebate especially since the tuition is wiped after X amount of years anyway :hmmmm:
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(Original post by StrawberryDreams)
https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ng-street-told

University leaders have called upon the government to give students rebates on their tuition and maintenance loan for the disruption of teaching and accommodation due to the Covid-19 crisis.

Taken from the Guardian article:

'Prof Steve West, vice-chancellor of the University of the West of England in Bristol, says the government should offer rebates by cutting the amount that students have to repay for tuition fee and living-cost loans for this year. “That would be a very powerful signal to students and society as a whole,” he says.

Students have criticised Boris Johnson on social media for failing to mention universities when announcing the national lockdown on Monday. A petition calling for a cut to tuition fees from £9,250 to £3,000 has reached 508,000 signatures. And as students face another term learning alone in their bedrooms, paying for accommodation they are not allowed to return to, many are demanding a rebate.

Vicky Blake, president of the University and College Union, says university leaders must join staff and student unions to push the government for “a proper bailout” that would let universities compensate students “without a further decimation of staffing in the sector”.

Blake says that during the crisis universities “pressured students to come to campus under the illusion that it was something approaching normal, when that was never going to be possible”.

However, staff have worked extremely hard to make the new online learning experience work, she says, with many providing more contact hours for students than would have been timetabled in an ordinary year. “Throughout this crisis, teaching and support staff have put in impossible hours to support students, dealing with hugely increased workloads alongside the needs of their own families. Many are on levels of hourly pay that might shock students if they knew.”'

What do you think of the comments made by some university leaders? Do you think it is right that they are calling on the government to offer students a loan rebate, or do you think there is another way? Do you think the Government will listen to their calls?

Let us know your thoughts!
Are the government really listening? Probably most of us will have this wiped off our debt anyway. To be honest I feel that we signed up to pay £9,250 a year for a degree at the end of the day. That's what we are really paying for. Everybody just wants to blame the unis for everything. The lecturers don't want to be teaching online like this? Has anybody stopped to think about that? That's not what they signed up for. Unis will probably pay back a rebate for halls accommodation like many unis did last year. But what about the 2nd years plus....should they be asking for a rebate from their (mainly) private landlords as well then? That's not going to happen - it's the landlords livelihood. So is that fair on the 2nd years plus? There are so many things that we could all debate. The most important thing to get agreed is the Safety Net surely? We all went in knowing what our finance commitments were. We are in a pandemic.
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