Keir Starmer is the most competitive Labour candidate since Tony Blair
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#22
(Original post by AidenPearce2020)
I respect your opinions! Although starmer is influential, he’s still not got the entire party behind him
I respect your opinions! Although starmer is influential, he’s still not got the entire party behind him
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#24
(Original post by imlikeahermit)
Honestly, it’s the party that needs to change. Let Corbyn’s rad left move off and create their own party and take Diane Abbott and Bell Riberio with them.
Honestly, it’s the party that needs to change. Let Corbyn’s rad left move off and create their own party and take Diane Abbott and Bell Riberio with them.
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#25
If he doesn't win thousands of council seats in May he should go.
He has barely laid a glove on the Tories in the past ten months. Says it all.
All he seems to do is support the Tories on just about everything.
He has barely laid a glove on the Tories in the past ten months. Says it all.
All he seems to do is support the Tories on just about everything.
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#27
(Original post by DSilva)
If he doesn't win thousands of council seats in May he should go.
Dreadful leader.
If he doesn't win thousands of council seats in May he should go.
Dreadful leader.
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#29
He's basically turned the Labour Party into a spare Tory party.
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#30
(Original post by DSilva)
Don't get why you dislike him.
He's basically turned the Labour Party into a spare Tory party.
Don't get why you dislike him.
He's basically turned the Labour Party into a spare Tory party.
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#31
(Original post by jackmarshal757)
A complete lie, that only exposes how far left you are though
A complete lie, that only exposes how far left you are though
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#32
(Original post by DSilva)
If he doesn't win thousands of council seats in May he should go.
He has barely laid a glove on the Tories in the past ten months. Says it all.
All he seems to do is support the Tories on just about everything.
If he doesn't win thousands of council seats in May he should go.
He has barely laid a glove on the Tories in the past ten months. Says it all.
All he seems to do is support the Tories on just about everything.
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#33
(Original post by DSilva)
Nope. I'm pretty centre left. Hence I don't want a right winger as Labour leader.
Nope. I'm pretty centre left. Hence I don't want a right winger as Labour leader.
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#34
(Original post by imlikeahermit)
We are in the middle of a global pandemic. You’re deluded if you think that swinging opposition punches at this time is the correct strategy in the eyes of the majority of the public. The public want an opposition yes, but they don’t want to see the usual cat fighting at this time. Any attempt to do that would make Starmer look tremendously petty, which I assume he is well aware of.
We are in the middle of a global pandemic. You’re deluded if you think that swinging opposition punches at this time is the correct strategy in the eyes of the majority of the public. The public want an opposition yes, but they don’t want to see the usual cat fighting at this time. Any attempt to do that would make Starmer look tremendously petty, which I assume he is well aware of.
Like when they supported the eat out to help out or the easing of restrictions for Christmas.
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#35
(Original post by DSilva)
Pointing out the very obvious errors which have made the impact of the pandemic much worse is not petty.
Like when they supported the eat out to help out or the easing of restrictions for Christmas.
Pointing out the very obvious errors which have made the impact of the pandemic much worse is not petty.
Like when they supported the eat out to help out or the easing of restrictions for Christmas.
The later is not something you can credibly oppose from the off. The people who don't care about Christmas are already voting Labour.
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#36
(Original post by Rakas21)
The former is a case that's not really left-right, we had very low cases and restaurants were struggling.
The later is not something you can credibly oppose from the off. The people who don't care about Christmas are already voting Labour.
The former is a case that's not really left-right, we had very low cases and restaurants were struggling.
The later is not something you can credibly oppose from the off. The people who don't care about Christmas are already voting Labour.
Can you name a single time Starmer has really had the Tories on the back foot? Piers Morgan has, Marcus Rashford has, even Ed Miliband did.
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#37
(Original post by jackmarshal757)
Well Starmer is most definitely not right wing
Well Starmer is most definitely not right wing
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#38
(Original post by DSilva)
Both of which made the pandemic much worse. And also Labour supported keeping schools open even though the science was strongly against it. The public overwhelmingly backed closing schools (over 70% did). It would have been such an easy win for Labour, but instead they rushed to support the Tories. So when the inevitable u-turn came Labour got absolutely no credit.
Can you name a single time Starmer has really had the Tories on the back foot? Piers Morgan has, Marcus Rashford has, even Ed Miliband did.
Both of which made the pandemic much worse. And also Labour supported keeping schools open even though the science was strongly against it. The public overwhelmingly backed closing schools (over 70% did). It would have been such an easy win for Labour, but instead they rushed to support the Tories. So when the inevitable u-turn came Labour got absolutely no credit.
Can you name a single time Starmer has really had the Tories on the back foot? Piers Morgan has, Marcus Rashford has, even Ed Miliband did.
You’d be less than useless hunting...

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#39
(Original post by DSilva)
Don't get why you dislike him.
He's basically turned the Labour Party into a spare Tory party.
Don't get why you dislike him.
He's basically turned the Labour Party into a spare Tory party.
I don't like 'moderates' . I'd rather vote for a real socialist than a fake conservative or liberal which is why I voted for Corbyn over May in 2017.
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#40
I'm a conservative, but I'll vote for Labour if Mr. Johnson stands for re-election in 2024.
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