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I'm a Y13 and want to move to America. I've been hearing that its very difficult to get a green card to actually permanently move to America. How can i do this? Id only want to go university there if i got into an Ivy which isnt going to happen as whilst im predicted A*A*A I have bad GCSEs. So excluding studying there, how can i move there?
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https://www.usa.gov/green-cards
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So in short the answer is no, I cant move to America. I certainly don't have $500k to invest.
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So in short the answer is no, I cant move to America. I certainly don't have $500k to invest.
Pretty much yeah, it's a non-starter, for now anyway.

Generally countries don't just let any random person in unless they are going to provide something to them, usually either working in a shortage job in that place (all of which require a degree), being sponsored for a working visa for a job there (which in the US requires you be better qualified than any American applicant for the job), or being an entrepreneur or investor with a significant amount of a capital to invest in that country's economy and a plan outlining how you will generate profit with it.

The only other option is going on a temporary visa, like a student visa, which you've indicated is not a possibility.

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I mean we did used to have that free movement with the EU which was an unusual exception, but we all know how that turned out with Brexit ruining any chance of that happening! Unless, again, you have a degree and at least a reasonable (~£10k or so) lump of money in your bank account to prove you aren't going to show up and then immediately depend on the state to support you, plus some outline for what you are going to be doing to that country's benefit while you are there...
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Pretty much yeah, it's a non-starter, for now anyway.

Generally countries don't just let any random person in unless they are going to provide something to them, usually either working in a shortage job in that place (all of which require a degree), being sponsored for a working visa for a job there (which in the US requires you be better qualified than any American applicant for the job), or being an entrepreneur or investor with a significant amount of a capital to invest in that country's economy and a plan outlining how you will generate profit with it.

The only other option is going on a temporary visa, like a student visa, which you've indicated is not a possibility.

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I mean we did used to have that free movement with the EU which was an unusual exception, but we all know how that turned out with Brexit ruining any chance of that happening! Unless, again, you have a degree and at least a reasonable (~£10k or so) lump of money in your bank account to prove you aren't going to show up and then immediately depend on the state to support you, plus some outline for what you are going to be doing to that country's benefit while you are there...
wow, thats pretty sad.
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I'm a Y13 and want to move to America. I've been hearing that its very difficult to get a green card to actually permanently move to America. How can i do this? Id only want to go university there if i got into an Ivy which isnt going to happen as whilst im predicted A*A*A I have bad GCSEs. So excluding studying there, how can i move there?
Have you ever been to the USA? It's better not to start quite so black-and-white. You might end up deciding you aren't so keen on what is a very different work culture when you are there.

What are you going to be doing at uni? Can you access an exchange year or similar? Can you work and save up and then do a masters in the US (maybe aim for something more specialised where the expensive Ivy League unis are not the main places)? Are you heading towards a profession where there's the potential of an inter-office transfer for a period?
Also, what about Canada? Have you looked at their list of skills that they need under their immigration framework? Can you skill yourself up in those?
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Have you ever been to the USA? It's better not to start quite so black-and-white. You might end up deciding you aren't so keen on what is a very different work culture when you are there.

What are you going to be doing at uni? Can you access an exchange year or similar? Can you work and save up and then do a masters in the US (maybe aim for something more specialised where the expensive Ivy League unis are not the main places)? Are you heading towards a profession where there's the potential of an inter-office transfer for a period?
Also, what about Canada? Have you looked at their list of skills that they need under their immigration framework? Can you skill yourself up in those?
I've got an offer for Law at UCL, but with everything going on right now I've decided I don't think id enjoy it. Id be going to the USA for a sport (not sponsored there is just more opportunity in the USA). So im pretty deadest on it unfortunately.

Could I enrol at a not so great university there perhaps, or would that not make me eligible as i know the requirement is something to do with being exceptional in a given field. Also, if I did enrol do i get funding like a student loan. (Sorry, a lot of questions)
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Some US universities may give means tested grants - these vary but often require you to have parents on somewhat low incomes and have few assets. Very hard to get.
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Some US universities may give means tested grants - these vary but often require you to have parents on somewhat low incomes and have few assets. Very hard to get.
well, I would likely qualify for that.
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Some US universities may give means tested grants - these vary but often require you to have parents on somewhat low incomes and have few assets. Very hard to get.
slightly off topics but is there even any point applying to decent universities in the US? ill probably get A*AA, but my GCSEs are very bad, and I know they use a system to create a grade average, in which case mine would be awfully low.
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slightly off topics but is there even any point applying to decent universities in the US? ill probably get A*AA, but my GCSEs are very bad, and I know they use a system to create a grade average, in which case mine would be awfully low.
It depends what you mean by decent. Also by what you are looking to major in. I think there is an organisation which supports people from low income households to apply (Sutton Trust?) - they may be able to assist?
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It depends what you mean by decent. Also by what you are looking to major in. I think there is an organisation which supports people from low income households to apply (Sutton Trust?) - they may be able to assist?
Yeah ive heard of them. Id ideally do law but id also settle for business. And by decent I mean any of the Ivy leagues, hence my worry on not standing a chance
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I've got an offer for Law at UCL, but with everything going on right now I've decided I don't think id enjoy it. Id be going to the USA for a sport (not sponsored there is just more opportunity in the USA). So im pretty deadest on it unfortunately.

Could I enrol at a not so great university there perhaps, or would that not make me eligible as i know the requirement is something to do with being exceptional in a given field. Also, if I did enrol do i get funding like a student loan. (Sorry, a lot of questions)
I'd really recommend you do some research if you are that serious about this.
Student loans are managed very differently in the US to the UK - you're going to need to look at the rules around guarantors and paying them back to see if you could be eligible and understand what is a realistic loan level for you and thus if community or state colleges are a potential way you could afford to study in the US.

A small number of universities are rich enough that their scholarships are based on need only and not based on residency or other statuses. But you are going to need to be exceptional to access those. If sport is your motivation, clearly that's where you need to work to become exceptional.
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Yeah ive heard of them. Id ideally do law but id also settle for business. And by decent I mean any of the Ivy leagues, hence my worry on not standing a chance
Well - you cant do law as an undergrad in the US. Do Ivies offer business as an undergrad? I dunno.

TBH I think unless you have fantastic extracurriculars and time to prep for a stunning SAT score it doesn't look real. There are far more great universities than the Ivies in the US though, but the costs can be huge and funding hard to come by.
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I'd really recommend you do some research if you are that serious about this.
Student loans are managed very differently in the US to the UK - you're going to need to look at the rules around guarantors and paying them back to see if you could be eligible and understand what is a realistic loan level for you and thus if community or state colleges are a potential way you could afford to study in the US.

A small number of universities are rich enough that their scholarships are based on need only and not based on residency or other statuses. But you are going to need to be exceptional to access those. If sport is your motivation, clearly that's where you need to work to become exceptional.
Thanks i appreciate the response. The whole thing is just quite an overwhelming process.
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I've got an offer for Law at UCL, but with everything going on right now I've decided I don't think id enjoy it. Id be going to the USA for a sport (not sponsored there is just more opportunity in the USA). So im pretty deadest on it unfortunately.

Could I enrol at a not so great university there perhaps, or would that not make me eligible as i know the requirement is something to do with being exceptional in a given field. Also, if I did enrol do i get funding like a student loan. (Sorry, a lot of questions)
Course at UCL with a year abroad with routes to US unis https://www.ucl.ac.uk/americas/study...year-abroad-ba
How to transfer courses at UCL https://www.ucl.ac.uk/americas/study...itute-americas
That gives you a year to break into your sport in the US which would then enable you to stay longer if you are exceptional.
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Course at UCL with a year abroad with routes to US unis https://www.ucl.ac.uk/americas/study...year-abroad-ba
How to transfer courses at UCL https://www.ucl.ac.uk/americas/study...itute-americas
That gives you a year to break into your sport in the US which would then enable you to stay longer if you are exceptional.
Thanks so much for this link, there a lot to do but i think this is the perfect start. Now I just need to hope teacher assessed grades dont ruin my plans.
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slightly off topics but is there even any point applying to decent universities in the US? ill probably get A*AA, but my GCSEs are very bad, and I know they use a system to create a grade average, in which case mine would be awfully low.
If you don't mind posting what they are, maybe some of us on here can help you.

I, for example, needed an academic scholarship to be able to afford a US university, so I had to look at universities that were just below places like the Ivy League. Because the US is so large and lots of students want to stay close to home, and because money influences lots of students' decisions, there isn't quite the same hierarchy of clear cut rankings that you get in the UK. You can 100% get a fantastic education outside the Top20s.
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If you don't mind posting what they are, maybe some of us on here can help you.

I, for example, needed an academic scholarship to be able to afford a US university, so I had to look at universities that were just below places like the Ivy League. Because the US is so large and lots of students want to stay close to home, and because money influences lots of students' decisions, there isn't quite the same hierarchy of clear cut rankings that you get in the UK. You can 100% get a fantastic education outside the Top20s.
Hi, I really appreciate the response, and its nice to hear from someone who themselves needed a scholarship. I feel like ive been so lucky to get an offer at UCL that id really want to go to an ivy league, as its just hard to decline UCL and go somewhere that employers might not see as good.

I know next to nothing about the Ivy league in terms of how hard it is to get a place. I'm currently predicted A*A*A, but my GCSEs are poor (no A's albeit with medical extenuating circumstances). Would you be able to give me an idea of places that are in and out of my reach for law? For example would it be a waste of time and money applying to the likes of Princeton and Brown? Would there be much room to explain my medical circumstances that were rectified during A-levels, hence the improvement.
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Hi, I really appreciate the response, and its nice to hear from someone who themselves needed a scholarship. I feel like ive been so lucky to get an offer at UCL that id really want to go to an ivy league, as its just hard to decline UCL and go somewhere that employers might not see as good.

I know next to nothing about the Ivy league in terms of how hard it is to get a place. I'm currently predicted A*A*A, but my GCSEs are poor (no A's albeit with medical extenuating circumstances). Would you be able to give me an idea of places that are in and out of my reach for law? For example would it be a waste of time and money applying to the likes of Princeton and Brown? Would there be much room to explain my medical circumstances that were rectified during A-levels, hence the improvement.
I'm normally an optimist, but without an A at GCSE I'd say that's admission to Princeton or Brown would be about as impossible as it gets, I'm afraid. I don't see you being able to gain admission to a US university that even comes close to UCL - I think you're right to stick with it. And considering you want to do Law which you can't do as an undergrad in the US, that seems to work out perfect!

I really hope you enjoy UCL!!
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