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My friend goes to a PRU in England they offer GCSEs and such. But she is only taking four GCSEs. I checked the website out and heard the PRU is applying for academic status to become an academy. I just wondering can an PRU and I knows it’s a PRU since I checked the government website become an academy. Also I don’t much about PRU’s at all. My parents told me that people that go to PRU are badly behaved or can’t cope in a mainstream environment. My parents also told me that going to a PRU is on your record forever and it could effect issues such as employment and such. Also could effect whether or not you can go to a good mainstream school or could effect university applications and such because People that go to PRU are considered ill mannered just wondering if any of the things my parents told me are true. Also if going to a PRU is damaging to your future as it’s on your permanent record forever and very bad choice to make. Me myself was offered a place at a PRU but then a mainstream setting offered me a place and opted for the mainstream setting as I didn’t want it on my record that I went to a PRU due to what my parents have informed me about it.
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Hi There,

Below is a short list of reasons someone may be referred to a PRU, not all of which are behaviour related:

  • permanently excluded from their mainstream school for behaviour reasons, or at risk of permanent exclusion.
  • experiencing emotional or behavioural difficulties, including problems with anger, mental health issues, and school phobia/refusal.
  • experiencing severe bullying.
  • diagnosed with special educational needs (SEN), or in the process of getting a diagnosis.
  • suffering from a short- or long-term illness that makes mainstream school unsuitable.
  • a new starter who missed out on a school place.
  • pregnant or young mothers.

Source:TheSchoolRun

Attending a PRU isn't an education "death sentence" so to say. The aim of a PRU is to allow the student to reintegrate with mainstream education, so your friend may not have to attend the PRU for the entirety of their studies. Perhaps talk to your friend and see if they'll discuss the reasons with you. They may be open to your friendship!

Let me know if you have any questions
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(Original post by ONatusch)
Hi There,

Below is a short list of reasons someone may be referred to a PRU, not all of which are behaviour related:

  • permanently excluded from their mainstream school for behaviour reasons, or at risk of permanent exclusion.
  • experiencing emotional or behavioural difficulties, including problems with anger, mental health issues, and school phobia/refusal.
  • experiencing severe bullying.
  • diagnosed with special educational needs (SEN), or in the process of getting a diagnosis.
  • suffering from a short- or long-term illness that makes mainstream school unsuitable.
  • a new starter who missed out on a school place.
  • pregnant or young mothers.

Source:TheSchoolRun

Attending a PRU isn't an education "death sentence" so to say. The aim of a PRU is to allow the student to reintegrate with mainstream education, so your friend may not have to attend the PRU for the entirety of their studies. Perhaps talk to your friend and see if they'll discuss the reasons with you. They may be open to your friendship!

Let me know if you have any questions
I have a question does a PRU go on your permanent record that may affect whether you get a job or something or maybe a university placement. Also I know that sixth formers and colleges look at your school record would going to a PRU affect that. I know it’s a death sentence but I know that from I gather from my parents it’s very hard to get a mainstream school after going to a PRU and if you end up staying until GCSE’s like my friend is they may be reluctant to offer you a place thinking you may not be able to cope.
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My friend goes to a PRU in England they offer GCSEs and such. But she is only taking four GCSEs. I checked the website out and heard the PRU is applying for academic status to become an academy. I just wondering can an PRU and I knows it’s a PRU since I checked the government website become an academy. Also I don’t much about PRU’s at all. My parents told me that people that go to PRU are badly behaved or can’t cope in a mainstream environment. My parents also told me that going to a PRU is on your record forever and it could effect issues such as employment and such. Also could effect whether or not you can go to a good mainstream school or could effect university applications and such because People that go to PRU are considered ill mannered just wondering if any of the things my parents told me are true. Also if going to a PRU is damaging to your future as it’s on your permanent record forever and very bad choice to make. Me myself was offered a place at a PRU but then a mainstream setting offered me a place and opted for the mainstream setting as I didn’t want it on my record that I went to a PRU due to what my parents have informed me about it.
Yeah they are **** holes. A tiny percentage of pupils that attend them achieve their GCSEs.

Unless your friend is persistent trouble maker whom has been expelled from multiple schools the aim generally is to reintegrate pupils back into mainstream education.

You generally don't have to tell employees all the schools that you have intended. I attended a school in a psychiatric hospital for instance and I will be certainly skirting around that on my CV.
Attending a PRU doesn't get record on your police record, it will not be disclosed to employers.
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Yeah they are **** holes. A tiny percentage of pupils that attend them achieve their GCSEs.

Unless your friend is persistent trouble maker whom has been expelled from multiple schools the aim generally is to reintegrate pupils back into mainstream education.

You generally don't have to tell employees all the schools that you have intended. I attended a school in a psychiatric hospital for instance and I will be certainly skirting around that on my CV.
Attending a PRU doesn't get record on your police record, it will not be disclosed to employers.
Those a-holes as you put it are kids, children, who don't fit the one size fits all comprehensive education system. And as for behaviour, do you not wonder what has happened to a child in their life that means they don't know how to control themselves. Babies are not born naughty.

But either way, Prus are not necessarily a permanent resting place for kids. Since they have the specialist staff and higher student / staff ratios, children with various issues and problems often find them useful places to recentre before going back into mainstream.
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Those a-holes as you put it are kids, children, who don't fit the one size fits all comprehensive education system. And as for behaviour, do you not wonder what has happened to a child in their life that means they don't know how to control themselves. Babies are not born naughty.

But either way, Prus are not necessarily a permanent resting place for kids. Since they have the specialist staff and higher student / staff ratios, children with various issues and problems often find them useful places to recentre before going back into mainstream.
I was specifically commenting on the PRUs themselves, not the pupils that attend them. I think you knew that already though.

It might be worth reading back through what I said.
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Those a-holes as you put it are kids, children, who don't fit the one size fits all comprehensive education system. And as for behaviour, do you not wonder what has happened to a child in their life that means they don't know how to control themselves. Babies are not born naughty.

But either way, Prus are not necessarily a permanent resting place for kids. Since they have the specialist staff and higher student / staff ratios, children with various issues and problems often find them useful places to recentre before going back into mainstream.
I seem to recall that you are teacher.
Maybe you could advise OP on if going to a PRU effects university and sixth form applications.

Save the self righteous monologue, if you can help it.
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Hi There,

Below is a short list of reasons someone may be referred to a PRU, not all of which are behaviour related:

  • permanently excluded from their mainstream school for behaviour reasons, or at risk of permanent exclusion.
  • experiencing emotional or behavioural difficulties, including problems with anger, mental health issues, and school phobia/refusal.
  • experiencing severe bullying.
  • diagnosed with special educational needs (SEN), or in the process of getting a diagnosis.
  • suffering from a short- or long-term illness that makes mainstream school unsuitable.
  • a new starter who missed out on a school place.
  • pregnant or young mothers.

Source:TheSchoolRun

Attending a PRU isn't an education "death sentence" so to say. The aim of a PRU is to allow the student to reintegrate with mainstream education, so your friend may not have to attend the PRU for the entirety of their studies. Perhaps talk to your friend and see if they'll discuss the reasons with you. They may be open to your friendship!

Let me know if you have any questions
I agree.
Employers etc will not know unless you tell them. It does not go on your records.
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There may not be a better solution than PRUs, but they certainly do no good. They serve to bring together people who will either come into conflict (possibly violently) or extend one anothers' criminal networks and expand criminal skillsets.

There is no point looking backward into causes. These are often beyond the control of anyone.
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I seem to recall that you are teacher.
Maybe you could advise OP on if going to a PRU effects university and sixth form applications.

Save the self righteous monologue, if you can help it.
Not necessarily. I think the problem PRUs have is that people stereotype and pigeon hole the students who attend them. PRUs are generally not long term schools for students hence their name - referral units. They provide the sort of help and support students can't get in mainstream with the goal being that when students have had that space and support, they can be reintegrated back into mainstream.
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Not necessarily. I think the problem PRUs have is that people stereotype and pigeon hole the students who attend them. PRUs are generally not long term schools for students hence their name - referral units. They provide the sort of help and support students can't get in mainstream with the goal being that when students have had that space and support, they can be reintegrated back into mainstream.
Umm OK.
This is utterly bizarre.......
Can a sixth form/ college turn a prospective pupil down on the basis of attending a PRU?
Can/ would a University not offer a student a place soley on the basis of that they had attended a PRU?

If you don't know the answer, fine, I will think of someone else to ask for OP.
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