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Life sorted bcos of oxbridge?
Before ne1 has a go, i know there are similar threads but if you do get a degree from oxbridge, is your life pretty much sorted?
Can you go for the best jobs etc and have a reasonable chance of getting them? (i know it can depend on other factors to). A family friend (cambridge graduate) was telling me that for some jobs they'd offered it to her simply because she went to cambridge.
Moosie Moo
Can you go for the best jobs etc and have a reasonable chance of getting them? (i know it can depend on other factors to). A family friend (cambridge graduate) was telling me that for some jobs they'd offered it to her simply because she went to cambridge.
Moosie Moo
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no, your life is not sorted just because you go to oxbridge. firstly, you have to actually get a decent qualification (a third, no matter where it's from, does not look impressive) secondly, you still have to prove yourself if you want a decent job, and for most oxbridge graduates these are pretty high-level things, requiring a LOT of extra work etc
it IS true that some employers will look at you more favourably though, because of the institution. doesn't mean you can sit and hatch eggs and wait for the offers to roll in though
it IS true that some employers will look at you more favourably though, because of the institution. doesn't mean you can sit and hatch eggs and wait for the offers to roll in though
It helps, but doesn't do it on it's own. A degree from Oxbridge is worth more than one from somewhere else, but that's because it's harder work. However the difference isn't huge, and there are more important things than the university you went to. To get a really good job, you have to pass an aptitude test, do well at interview and have experience outside of your degree. If you do well at aptitude tests and interviews, have a good degree and decent experience, then you may well have it made, with regards to a career, for life. But the degree is just one part of it.
If you make the most of your time here, then yes, you are 'sorted'. If you do get a 2.1 but do nothing else except watch TV or go to the pub then no, it isn't, an Oxbridge degree really doesn't necessarily mean that the world's your oyster any more.
The student from Sheffield, Loughborough or Exeter who productively made the most out of their university experience is usually more 'sorted' than the Oxbridge graduate who meets the above description.
The student from Sheffield, Loughborough or Exeter who productively made the most out of their university experience is usually more 'sorted' than the Oxbridge graduate who meets the above description.
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Before ne1 has a go, i know there are similar threads but if you do get a degree from oxbridge, is your life pretty much sorted?
Can you go for the best jobs etc and have a reasonable chance of getting them? (i know it can depend on other factors to). A family friend (cambridge graduate) was telling me that for some jobs they'd offered it to her simply because she went to cambridge.
Moosie Moo
Can you go for the best jobs etc and have a reasonable chance of getting them? (i know it can depend on other factors to). A family friend (cambridge graduate) was telling me that for some jobs they'd offered it to her simply because she went to cambridge.
Moosie Moo
I only got my Year In Industry placement because I'm going to Cambridge. Already I have seen that there are some companies that only take Oxbridge people.
JaF
I only got my Year In Industry placement because I'm going to Cambridge. Already I have seen that there are some companies that only take Oxbridge people.
I don't know what it's like for engineering, but this seems to be quite a narrow-minded approach, since they're closing their doors on thousands of very good, and in many cases better, candidates. Surely someone with a 1st in Engineering from Imperial is going to be just as good as an Oxbridge one? In professional sectors, exclusively Oxbridge places seem to be very stuffy and arrogant, the atmosphere's much better when you've got more diversity.
Drogue
A degree from Oxbridge is worth more than one from somewhere else, but that's because it's harder work. However the difference isn't huge
I think it's worth more based on prestige rather than because it's harder work. And the difference can be quite huge, especially for arts subjects, I doubt employers realise we do 4+ times as much work as ppl doing the same subject at Warwick or Nottingham. [Edit: I'm referring specifically to Economics here]
priya
i wasn't aware of this and therefore was not having a go at you! sorry!
I know I know, I was just being melodramatic because I really do have to get a job
You've got to learn that half the things I say aren't to be taken seriously, else you could get very confused as to what I'm like lol.
That said, I'm in an odd mood today, I've just turned down a trip to the pub to do my laundry. Bleh.
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Jools
I don't know what it's like for engineering, but this seems to be quite a narrow-minded approach, since they're closing their doors on thousands of very good, and in many cases better, candidates. Surely someone with a 1st in Engineering from Imperial is going to be just as good as an Oxbridge one?.
I agree and my company does recruit people from Imperial and UMIST etc. But I was just illusrating the fact that an Oxbridge degree can sometimes open doors.
Jools
I think it's worth more based on prestige rather than because it's harder work. And the difference can be quite huge, especially for arts subjects, I doubt employers realise we do 4+ times as much work as ppl doing the same subject at Warwick or Nottingham.
I meant the difference in what it's worth isn't huge. I know the workload is very different!
JaF
I only got my Year In Industry placement because I'm going to Cambridge. Already I have seen that there are some companies that only take Oxbridge people.
same with chemistry. having an MChem from oxford does seem to put you one step ahead of the rest. speaking from my own experience - albeit very limited - oxbridge chemists seem to find it a lot easier to get industrial placements in the chemicals sector than their bristol, imperial, UCL (ect) counterparts.
calumc
As one of my lecturers, Sir Mike Brady, put it - "that whole idea, y'know, go to Oxford, get your degree, you're set up for life - that's bullshit.".
Sir Mike Brady is a legend and one of the few people who can say that he got a knighthood for looking at womens' boobs.
He is right. You aren't just set for life with an Oxford Degree but going to Oxford does give you the chance to get set for life. The people you meet, the attitude it gives you and the opportunties it offers you is a chance to be set for life. I am sure that if you are good and you go to Oxford, you will be set for life.
Lol, my job prospects are plain awful (although if I do well enough I want to do postgrad and go into research so it shouldn't matter)
MB
MB
Jools
I don't know what it's like for engineering, but this seems to be quite a narrow-minded approach, since they're closing their doors on thousands of very good, and in many cases better, candidates. Surely someone with a 1st in Engineering from Imperial is going to be just as good as an Oxbridge one? In professional sectors, exclusively Oxbridge places seem to be very stuffy and arrogant, the atmosphere's much better when you've got more diversity.
I think it's worth more based on prestige rather than because it's harder work. And the difference can be quite huge, especially for arts subjects, I doubt employers realise we do 4+ times as much work as ppl doing the same subject at Warwick or Nottingham.
I think it's worth more based on prestige rather than because it's harder work. And the difference can be quite huge, especially for arts subjects, I doubt employers realise we do 4+ times as much work as ppl doing the same subject at Warwick or Nottingham.
4 times more work my arse.
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