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has anyone read the lesbian masterdoc thing? if you're a straight girl, how much of that do you relate to? because i've never been attracted to a girl in my life but so much of that rings true in me and now i'm in a crisis
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(Original post by Anonymous)
Do you have a link for that?
Do you have a link for that?
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(Original post by Anonymous)
has anyone read the lesbian masterdoc thing? if you're a straight girl, how much of that do you relate to? because i've never been attracted to a girl in my life but so much of that rings true in me and now i'm in a crisis
has anyone read the lesbian masterdoc thing? if you're a straight girl, how much of that do you relate to? because i've never been attracted to a girl in my life but so much of that rings true in me and now i'm in a crisis
1. experiment (not right now tho pls we're in a pandemic! unless you're in Austrailia lol)
2. imagine yourself kissing, marrying or doing other things (
) with a girl see how your body responds and if it's something you'd truly like to try3. think back into your past, have you ever liked another girl, had feelings or crushes for one, sometimes we miss things and only realise when we look back (make sure not to rewrite memories though to suit this idea, they might have just been a friend!)
Hope some of this helps, remember that you have plenty of time to figure it out, humans aren't born in a box, I think we're all slightly bisexual, some just more so than others and some just really lean more one way or another. Also sexuality is fluid so it can definitely change over time. Let me know if you have anymore questions and good luck on your journey!
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(Original post by sofiasherratt)
k the thing about the lesbian masterdoc is that it's specifically created for lesbians who have so much internalized homophobia and denial that they need someone to spell it out for them. This is in no way me trying to devalidate your crisis, you may well be lesbian or bi (fellow bi here so hi lol) but basically anyone can read that doc and relate to it based on the way it's written so I wouldn't use it to try validate your wlwness. The best way to truly discover who your are is to:
1. experiment (not right now tho pls we're in a pandemic! unless you're in Austrailia lol)
2. imagine yourself kissing, marrying or doing other things (
) with a girl see how your body responds and if it's something you'd truly like to try
3. think back into your past, have you ever liked another girl, had feelings or crushes for one, sometimes we miss things and only realise when we look back (make sure not to rewrite memories though to suit this idea, they might have just been a friend!)
Hope some of this helps, remember that you have plenty of time to figure it out, humans aren't born in a box, I think we're all slightly bisexual, some just more so than others and some just really lean more one way or another. Also sexuality is fluid so it can definitely change over time. Let me know if you have anymore questions and good luck on your journey!
k the thing about the lesbian masterdoc is that it's specifically created for lesbians who have so much internalized homophobia and denial that they need someone to spell it out for them. This is in no way me trying to devalidate your crisis, you may well be lesbian or bi (fellow bi here so hi lol) but basically anyone can read that doc and relate to it based on the way it's written so I wouldn't use it to try validate your wlwness. The best way to truly discover who your are is to:
1. experiment (not right now tho pls we're in a pandemic! unless you're in Austrailia lol)
2. imagine yourself kissing, marrying or doing other things (
) with a girl see how your body responds and if it's something you'd truly like to try3. think back into your past, have you ever liked another girl, had feelings or crushes for one, sometimes we miss things and only realise when we look back (make sure not to rewrite memories though to suit this idea, they might have just been a friend!)
Hope some of this helps, remember that you have plenty of time to figure it out, humans aren't born in a box, I think we're all slightly bisexual, some just more so than others and some just really lean more one way or another. Also sexuality is fluid so it can definitely change over time. Let me know if you have anymore questions and good luck on your journey!
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Hi, I'm not straight, but I have read the lesbian masterdoc and it was one of the ways how I figured out that I was a lesbian (I thought that I was bi for like a year then re-evalutated). May I ask which parts ring true to you and what parts are you struggling with? I am by no means an expert as I only figured stuff out for myself last year. As a previous poster has mentioned, the masterdoc was mainly written for lesbians and women questioning their sexuality, so straight girls most likely haven't read it themselves.
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The majority of the 'lesbian masterdoc' is a load of nonsense. You can be brought up in a heteronormative society and still be genuinely attracted to men. It doesnt mean you were 'tricked'.
If you havent liked a girl and dont want to be with one, you're straight.
If you havent liked a girl and dont want to be with one, you're straight.
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Before I realized I liked women, I would have assumed that I had never been attracted to women. It was very subtle. I read the lesbian masterdoc, related to some stuff, not all, but some stuff, turns out I'm a raging lesbian.
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(Original post by Foxehh)
The majority of the 'lesbian masterdoc' is a load of nonsense. You can be brought up in a heteronormative society and still be genuinely attracted to men. It doesnt mean you were 'tricked'.
If you havent liked a girl and dont want to be with one, you're straight.
The majority of the 'lesbian masterdoc' is a load of nonsense. You can be brought up in a heteronormative society and still be genuinely attracted to men. It doesnt mean you were 'tricked'.
If you havent liked a girl and dont want to be with one, you're straight.
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(Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
I agree there are straight people out there - women who genuinely are attracted to men. But I suspect there are also women out there who haven't considered or realised that they have liked women, or don't consciously want to be with one, for whom advice from other wlw could be really helpful. Figuring out one's sexuality isn't easy and straightforward for everyone. And our society does push people towards heteronormativity and away from experimentation.
I agree there are straight people out there - women who genuinely are attracted to men. But I suspect there are also women out there who haven't considered or realised that they have liked women, or don't consciously want to be with one, for whom advice from other wlw could be really helpful. Figuring out one's sexuality isn't easy and straightforward for everyone. And our society does push people towards heteronormativity and away from experimentation.
Eg this quote from it "You can really, genuinely have warm, positive, strong feelings towards menand they can still be compulsory heterosexuality." massively amuses me, as does "Do you love them because they’re your boyfriend or are they your boyfriend because you love them? If it’s the first, you might not actually be attracted to them."
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(Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
I agree there are straight people out there - women who genuinely are attracted to men. But I suspect there are also women out there who haven't considered or realised that they have liked women, or don't consciously want to be with one, for whom advice from other wlw could be really helpful. Figuring out one's sexuality isn't easy and straightforward for everyone. And our society does push people towards heteronormativity and away from experimentation.
I agree there are straight people out there - women who genuinely are attracted to men. But I suspect there are also women out there who haven't considered or realised that they have liked women, or don't consciously want to be with one, for whom advice from other wlw could be really helpful. Figuring out one's sexuality isn't easy and straightforward for everyone. And our society does push people towards heteronormativity and away from experimentation.
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(Original post by becausethenight)
The thing is that the lesbian masterdoc is, er, it's own very weird thing? You might want to have a look yourself; it tends to suggest that every woman is a lesbian and any attraction to men is compulsory heterosexuality, ignores any idea of bi or pansexuality, and can get a bit lesbian seperatist-y. I don't think @Foxehh is knocking the concept of something like this as a way of helping people, but the document itself.
Eg this quote from it "You can really, genuinely have warm, positive, strong feelings towards menand they can still be compulsory heterosexuality." massively amuses me, as does "Do you love them because they’re your boyfriend or are they your boyfriend because you love them? If it’s the first, you might not actually be attracted to them."
The thing is that the lesbian masterdoc is, er, it's own very weird thing? You might want to have a look yourself; it tends to suggest that every woman is a lesbian and any attraction to men is compulsory heterosexuality, ignores any idea of bi or pansexuality, and can get a bit lesbian seperatist-y. I don't think @Foxehh is knocking the concept of something like this as a way of helping people, but the document itself.
Eg this quote from it "You can really, genuinely have warm, positive, strong feelings towards menand they can still be compulsory heterosexuality." massively amuses me, as does "Do you love them because they’re your boyfriend or are they your boyfriend because you love them? If it’s the first, you might not actually be attracted to them."
(Original post by Foxehh)
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
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(Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
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(Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
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(Original post by becausethenight)
The thing is that the lesbian masterdoc is, er, it's own very weird thing? You might want to have a look yourself; it tends to suggest that every woman is a lesbian and any attraction to men is compulsory heterosexuality, ignores any idea of bi or pansexuality, and can get a bit lesbian seperatist-y. I don't think @Foxehh is knocking the concept of something like this as a way of helping people, but the document itself.
Eg this quote from it "You can really, genuinely have warm, positive, strong feelings towards menand they can still be compulsory heterosexuality." massively amuses me, as does "Do you love them because they’re your boyfriend or are they your boyfriend because you love them? If it’s the first, you might not actually be attracted to them."
The thing is that the lesbian masterdoc is, er, it's own very weird thing? You might want to have a look yourself; it tends to suggest that every woman is a lesbian and any attraction to men is compulsory heterosexuality, ignores any idea of bi or pansexuality, and can get a bit lesbian seperatist-y. I don't think @Foxehh is knocking the concept of something like this as a way of helping people, but the document itself.
Eg this quote from it "You can really, genuinely have warm, positive, strong feelings towards menand they can still be compulsory heterosexuality." massively amuses me, as does "Do you love them because they’re your boyfriend or are they your boyfriend because you love them? If it’s the first, you might not actually be attracted to them."
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(Original post by Foxehh)
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
(Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
Could you guys tell I'd never read it? XD
Yeah that sounds like it's going way too far. There are definitely straight women in the world...
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(Original post by Foxehh)
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
I agree with that aspect of it completely. My issue is that the document rambles on and on, to a point that it seems to not accept that there are actual straight women in the world. It comes off as if you've ever experienced any form of sexism, that you're really attracted to women and the patriarchy is tricking you to suppress your real feelings. Or even if you havent experienced any situations, you're still probably attracted to women because, again, patriarchy. It is woke garbage.
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(Original post by LazyWriter64)
It actually never says that there aren't straight women. And the so-called 'ranting' is just a list of symptoms from lesbians the author interviewed, and her own, personal experiences. I really encourage you to read it. It's not bi or pan phobic, and it really helped me realize that I was a lesbian.
It actually never says that there aren't straight women. And the so-called 'ranting' is just a list of symptoms from lesbians the author interviewed, and her own, personal experiences. I really encourage you to read it. It's not bi or pan phobic, and it really helped me realize that I was a lesbian.
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