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As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
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Such a bloodbath out there 
omg ! We're almost about to hit the 100k mark of deaths in UK due to Covid ! Gruesome
omg ! We're almost about to hit the 100k mark of deaths in UK due to Covid ! Gruesome
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Such a bloodbath out there omg ! We're almost about to hit the 100k mark of deaths in UK due to Covid ! Gruesome
Such a bloodbath out there
omg ! We're almost about to hit the 100k mark of deaths in UK due to Covid ! Gruesome
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(Original post by Anonymous)
This time last year you’d never think this could happen. Let’s hope these vaccines/lockdowns work
This time last year you’d never think this could happen. Let’s hope these vaccines/lockdowns work
. How do I know we're not gonna have a Mexican coronviruses emergenand enter UK and then make vaccines pointless ? Like I mean, so much tbh feels like just uncertainty, guesswork... Sad
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(Original post by Anonymous)
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
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Pzifer has a lot more complication so far and deaths now recorded in older people. I personally would prefer the Oxford vaccine. The methods used for the Oxford have been used before and tested.. Pzifer has not
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(Original post by Anonymous)
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
But my understanding is both AZ & Pfizer vaccines are extremely strong (near 100%) at preventing serious infection, likely safe with either.
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(Original post by Anonymous)
Pzifer has a lot more complication so far and deaths now recorded in older people. I personally would prefer the Oxford vaccine. The methods used for the Oxford have been used before and tested.. Pzifer has not
Pzifer has a lot more complication so far and deaths now recorded in older people. I personally would prefer the Oxford vaccine. The methods used for the Oxford have been used before and tested.. Pzifer has not
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(Original post by setarexhx)
Confirmed deaths from pfizer vaccine? Where did you get that from
Confirmed deaths from pfizer vaccine? Where did you get that from
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(Original post by setarexhx)
Confirmed deaths from pfizer vaccine? Where did you get that from
Confirmed deaths from pfizer vaccine? Where did you get that from
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(Original post by gw07mcgheerachel)
Its on the new 23 deaths in Norway 1 in France
Its on the new 23 deaths in Norway 1 in France
Need to be careful to separate those who have died despite having had the vaccine as you have to remember the priority list is to the most vulnerable people who are (unfortunately) likely to keel over due to one of many factors so if we’re talking a handful of deaths out of hundreds of thousands or millions of doses it could be statistically normal.
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(Original post by mnot)
Do you have an article from a trusted source about this?
Need to be careful to separate those who have died despite having had the vaccine as you have to remember the priority list is to the most vulnerable people who are (unfortunately) likely to keel over due to one of many factors so if we’re talking a handful of deaths out of hundreds of thousands or millions of doses it could be statistically normal.
Do you have an article from a trusted source about this?
Need to be careful to separate those who have died despite having had the vaccine as you have to remember the priority list is to the most vulnerable people who are (unfortunately) likely to keel over due to one of many factors so if we’re talking a handful of deaths out of hundreds of thousands or millions of doses it could be statistically normal.
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Pfizer if it was used properly, the basis of 95% efficacy is based on 3 weeks between the doses, however the government changed it 3 months where there is no evidence of sustained immunity. Pfizer and WHO are against the UK choice of dosing as there no evidence of the 95% efficacy of immunity with a 2-3 month gap as opposed to 3 weeks. The UK government are doing a trial on the public with this dosing change, basically guinea pigs.
I chose Oxford Vaccine because it shows 100% efficacy in the sense that no one became seriously ill or died post vaccine. And since it using the adenoviral vector instead of mRNA which is used before in the flu vaccines and has evidence of 2-3 months gap between the doses with proven immunity.
Had the UK government not chnaged the dosing regime which caused the cancellations of many HCP second dose i wouldve picked pfizer so instead i took the oxford vaccine myself
I chose Oxford Vaccine because it shows 100% efficacy in the sense that no one became seriously ill or died post vaccine. And since it using the adenoviral vector instead of mRNA which is used before in the flu vaccines and has evidence of 2-3 months gap between the doses with proven immunity.
Had the UK government not chnaged the dosing regime which caused the cancellations of many HCP second dose i wouldve picked pfizer so instead i took the oxford vaccine myself
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(Original post by mnot)
So the efficacy is slightly stronger at preventing the disease with Pfizer.
But my understanding is both AZ & Pfizer vaccines are extremely strong (near 100%) at preventing serious infection, likely safe with either.
So the efficacy is slightly stronger at preventing the disease with Pfizer.
But my understanding is both AZ & Pfizer vaccines are extremely strong (near 100%) at preventing serious infection, likely safe with either.
I guess with the Pfizer though it was meant to have a 3 week gap but in reality it will probably have 12 weeks now and it’s questionably how the effectiveness will fare
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(Original post by BiafranPharm)
Pfizer if it was used properly, the basis of 95% efficacy is based on 3 weeks between the doses, however the government changed it 3 months where there is no evidence of sustained immunity. Pfizer and WHO are against the UK choice of dosing as there no evidence of the 95% efficacy of immunity with a 2-3 month gap as opposed to 3 weeks. The UK government are doing a trial on the public with this dosing change, basically guinea pigs.
I chose Oxford Vaccine because it shows 100% efficacy in the sense that no one became seriously ill or died post vaccine. And since it using the adenoviral vector instead of mRNA which is used before in the flu vaccines and has evidence of 2-3 months gap between the doses with proven immunity.
Had the UK government not chnaged the dosing regime which caused the cancellations of many HCP second dose i wouldve picked pfizer so instead i took the oxford vaccine myself
Pfizer if it was used properly, the basis of 95% efficacy is based on 3 weeks between the doses, however the government changed it 3 months where there is no evidence of sustained immunity. Pfizer and WHO are against the UK choice of dosing as there no evidence of the 95% efficacy of immunity with a 2-3 month gap as opposed to 3 weeks. The UK government are doing a trial on the public with this dosing change, basically guinea pigs.
I chose Oxford Vaccine because it shows 100% efficacy in the sense that no one became seriously ill or died post vaccine. And since it using the adenoviral vector instead of mRNA which is used before in the flu vaccines and has evidence of 2-3 months gap between the doses with proven immunity.
Had the UK government not chnaged the dosing regime which caused the cancellations of many HCP second dose i wouldve picked pfizer so instead i took the oxford vaccine myself
Did you have a choice then?
I have mine booked tomorrow I’m unsure which one it will be
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(Original post by Anonymous)
Thanks. I thought the Oxford was something like 65 - 70 percent effective after 2 doses.
I guess with the Pfizer though it was meant to have a 3 week gap but in reality it will probably have 12 weeks now and it’s questionably how the effectiveness will fare
Thanks. I thought the Oxford was something like 65 - 70 percent effective after 2 doses.
I guess with the Pfizer though it was meant to have a 3 week gap but in reality it will probably have 12 weeks now and it’s questionably how the effectiveness will fare
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(Original post by Anonymous)
True that’s what I was thinking.
Did you have a choice then?
I have mine booked tomorrow I’m unsure which one it will be
True that’s what I was thinking.
Did you have a choice then?
I have mine booked tomorrow I’m unsure which one it will be
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(Original post by Anonymous)
This time last year you’d never think this could happen. Let’s hope these vaccines/lockdowns work
This time last year you’d never think this could happen. Let’s hope these vaccines/lockdowns work
To answer your question: The Oxford one is also older technology, with lots of other safe vaccines tested using it in previous years. The pfizer one is completely new, albeit highly promising tech.
The Pfizer one was designed and made to make a profit, by which i mean, they tested it only as it was exactly intended to be used (as if it was being bought by an individual customer). Oxford was always aiming to make a vaccine that would be used worldwide, so did broader testing anticipating that it might not be used exactly correctly. So it has evidence if you use them 12 weeks apart, and if you use alternate dosing, and early evidence that it reduces transmission.
However, it is still very likely the the Pfizer one will also reduce transmission, and likely that 12 weekly dosing will be effective, based on how other vaccines . But we don't have that data yet. Based on one dose, the Pfizer one was about 90% effective, but the concern would be how long that will last.
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(Original post by Anonymous)
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
As a healthcare NHS worker is it better to get the Pfizer or the Oxford vaccine?
Ive heard the first provides a lot more protection on a individual basis.
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