Orthadontist Work On The NHS :( Really Depressed

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I am really down and depressed at the moment.

I am 23 and my teeth are a bit of a mess. They have been a bit crooked since I was younger.

I went to have braces when I was younger, but my dad missed an appointment (because they forgot to send a card out in the post) and they stopped the treatment and put me back on the waiting list. I waited until I was 16 and then they lost my new X-Rays and it was all a mess.

Now the NHS are refusing to treat me. The only option I have is private, but I cannot afford that at the moment. It really gets me down. On the outside I am an attractive lad, but my teeth let me down and I just wish they was straight.

I have seen my doctor about this because it has got me very depressed the last few months, to the point of feeling suicidal. My self confidence is getting worse and I can't even go clubbing anymore because I feel like crap.

I have a counselling session tomorrow, but that won't help because she can't fix my teeth.

I was bullied at school because of my teeth aswell, which ended in me leaving in year 10. I had to go college at 22 and work hard to get into University.

My current dentist is an a**. He listens to nothing I say and said I need to pay for cosmetic treatment. How is it cosmetic when I have trouble eating with my teeth the way they are? He gave me tablets because he thinks I had an infection. How! I have this problem for years and you pass it of as an infection.

I am just sick of it all now. Its easy to say cheer up, or look foward, but its not easy when my teeth have been the cause of so much emotional problems in the past.
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I really feel for you and just wish i could give you some good, solid advice. I do understand how you feel. I spent many years bulimic, which eventually BADLY affected my teeth and my confidence. (i had no idea that flouride attacked the acids on tooth enamel after being sick). I could not get an NHS dentist either, as they said it was cosmetic. Suppose it was in a way, but i was in awful pain and my teeth were crumbling and bits falling out all the time! I had to take a live-in job and do it constantly until i had enough dosh to go private, but at the time , my circumstances allowed for that.

Do dental universities do so-called 'cosmetic' treatment? I know they can do extractions etc, but surely they need to practice tratment for more complicated work? Its awful not having the huge whack of dispensible income to pay for dental treatment. I currently need some work done, but have no chance whatsoever. Maybe if you make a point of telling the counsellor how badly you are being affected, they can work something out for you? I have read articles on how women have had nhs boob jobs, after explaining to their counsellor how badly their confidence was affected by having little boobs. In my opinion, teeth which don't hurt are alot more important - and that's coming from someone with small boobs!
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Unfortuantly orthodontics are private over the age of 18. I had braces at 14 after having a canine literally grow under my cheek. But when my parents signed the forms for NHS orthodontics treatment I noticed the brace treatment only being about £400 paid by state, private clear braces cost around £1000.
However there may be some way like the previous poster said about enquiring about dental work because of the fact you ie think it prevents you from getting work, etc... (very good example to base an argument on)write to your local NHS and see where this gets you, if not find another dentist, there are much nicer ones there.

Orthodontics is not practised by students at university, to be an orthodontist you need to be a dentist (5 years) then do another postgraduate degree so infact most orthodontists are not the students who practise on people... as far as I know.

OP the best thing to do would be to post a similar thread in a medical forum if you could find one, then you would find legal advice from people with knowledge. As we know it the NHS is viable to certain things.
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(Original post by Anonymous)
I am really down and depressed at the moment.

I am 23 and my teeth are a bit of a mess. They have been a bit crooked since I was younger.

I went to have braces when I was younger, but my dad missed an appointment (because they forgot to send a card out in the post) and they stopped the treatment and put me back on the waiting list. I waited until I was 16 and then they lost my new X-Rays and it was all a mess.

Now the NHS are refusing to treat me. The only option I have is private, but I cannot afford that at the moment. It really gets me down. On the outside I am an attractive lad, but my teeth let me down and I just wish they was straight.

I have seen my doctor about this because it has got me very depressed the last few months, to the point of feeling suicidal. My self confidence is getting worse and I can't even go clubbing anymore because I feel like crap.

I have a counselling session tomorrow, but that won't help because she can't fix my teeth.

I was bullied at school because of my teeth aswell, which ended in me leaving in year 10. I had to go college at 22 and work hard to get into University.

My current dentist is an a**. He listens to nothing I say and said I need to pay for cosmetic treatment. How is it cosmetic when I have trouble eating with my teeth the way they are? He gave me tablets because he thinks I had an infection. How! I have this problem for years and you pass it of as an infection.

I am just sick of it all now. Its easy to say cheer up, or look foward, but its not easy when my teeth have been the cause of so much emotional problems in the past.
I'm sympathetic to a point, but dont feel you should have cosmetic treatment.
I am int he same positon as you. My teeth are awfully crooked. They are because as a child i never bothered with the dentist - and my family never forced me.

But do i think others should pay so i look better? No. Its no different than someone with a hideously ugly nose demanding a free nose job, or a woman with disproportionately tiny boobs getting inplants.
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You can get payment plans for private dentistry if thats any help, to spread the cost. It's what I'm currently doing.
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(Original post by Anonymous)
I am really down and depressed at the moment.

I am 23 and my teeth are a bit of a mess. They have been a bit crooked since I was younger.

I went to have braces when I was younger, but my dad missed an appointment (because they forgot to send a card out in the post) and they stopped the treatment and put me back on the waiting list. I waited until I was 16 and then they lost my new X-Rays and it was all a mess.

Now the NHS are refusing to treat me. The only option I have is private, but I cannot afford that at the moment. It really gets me down. On the outside I am an attractive lad, but my teeth let me down and I just wish they was straight.

I have seen my doctor about this because it has got me very depressed the last few months, to the point of feeling suicidal. My self confidence is getting worse and I can't even go clubbing anymore because I feel like crap.

I have a counselling session tomorrow, but that won't help because she can't fix my teeth.

I was bullied at school because of my teeth aswell, which ended in me leaving in year 10. I had to go college at 22 and work hard to get into University.

My current dentist is an a**. He listens to nothing I say and said I need to pay for cosmetic treatment. How is it cosmetic when I have trouble eating with my teeth the way they are? He gave me tablets because he thinks I had an infection. How! I have this problem for years and you pass it of as an infection.

I am just sick of it all now. Its easy to say cheer up, or look foward, but its not easy when my teeth have been the cause of so much emotional problems in the past.
I have had a similar problem with my trust be *********. The way I delt with it:

a) I wrote to my local MP, in great depth.

This helped. Make sure you keep hold of all the correspondance you had between you and your trust. It sounds like their grounds of not letting you have treatment is ********, orthodontics as a whole could be considered cosmetic.

Failing the above, I would have went to the press, went to an opposition MP with my case.
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nvm.
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Oh My God, you are me, but male, lol.

I had a bike accident aged 8 and since then have had major problems with my teeth, i completely lost the front two and have had a lot of orthodontic work. I was still recieving treatment till about a year and a half ago. They were frustrated with me because my gums kept bleeding (due to unrelated health issues),and they sent letters through to my home address for apointments when i was at uni meaning i didn't open them until it was too late. By consequence i had a letter to say they were discharging me from the service for being non-compliant. My MUm keeps telling me to ring up and try to negotiate with them as there is no way i can afford to go private, but i am just so down about the whole thing now that i can't bring myself to make the call. I feel like i have given up.

I cannot really explain to you how much impact all this has had upon my confidence and self esteem. I have been and am still very depressed about it all, was bullied at school too. Pm me if you want to talk. x
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So basically they have been offering you every opportunity, but you are too much of a douche to
a) Change your registered address with them
b) Call them up to let them know the problem.


"God helps those who help themselves"
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(Original post by Jamie)
So basically they have been offering you every opportunity, but you are too much of a douche to
a) Change your registered address with them
b) Call them up to let them know the problem.


"God helps those who help themselves"
Are you talking to me?

Until you have been so depressed that getting out of bed in the morning takes all your effort then please do not judge me. As i said there were other issues associated with the fact my gums were bleeding and which led to me avoiding apointments. I don't need someone like you to tell me i have been stupid by not phoning them, i already know that.
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Phone up your dentist surgery and tell them you want to make a complaint and who do you speak/write to about it. Also ask to be transferred to another dentist,if possible, within that practice.

Im currently having orthodontic treatment and trust me its not cheap but will be worth it for nice teeth.

I paid 75 pounds for consulation, 120 for the removal of 4 teeth by my dentsist and for the braces 2000 and complaince charge of 12 pounds.

Complain all you can why should you pay for their irresponsibilty but be prepared you might have to pay for it cosmetic. If you cant afford this maybe save up for a year or two first and theres always payment plans within certian private practices. Good luck.
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When I was young I had very bad teeth and I was nicknamed 'goofy' ken dodd etc. School was pretty bad for those few years . In the end I went to an orthodontist and when my mum was told how long it would take on the NHS , the orthodontist told her because of my age at the time when I did come up on the list the treatment might be more invasive including an operation on my jaw.


So my mum went private and it cost an arm and a leg. I needed two different types of braces and headgear. Funny thing was despite me looking like Jaws in james bond , I stopped getting picked on for some reason . After about two or three years my teeth were perfect. But a lot of work was done on my teeth and it was a hassle, painful and a lot of money.

But I was seriously greatful to my mum and Dad as they were not that well off. If I was the OP it might be worth speaking to their GP again and really make the case it is affecting you psychologically.Because I was reading an outrage article in the Daily Mail a while back and it mentioned women and men ! have breast reductions and *******s having sex changes on the NHS so it might be worth trying that route again i don't know.
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(Original post by Jamie)
So basically they have been offering you every opportunity, but you are too much of a douche to
a) Change your registered address with them
b) Call them up to let them know the problem.


"God helps those who help themselves"

Oi it sounds like he/she is at a bit of a low point no point rubbing it in.Wind it in son.

Aren't you the one going into the 'caring profession'? , ha ha.
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i had the skankiest teeth ever and i hated it but after i had braces put on i noticed the difference after two days its well worth i'd save up for it if i was you!!!
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Oi it sounds like he/she is at a bit of a low point no point rubbing it in.Wind it in son.

Aren't you the one going into the 'caring profession'? , ha ha.
Nope, besides there are more than enough people out there who are unable to look after themselves without spending time on effort on those who are unWILLING to look after themselves.
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By your all knowing definition then, what passes as an 'inability' and not merely unwillingness? You could end up insulting a hell of a lot of people there. No one is completely powerless unless they are literally a vegetable, but things such as mental illness can very much be an amalgamation of the two. I don't think it is too much to ask that you don't assume my own reasoning behind certain actions or lack of until you have experienced what i, or indeed the OP have.
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Please help no men want toto with me cause of my teeth they have mainly crowns .and in. Desperate need to find help to get in plants upper and lower.
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Hello I am really suffering real bad anxiety disorder and depression and most off it is due to my teeth I have sucked my thumb since I was really little and gave up doing that when I turned 12 bad I know but now I have a big gap and it is really knocking my confidence and self esteem and I have been suicidal a few times due to it all I really don't know why it is going to cost me so much money just to help with my confidence and self esteem and to help me stop feeling so anxious all the time I really need help and guidance to find somewhere or someone that can point me to the right direction to get help with this matter I just want to feel beautiful in myself and feel tired off hating how I look everyday is a battle in my brain and I'm getting tired off it so anyone there from Kent uk can u give me advice
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Babe im the same PM me
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Make appoitment with your dentist tell them how you feel . If they wont give you the treatment. you can write complain to GDS if that wont help contact citizen advice. Make sure you can get treatment you really need and make sure that you actually do need it first. Prove them that there is emotional and physical reasons behind it - which is health reason. You need to know what you fight for.https://www.bos.org.uk/Public-Patien.../orthodontics/
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