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Hey guys, as you may know recently the EU have been treathening to ban vaccine exports to the uk and yesterday they have given themselves power to contol the export. What do you all think about this? What effects do you think would cause here? Personally, I believe this is very wrong of the EU. They should not be bitter about getting less vaccines than the UK after placing the order 3 months after us- if this continue then we might not be able to vaccinate the population as planned, and everything would fall back by around 2 months. It's sad that they're probably doing this because of the brexit deal.
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Well so far they have backed down they need to keep UK on good terms incase they need supplies of the AZ vaccine and Novavax both which will be made here hence they definitely dont want to annoy the UK too much.
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Well so far they have backed down they need to keep UK on good terms incase they need supplies of the AZ vaccine and Novavax both which will be made here hence they definitely dont want to annoy the UK too much.
true, it was a stupididea in the first plave imo
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The EU has shown itself to not only be ineffective, but also dangerous .
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The EU has shown itself to not only be ineffective, but also dangerous .
"dangerous" how exactly? Dangerous like the British government turning the UK into a re-export hub for the virus? Theres a good reason many countries wont allow flights from the UK near them.
Point being dont throw stones in glass houses.
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"dangerous" how exactly? Dangerous like the British government turning the UK into a re-export hub for the virus? Theres a good reason many countries wont allow flights from the UK near them.
Point being dont throw stones in glass houses.
How have we re-exported the virus exactly?

All indications are that the route for the U.K. virus was from Italy, Spain and France.


Dangerous as in delaying vaccination approval.
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How have we re-exported the virus exactly?

All indications are that the route for the U.K. virus was from Italy, Spain and France.


Dangerous as in delaying vaccination approval.
Seriously? Have you not seen the number of cases that have flown out of Britain? Dozens of cases arrived in NZL from the UK for a start, and that was despite our borders being closed.

I think youre talking about a different point. Either way, no one can dispute the UK has played a leading role in spreading the virus through the transit hub of Heathrow.

Doing their own due diligence is hardly "dangerous". Questionably slow perhaps but what would be dangerous is simply approving drugs because Britain has without doing their own research on it. Its called best practice, whether its efficient or not.
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Seriously? Have you not seen the number of cases that have flown out of Britain? Dozens of cases arrived in NZL from the UK for a start, and that was despite our borders being closed.

I think youre talking about a different point. Either way, no one can dispute the UK has played a leading role in spreading the virus through the transit hub of Heathrow.

Doing their own due diligence is hardly "dangerous". Questionably slow perhaps but what would be dangerous is simply approving drugs because Britain has without doing their own research on it. Its called best practice, whether its efficient or not.
Cases have flown in to Britain as well as out.
That’s the joys of a pandemic, it’s transmits through people.

Is it my fault that the U.K. is a global transport hub?

The U.K. has a lot of cases. Equally, we also do a awful lot more testing than most country’s do, therefore that can skew results.

Each country can take its own decision on whether or not to close its borders. Several EU nations closed their borders to even EU country’s. That’s why lockdowns are in place.

You can’t exactly Point the finger and say ‘it’s the UKs fault.

neww Zealand is a different issue. Does travel play a part in spreading it? Most definitely. Is New Zealand. Densely populated country? No.

Does New Zealand have an older population than the U.K.? No.
Does New Zealand have a healthier population than the U.K.? Yes
Does New Zealand have more multi multi generational, multi occupancy houses than the U.K.? Yes.

Lots of factors at play. It’s a pandemic. You/we/the world is not safe until people are vaccinated against it.

Slow in situations like this means dangerous. Three country’s have excelled in vaccine rollouts because they cut out the bureaucracy. The EU kept it in place and delayed sign off for 3 months haggling over liability and cost. That 3 month delay has now cost lives. Cried ‘vaccine nationalism’ whilst planning to stop exports of vaccines and then demand 17% of global production for 5% of the worlds population .

Ironically, the EU seems to be having a hissy fit about the only vaccine that’s being manufactured not for profit, and is now criticising it.

Macron’s comments were rather funny. He’s relying on scientists who couldn’t develop their own vaccines telling him that the not for profit vaccine isn’t that great.

There’s kitty play here, but as we’ve seen politics, profits and national prestige is at play.
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