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Is it okay to lie on a driving license application about you being able to see a number plate from the required distance even though your only using it for ID purposes and not driving?
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(Original post by Blakey247)
Is it okay to lie on a driving license application about you being able to see a number plate from the required distance even though your only using it for ID purposes and not driving?
Is it okay to lie on a driving license application about you being able to see a number plate from the required distance even though your only using it for ID purposes and not driving?
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(Original post by Blakey247)
Is it okay to lie on a driving license application about you being able to see a number plate from the required distance even though your only using it for ID purposes and not driving?
Is it okay to lie on a driving license application about you being able to see a number plate from the required distance even though your only using it for ID purposes and not driving?
However.. if you have absolutely no intentions of driving (and should you change your mind you immediately contact DVLA prior to attempting to drive) then I see it somewhat as a necessary evil.
I can sympathise with you needing government issued photographic ID where a passport is not always feasible or ideal.
Be aware that it is a criminal offence to make a false declaration to obtain a licence, and you are liable for a maximum £2,500 fine if prosecuted.
Given you have no intentions to drive, the chance of prosecution is slim to none.
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I might be misremembering, but I think the application form only asks if you need glasses to drive, (more of a self declaration than anything). The reading a number plate at distance only comes up if you actually take a test.
It’ll depend on the wording in the current form, but Tom’s advice is sound.
It’ll depend on the wording in the current form, but Tom’s advice is sound.
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(Original post by Admit-One)
I might be misremembering, but I think the application form only asks if you need glasses to drive, (more of a self declaration than anything). The reading a number plate at distance only comes up if you actually take a test.
It’ll depend on the wording in the current form, but Tom’s advice is sound.
I might be misremembering, but I think the application form only asks if you need glasses to drive, (more of a self declaration than anything). The reading a number plate at distance only comes up if you actually take a test.
It’ll depend on the wording in the current form, but Tom’s advice is sound.
"be able to read a car number plate (with glasses or corrective lenses if necessary) from 20.5 metres (67 feet), or 20 metres (65 feet) if narrower characters (50 millimetres wide) are displayed".
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(Original post by IWMTom)
I think you may be. The latest example of the D1 form I can find (which granted is quite old but I don't imagine it would have changed much) asks the applicant to confirm that they can...
"be able to read a car number plate (with glasses or corrective lenses if necessary) from 20.5 metres (67 feet), or 20 metres (65 feet) if narrower characters (50 millimetres wide) are displayed".
I think you may be. The latest example of the D1 form I can find (which granted is quite old but I don't imagine it would have changed much) asks the applicant to confirm that they can...
"be able to read a car number plate (with glasses or corrective lenses if necessary) from 20.5 metres (67 feet), or 20 metres (65 feet) if narrower characters (50 millimetres wide) are displayed".
You’re correct, the most recent version that I can find has two questions, one about glasses and a declaration that you can read a number plate at the required distance.
I’m not sure anyone has ever gotten in trouble for making a false declaration here. If you can’t meet the standard they just revoke your provisional. Unless you are registered as visually impaired you could always just claim that your eyesight had worsened since you filled in the form.
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(Original post by Admit-One)
I’m not sure anyone has ever gotten in trouble for making a false declaration here. If you can’t meet the standard they just revoke your provisional. Unless you are registered as visually impaired you could always just claim that your eyesight had worsened since you filled in the form.
I’m not sure anyone has ever gotten in trouble for making a false declaration here. If you can’t meet the standard they just revoke your provisional. Unless you are registered as visually impaired you could always just claim that your eyesight had worsened since you filled in the form.
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You wouldn't get in trouble for it necessarily, however if you did decide to actually drive it could go two ways...
I've only had one eyesight failure at the start of a test, and generally we'd just tell them to go and get their eyes tested before they come back. A form would be filed that adds an exception to their licence stating they must wear glasses to drive. Interestingly this doesn't happen to those that turn up and read the plates with glasses, as we can't assume they can't read them without them.
If you do drive and have an accident you may be required to have an eyesight test after the accident, this is where you would be fined.
So as long as you definitely don't plan on driving you'll be fine.
I've only had one eyesight failure at the start of a test, and generally we'd just tell them to go and get their eyes tested before they come back. A form would be filed that adds an exception to their licence stating they must wear glasses to drive. Interestingly this doesn't happen to those that turn up and read the plates with glasses, as we can't assume they can't read them without them.
If you do drive and have an accident you may be required to have an eyesight test after the accident, this is where you would be fined.
So as long as you definitely don't plan on driving you'll be fine.
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It might have changed but before I even got to the car to do my practical test, they did an eyesight test with a licence plate at the required distance. If you failed to read it, you failed the test before even getting in the car. In future, if you did decide to drive, you’d need to declare to DVLA and amend if you ever wanted to drive.
For ID purposes then, probably okay, although a bit of a morally grey area to lie on the forms.
For ID purposes then, probably okay, although a bit of a morally grey area to lie on the forms.
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