I am a fully LGBTQ+affirming born again Christian! AMA!

Watch
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#1
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#1
Born again/ evangelical Christian, wherever you want to call it

Ask away
Last edited by Smeraldettoi; 1 month ago
1
reply
sunny.side.up
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#2
Report 1 month ago
#2
What religion do you practice?
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#3
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#3
(Original post by sunny.side.up)
What religion do you practice?
I am Christian
0
reply
sunny.side.up
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#4
Report 1 month ago
#4
(Original post by Garnettoi)
I am Christian
Nice, me too.
How does being LGBTQ+ connect you with the bible?
Let me know if anything I say makes you uncomfortable.
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#5
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#5
(Original post by sunny.side.up)
Nice, me too.
How does being LGBTQ+ connect you with the bible?
Let me know if anything I say makes you uncomfortable.
I am lesbian by nature but I received Jesus as my personal saviour when I was 16; it thus not my opinion that being gay, lesbian, bi or trans or any other identity automatically blocks you off from knowing Jesus as your lord and saviour. I don’t support conversion therapy either as I think it’s nonsense.
3
reply
Joel 96
Badges: 19
Rep:
?
#6
Report 1 month ago
#6
Do you think other Christians who judge you for being gay are homophobic? Or do you understand where they're coming from as a Christian yourself?
0
reply
sunny.side.up
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#7
Report 1 month ago
#7
(Original post by Garnettoi)
I am lesbian by nature but I received Jesus as my personal saviour when I was 16; it thus not my opinion that being gay, lesbian, bi or trans or any other identity automatically blocks you off from knowing Jesus as your lord and saviour. I don’t support conversion therapy either as I think it’s nonsense.
I think it's important that you have excepted him. I know many people say Jesus is against anything besides heterosexual people, but I disagree. He cares about what's in our hearts, not our sexuality.
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#8
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#8
(Original post by Joel 96)
Do you think other Christians who judge you for being gay are homophobic? Or do you understand where they're coming from as a Christian yourself?
I can’t make myself straight, all any LGBTQ+ Christian can choose to do really is not act on their sexuality. That being said, I used to be in denial about my sexuality and a really conservative Bible bashing fundamentalist type of Christian who didn’t really understand homosexuality so I can kind of understand where they’re coming from.
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#9
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#9
(Original post by sunny.side.up)
I think it's important that you have excepted him. I know many people say Jesus is against anything besides heterosexual people, but I disagree. He cares about what's in our hearts, not our sexuality.
Exactly! Jesus died for the whole world’s sins not just straight cisgender folks!
0
reply
Joel 96
Badges: 19
Rep:
?
#10
Report 1 month ago
#10
(Original post by Garnettoi)
I can’t make myself straight, all any LGBTQ+ Christian can choose to do really is not act on their sexuality. That being said, I used to be in denial about my sexuality and a really conservative Bible bashing fundamentalist type of Christian who didn’t really understand homosexuality so I can kind of understand where they’re coming from.
Thanks for the response. I've never asked a gay person this, so apologies if it comes off as ignorant, but do you really have zero attraction to the opposite sex? Like, you've never felt anything for men? I don't know the origins of homosexuality, and science hasn't been able to find out, so it's something I think about a lot. If it is a choice, then it could be called a sin, but if you really can't choose to be straight, then it seems unfair to say homosexuality is a sin.
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#11
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#11
(Original post by Joel 96)
Thanks for the response. I've never asked a gay person this, so apologies if it comes off as ignorant, but do you really have zero attraction to the opposite sex? Like, you've never felt anything for men? I don't know the origins of homosexuality, and science hasn't been able to find out, so it's something I think about a lot. If it is a choice, then it could be called a sin, but if you really can't choose to be straight, then it seems unfair to say homosexuality is a sin.
I can assure you that I’ve never been sexually attracted to a man in my life. I once attempted, in my former days of self hatred, to make myself straight and in doing so paradoxically further affirmed to myself that I was gay. With respect to the verses in the Bible that appear to be condemning homosexual sex, it is not my opinion, from looking at the original Hebrew and Greek, that is actually talking about homosexuality, hence my relatively liberal position in this issue. But I apply strict sexual standards to myself and affirm others rather than vice versa as a lot of Christians seem to
Last edited by Smeraldettoi; 1 month ago
1
reply
Joel 96
Badges: 19
Rep:
?
#12
Report 1 month ago
#12
(Original post by Garnettoi)
I can assure you that I’ve never been sexually attracted to a man in my life. I once attempted, in my former days of self hatred, to make myself straight and in doing so paradoxically further affirmed to myself that I was gay. With respect to the verses in the Bible that appear to be condemning homosexual sex, it is not my opinion, from looking at the original Hebrew and Greek, that is actually talking about homosexuality, hence my relatively liberal position in this issue. But I apply strict standards to myself and affirm others rather than vice versa as a lot of Christians seem to
Thanks for the insight! You seem really reasonable and understanding.

As a mormon, I have no qualms with homosexual members. I've always thought that God and Jesus wouldn't mind what goes on between two consenting adults in the bedroom, provided they mean well and aren't doing it just for pleasure, but love.
0
reply
sunny.side.up
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#13
Report 1 month ago
#13
(Original post by Joel 96)
Thanks for the response. I've never asked a gay person this, so apologies if it comes off as ignorant, but do you really have zero attraction to the opposite sex? Like, you've never felt anything for men? I don't know the origins of homosexuality, and science hasn't been able to find out, so it's something I think about a lot. If it is a choice, then it could be called a sin, but if you really can't choose to be straight, then it seems unfair to say homosexuality is a sin.
I think its people considered a sin if someone acts on that desire.
0
reply
Joel 96
Badges: 19
Rep:
?
#14
Report 1 month ago
#14
(Original post by sunny.side.up)
I think its people considered a sin if someone acts on that desire.
Generally yes. Obviously the verses in Leviticus are pretty explicit regarding homosexuality, though there is some contextual dispute over its meaning (something about Israelites' purity in the Holiness Code).
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#15
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#15
(Original post by Joel 96)
Thanks for the insight! You seem really reasonable and understanding.

As a mormon, I have no qualms with homosexual members. I've always thought that God and Jesus wouldn't mind what goes on between two consenting adults in the bedroom, provided they mean well and aren't doing it just for pleasure, but love.
Thank you, if you have any more questions, please shoot

I don’t really know much about Mormonism tbh; nice to see you’re affirming anyway
0
reply
rockhead08
Badges: 13
Rep:
?
#16
Report 1 month ago
#16
Why would at one point in life (over 2000 years ago Jesus lived I think?) God come down in human form, get tortured by it’s creation (humans) and die by it’s creation, in order to forgive the sins of it’s creation?

Why do you believe in the teachings and words of Paul, Mark, Luke etc?

Where is the gospel of Jesus?

I want to see Jesus’s words!

Why do you believe the bible to be a reliable source of information when there are so many different versions, so many different verses taken out and put back in etc.

Bit unrelated but why why why do people believe what the bible says?

Why do people believe what Paul and the others say?

How can God be a human and man at the same time?

How can god die?

Why can’t god just forgive, but instead he has to come down in human form and die by it’s creation just to simply forgive its creation?

Why

Why

Why

Christians don’t follow the words of Jesus! They follow the words of Paul and the others!

Jesus fell on his face and prayed to god!

He said ‘by myself I can do nothing’

He fell on his knees and prayed to god, just like all the other prophets (Moses, Abraham, Muhammad)

All the prophets (including Jesus) had one, simple message...

To believe and worship one God, without partners, without other gods, without the trinity none sense.

People need to start using their reasoning.
0
reply
Joel 96
Badges: 19
Rep:
?
#17
Report 1 month ago
#17
(Original post by Garnettoi)
Thank you, if you have any more questions, please shoot

I don’t really know much about Mormonism tbh; nice to see you’re affirming anyway
I think I'm done, thanks for the answers

That's okay, most don't :lol:
2
reply
LordBerkut
Badges: 17
Rep:
?
#18
Report 1 month ago
#18
'If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.'

'A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God' (For the trans part of LGBTQ)

I know these are from the old testament, but why would god change his mind?
1
reply
sunny.side.up
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#19
Report 1 month ago
#19
(Original post by LordBerkut)
'If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.'

'A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God' (For the trans part of LGBTQ)

I know these are from the old testament, but why would god change his mind?
What about verses also stating God loves you for your heart, and only your heart?
See, the bible is so confusing, because it can say one thing and a completely opposite, it just depends on what that person decides to listen to and believe in.
0
reply
Smeraldettoi
Badges: 16
Rep:
?
#20
Report Thread starter 1 month ago
#20
(Original post by rockhead08)
Why would at one point in life (over 2000 years ago Jesus lived I think?) God come down in human form, get tortured by it’s creation (humans) and die by it’s creation, in order to forgive the sins of it’s creation?

Why do you believe in the teachings and words of Paul, Mark, Luke etc?

Where is the gospel of Jesus?

I want to see Jesus’s words!

Why do you believe the bible to be a reliable source of information when there are so many different versions, so many different verses taken out and put back in etc.

Bit unrelated but why why why do people believe what the bible says?

Why do people believe what Paul and the others say?

How can God be a human and man at the same time?

How can god die?

Why can’t god just forgive, but instead he has to come down in human form and die by it’s creation just to simply forgive its creation?

Why

Why

Why

Christians don’t follow the words of Jesus! They follow the words of Paul and the others!

Jesus fell on his face and prayed to god!

He said ‘by myself I can do nothing’

He fell on his knees and prayed to god, just like all the other prophets (Moses, Abraham, Muhammad)

All the prophets (including Jesus) had one, simple message...

To believe and worship one God, without partners, without other gods, without the trinity none sense.

People need to start using their reasoning.
Christians believe in and worship one God, we just believe He can take different three forms simultaneously, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It’s a bit like how water can be steam, water and ice but it’s the same molecule if you get the analogy?

We believe that none can become right with God by our deeds, as all righteousness of humans to God is like filthy rags and all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and His Righteousness

Therefore, all humans sin and all humans choose to sin, God as a perfect and just God requires sacrifice to cover for said wilful human sin. Jesus taught that anger made you guilty of murder, and I don’t think there is a human alive who has never been angry. Thus sin incurs punishment by God. Thus, Jesus, who lived a perfect life pleasing to God in full submission died on the cross for us, so that those who believe in him shall not perish (go to hell) but have eternal life (heaven)

I agree however sadly a lot of Christians don’t act very Christ like and fall short of the example given to us by Jesus
0
reply
X

Quick Reply

Attached files
Write a reply...
Reply
new posts
Back
to top
Latest
My Feed

See more of what you like on
The Student Room

You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

Personalise

What factors affect your mental health the most right now?

Anxiousness about lockdown easing (166)
4.89%
Uncertainty around my education (498)
14.68%
Uncertainty around my future career prospects (379)
11.17%
Lack of purpose or motivation (473)
13.94%
Lack of support system (eg. teachers, counsellors, delays in care) (164)
4.83%
Impact of lockdown on physical health (208)
6.13%
Loneliness (288)
8.49%
Financial worries (122)
3.6%
Concern about myself or my loves ones getting/having been ill (137)
4.04%
Exposure to negative news/social media (155)
4.57%
Lack of real life entertainment (186)
5.48%
Lack of confidence in making big life decisions (302)
8.9%
Worry about missed opportunities during the pandemic (315)
9.28%

Watched Threads

View All