Is it worth to start a society about violence against women?

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Hello I just need some advice, my uni already has a feminist society but they don’t really do much campaigning for gender equality so Im thinking of starting a society about violence & abuse against women where we would campaign and write letters and start peititions, fundraise and bring attention to topics to do with that. Do you think it’s worth it to start a society that I described if theres already a feminist society and soon there will be a ‘women in politics’ society
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(Original post by setarexhx)
Hello I just need some advice, my uni already has a feminist society but they don’t really do much campaigning for gender equality so Im thinking of starting a society about violence & abuse against women where we would campaign and write letters and start peititions, fundraise and bring attention to topics to do with that. Do you think it’s worth it to start a society that I described if theres already a feminist society and soon there will be a ‘women in politics’ society
Females is Britain have more rights than male
In relationship between two women 1 to 2 gay women been hit by their partner in their life time. When I dated another woman she hit me in the face once I'm an woman myself.
70% of one of violent in a relationship is a woman hitting a man
90% of people sleeping rough are believed to be male more half of males on street left their violent female partner.
Over 40% of adult who are effect by violent in the home are male their are almost no help for males in this country
In relationship which have violent by both parties a woman is more likely to get help be believed even when she just as violent as her male partner. if you ever live volunteer near a women home you understand how violent those females are.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...aughing-matter
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I think its a great idea although once you have your band of followers it might be worth tagging onto one of the many already existing campaign groups on the matter.

The last poster looloo2134 raises a valid point but is a distraction. I am sure if they wished to form their own society to campaign for hard done by men in our society, they can do just that
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Hello I just need some advice, my uni already has a feminist society but they don’t really do much campaigning for gender equality so Im thinking of starting a society about violence & abuse against women where we would campaign and write letters and start peititions, fundraise and bring attention to topics to do with that. Do you think it’s worth it to start a society that I described if theres already a feminist society and soon there will be a ‘women in politics’ society
Organisations and individuals who speak out against violence against women and girls seem to be increasingly under attack these days. You may take from this that your proposed society is sorely needed, but also that you are sadly likely to face opposition and abuse. Please do this if you can, but first look out for your own safety.
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I think its a great idea although once you have your band of followers it might be worth tagging onto one of the many already existing campaign groups on the matter.

The last poster looloo2134 raises a valid point but is a distraction. I am sure if they wished to form their own society to campaign for hard done by men in our society, they can do just that
Well as a feminist the OP should be looking at gender equality which should be aware that violent female in relationship with a male are likely to get away with being violent. They should be complaining for more safe houses for males and female abuse of men to get higher sentences.
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Put it this way:

You're a violent woman-beater.
You see the anti "violence against women" society.
You decide to no longer proceed.

Sound likely? No.

So the society is not worth doing.
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Hello I just need some advice, my uni already has a feminist society but they don’t really do much campaigning for gender equality so Im thinking of starting a society about violence & abuse against women where we would campaign and write letters and start peititions, fundraise and bring attention to topics to do with that. Do you think it’s worth it to start a society that I described if theres already a feminist society and soon there will be a ‘women in politics’ society

It depends. Do you know specifically you are trying to achieve? Who are you going to write to? Which organisations specifically do you want to petition and what exactly do you want them to work with you on? How will the money raised actually be spent?

If you can produce a series of definitive statements like “We are calling on (organisation name) to change its policy regarding (issue) within (time period) in order to achieve (goal)” then yes you should start a group.

There are entirely too many of these groups who know they want to stop something but have no idea what they want to do. So they just talk and put posters up and social media ads saying “Stop domestic violence”. If you’re gonna end up doing that, don’t bother. The people who weren’t violent don’t need telling not to do something they weren’t going to do in the first place, and the people who were gonna do it are still gonna do it regardless of how often you tell them.

Too many of these societies and protest groups just break down into ineffective verbal effluvia that changes nothing.
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hi there, as you are asking for advice on whether you should start a society at uni and not a debate, i moved your thread to the relevant forum

do you know for sure that the feminist society doesn't do anything for violence against women? i would first double check that. afaik for your society to be approved by the student union it has to be distinct enough. also how exactly do you plan to campaign and fundraise? it's all nice in theory but whether it's a good idea is all dependent on your plan.
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Hello I just need some advice, my uni already has a feminist society but they don’t really do much campaigning for gender equality so Im thinking of starting a society about violence & abuse against women where we would campaign and write letters and start peititions, fundraise and bring attention to topics to do with that. Do you think it’s worth it to start a society that I described if theres already a feminist society and soon there will be a ‘women in politics’ society
You could try joining the feminist society and see if there's any possible way to push for campaigns around gender equality. This would be better because there's probably already an established following there, but if this doesn't work then I'd say go for it! I think the women in politics society won't be as focused on advocacy, it might be more about equality in opportunity than abuse + violence, but I obviously can't say for sure.
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Have you considered starting a student affiliate group of JusticeForWomen or branch of The Women's Equality Party?
https://www.justiceforwomen.org.uk
https://www.womensequality.org.uk
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Well as a feminist the OP should be looking at gender equality which should be aware that violent female in relationship with a male are likely to get away with being violent. They should be complaining for more safe houses for males and female abuse of men to get higher sentences.
Equality, or equity? It's a bit like starting a campaign for the poorest in society but then having it hijacked by people who feel bankrupted multi-millionaires have it worse.

There is nothing wrong with focussing on one specific issue and chances are, if it gains traction to the point of legislation, other forms of domestic violence will no doubt also get a look in.

What are you trying to achieve? Less violence or a petty war of the sexes?
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Equality, or equity? It's a bit like starting a campaign for the poorest in society but then having it hijacked by people who feel bankrupted multi-millionaires have it worse.

There is nothing wrong with focussing on one specific issue and chances are, if it gains traction to the point of legislation, other forms of domestic violence will no doubt also get a look in.

What are you trying to achieve? Less violence or a petty war of the sexes?
You are wrong when the idea of safe house came about 1950s they wanted just as many set up for males as female but female groups stop the safe houses for males being built. Fake feminist groups have stop abuse of men gay women abuse by other women (like myself woman abuse by a female partner) being taken seriously.

When people who are fake feminists such someone only care about one gender females realize that they need to support male victims of domestic they will be true feminists.
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You are wrong when the idea of safe house came about 1950s they wanted just as many set up for males as female but female groups stop the safe houses for males being built. Fake feminist groups have stop abuse of men gay women abuse by other women (like myself woman abuse by a female partner) being taken seriously.

When people who are fake feminists such someone only care about one gender females realize that they need to support male victims of domestic they will be true feminists.
I agree. But to actively discourage campaigning against women's issues - isn't that just as bad as your fake feminists stopping safe houses for men? What is the difference between what you are doing and the fake feminists campaigns?

What are you trying to achieve? Less violence or a battle of the sexes?

I'm interested to learn more about these fake feminists stopping safe houses for men. Do you have a link to some historical articles or websites about it please?
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Equality, or equity? It's a bit like starting a campaign for the poorest in society but then having it hijacked by people who feel bankrupted multi-millionaires have it worse.

There is nothing wrong with focussing on one specific issue and chances are, if it gains traction to the point of legislation, other forms of domestic violence will no doubt also get a look in.

What are you trying to achieve? Less violence or a petty war of the sexes?
I want to stop any form of violence and abuse against women (of course I know that’s a huge thing to want to stop) but I want it to be as inclusive as possible. Women in Asian countries and specifically ‘third world countries’ (although I don’t agree with that term’ experience the most sexual violence and abuse. Anything from rape by their husbands, family members, to being sex trafficked, to sex slavery, to forced marriage at a very young age. I bet many people don’t know that in SOuth Korea women have been fighting against a spy cam epidemic where women are filmed against their consent in public bathrooms, offices, even at their homes then the footage is sold on illegal porn websites. Also, FGM which is still a practice. This is what I want to stop or even just bring awareness to. We spend so much time focusing on western feminism and western female issues that we forget about women in the other side of the world that are so so so far behind in achieving anything close to equality, they don’t even have basic human rights. That’s why I want to start a society or a campaign. Anything to talk more about this.
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I want to stop any form of violence and abuse against women (of course I know that’s a huge thing to want to stop) but I want it to be as inclusive as possible. Women in Asian countries and specifically ‘third world countries’ (although I don’t agree with that term’ experience the most sexual violence and abuse. Anything from rape by their husbands, family members, to being sex trafficked, to sex slavery, to forced marriage at a very young age. I bet many people don’t know that in SOuth Korea women have been fighting against a spy cam epidemic where women are filmed against their consent in public bathrooms, offices, even at their homes then the footage is sold on illegal porn websites. Also, FGM which is still a practice. This is what I want to stop or even just bring awareness to. We spend so much time focusing on western feminism and western female issues that we forget about women in the other side of the world that are so so so far behind in achieving anything close to equality, they don’t even have basic human rights. That’s why I want to start a society or a campaign. Anything to talk more about this.
Interesting. And just as the other poster dismissed violence against women in this country, highlighting violence against men and gay men, you have done exactly the same by highlighting women in Asia.

Do women at the end of domestic violence in this country not deserve our support? It almost feels like a taboo topic where violence against absolutely everyone and anyone in the world is somehow more important or more worthy than women in this country.
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I want to stop any form of violence and abuse against women (of course I know that’s a huge thing to want to stop) but I want it to be as inclusive as possible. Women in Asian countries and specifically ‘third world countries’ (although I don’t agree with that term’ experience the most sexual violence and abuse. Anything from rape by their husbands, family members, to being sex trafficked, to sex slavery, to forced marriage at a very young age. I bet many people don’t know that in SOuth Korea women have been fighting against a spy cam epidemic where women are filmed against their consent in public bathrooms, offices, even at their homes then the footage is sold on illegal porn websites. Also, FGM which is still a practice. This is what I want to stop or even just bring awareness to. We spend so much time focusing on western feminism and western female issues that we forget about women in the other side of the world that are so so so far behind in achieving anything close to equality, they don’t even have basic human rights. That’s why I want to start a society or a campaign. Anything to talk more about this.
do you care about violent abuse against males in other countries for example if you look at children on the streets most are male. Baby boys are the victim of MGM in this country it effect them badly. Males are forced into marriage at a young age and murdered by their family if they end their married. Every issue that effect females in third world counties effect males too so why don't complain for all human being in those countries not just females.
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Interesting. And just as the other poster dismissed violence against women in this country, highlighting violence against men and gay men, you have done exactly the same by highlighting women in Asia.

Do women at the end of domestic violence in this country not deserve our support? It almost feels like a taboo topic where violence against absolutely everyone and anyone in the world is somehow more important or more worthy than women in this country.
I did not dismissed violence against women I am bi woman myself who was victim of a violent female partner I pointed out about male victim are not help as much as female victim.

Helping people abroad is someone that people at university seen to do when they leave they start seeing the world differently and volunteer at food banks etc.
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I did not dismissed violence against women I am bi woman myself who was victim of a violent female partner I pointed out about male victim are not help as much as female victim.

Helping people abroad is someone that people at university seen to do when they leave they start seeing the world differently and volunteer at food banks etc.
Oh - I don't know. There seem to be plenty of charities / action groups on the subject

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vi...en+safe+houses

Interesting analysis of recent papers published on the subject here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domest..._men#Criticism

It seems that where as violence against men is a thing, it is much more prevalent and much more harmful as a whole against women. Unless I am reading the wrong thing?
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Interesting. And just as the other poster dismissed violence against women in this country, highlighting violence against men and gay men, you have done exactly the same by highlighting women in Asia.

Do women at the end of domestic violence in this country not deserve our support? It almost feels like a taboo topic where violence against absolutely everyone and anyone in the world is somehow more important or more worthy than women in this country.
If I say I’m raising awareness for men, you’ll say I’m ignoring women. If I say I’m raising awareness for women, you’ll say I’m ignoring men. No matter what you’ll say I’m excluding somebody so I can’t win anyway. I want to start a campaign that is most important to me! That doesn’t mean I don’t care about any other issue in the world? There’s plenty of campaigns for absolutely every issue! And I want to dedicate my time and effort building a campaign that is dear to me. I never have said I don’t care about men or women in western world. I already work with women’s equality party and they do a lot for women in the U.K. so..I’m also an environmentalist and socialist maybe I should start a campaign about that? Or would I be excluding people. You’re just being unreasonable. If you care so much about an issue go create your own campaign which is what I’m doing.
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