Electric cars only 2030?

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medichope8
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So they r banning petrol car and hybrid car SALES from 2030 but does that mean u can still drive one if u have it and can’t afford to buy a new electric one?
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Moved to the Cars and Motoring forum
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(Original post by studybuddy1302)
So they r banning petrol car and hybrid car SALES from 2030 but does that mean u can still drive one if u have it and can’t afford to buy a new electric one?
It's the sale of NEW ICE cars, not ALL ICE cars.
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(Original post by studybuddy1302)
So they r banning petrol car and hybrid car SALES from 2030 but does that mean u can still drive one if u have it and can’t afford to buy a new electric one?
It will be new sales.

additionally what an electric car is yet to be defined
you have
BEV battery electric vehicle
BEV+RE battery electric vehicle + range extender
FCEV fuel cell electric vehicle
HEV hybrid electric vehicle
PHEV plug-in hybrid electric vehicle
MHEV mild hybrid electric vehicle

by 2030 we will likely see all consumer vehicle sales electrified in some manor but probably not limited to BEV, instead we will see a range of solutions adopted for different vehicle classifications.
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We'll prob just backtrack on it anyway
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(Original post by StriderHort)
We'll prob just backtrack on it anyway
As a petrolhead, I really hope so. Even the fastest EV just feels like a soulless appliance next to a half decent ICE car.
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So they r banning petrol car and hybrid car SALES from 2030 but does that mean u can still drive one if u have it and can’t afford to buy a new electric one?
No. "they" will come and take away any car that isn't electric at midnight on December 31st 2029 and you'll receive a voucher in the post to buy a new, shiny electric vehicle.
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What are the pros/cons of using electric over gas/petrol cars? It is better for long term investment?
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What are the pros/cons of using electric over gas/petrol cars? It is better for long term investment?
It's better for the environment.
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It's better for the environment.
Debatable.

Given the energy density of typical lithium based electrochemical storage and the sizes of battery needed in large cars with higher load cycle requirements pushing required battery sizes to like 100 kW/h it would requires the vehicles to travel roughly 60,000 miles just to break even with a traditional ICE equivalent and that assumes the grid is 100% green which is also far from true.

Additionally we have seen the emergence of alternative combustion techniques increasing the efficiency of traditional combustion engines, and the work being done to promote biofuels such as high ethanol blends, hydrogen, biogases etc. is just taking off which could lead high level net carbon reductions in road transport.

EVs make sense in small class A & B (some class C) cars but are definitely not the best for the environment across the board that is a misnomer. But having a pragmatic discussion about all types of vehicles doesn't suit the agenda of the day.
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