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https://cspicenter.org/reports/academicfreedom/

A study conducted in the UK, US and Canada reveals *(shock)* there is "significant discrimination against conservative s in hiring, promotion, publication and grants'..

Among other findings- 1in 3 UK academic s wouldn't hire a brexit supporter...,🙄🤣

What a surprise...

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That's the free market my dude, do you think we should we start doing affirmative action in academics for conservatives?
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
https://cspicenter.org/reports/academicfreedom/

A study conducted in the UK, US and Canada reveals *(shock)* there is "significant discrimination against conservative s in hiring, promotion, publication and grants'..

Among other findings- 1in 3 UK academic s wouldn't hire a brexit supporter...,🙄🤣

What a surprise...

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Have you read the actual articles you are linking to?

No, of course you haven't because if you had, you'd come across statements like:

These show that 50% of right-wing and 40% of left-wing academics preferred their own candidates (as did 38% of Labour voters and 33% of Tory voters, not shown) where credentials are evenly matched. Looking at measures of “hard” discrimination, 20% of rightwing and 15% of left-wing academics would discriminate against those of the opposite camp who had better records
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Thus, if anything, there seems to be somewhat greater bias from the right this time as compared to the left.

Which don't really fit in with your right wing victimhood narrative.
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(Original post by 64Lightbulbs)
That's the free market my dude, do you think we should we start doing affirmative action in academics for conservatives?
That's the public sector for a start

If it was a private company then they can hire who they want. But this is taxpayer funded entity.
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Have you read the actual articles you are linking to?

No, of course you haven't because if you had, you'd come across statements like:



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Which don't really fit in with your right wing victimhood narrative.
How does any of the above change anything I said ....?
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
How does any of the above change anything I said ....?
At least you didn't bother to deny that you haven't actually read your own the links.

Do you really need someone to explain the problem in your reasoning?

You are framing academia as having a anti-right wing bias yet undermining your own argument with evidence that suggest right wing academics display a greater level of bias.
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Worth taking this survey with a pinch of salt, given that it was published by a seemingly right-leaning group.
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
That's the public sector for a start

If it was a private company then they can hire who they want. But this is taxpayer funded entity.
Do you think we should do affirmative action in the NHS?
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(Original post by Calibrated.)
Do you really need someone to explain the problem in your reasoning?

You are framing academia as having a anti-right wing bias yet undermining your own argument with evidence that suggest right wing academics display a greater level of bias.
No contradiction there if right wing academics are underrepresented compared to left wing ones. Whst page are your quotes from?

In any case the main findings of the study back up what I'm saying:

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Do you dispute this?

(Original post by 64Lightbulbs)
Do you think we should do affirmative action in the NHS?
No the opposite. The NHS shouldn't discriminate against right wing people (eg in employment) which is what universities are doing...
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
That's the public sector for a start

If it was a private company then they can hire who they want. But this is taxpayer funded entity.
Are you sure about the universities in the US? I doubt they're all in the public sector lol.
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
That's the public sector for a start

If it was a private company then they can hire who they want. But this is taxpayer funded entity.
Was the research you’re sharing funded by tax payers?
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Was the research you’re sharing funded by tax payers?
No it's a non profit
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
No the opposite. The NHS shouldn't discriminate against right wing people (eg in employment) which is what universities are doing...
How do you suppose that should be enforced? (in academia, I mean)
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How do you suppose that should be enforced? (in academia, I mean)
Well the paper says:

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But I'm sure there are other things that can be done. Perhaps some sort of union?

Regardless, the first part of addressing a problem is acknowledging it's existence.
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Go into business, economics, engineering, maths, natural sciences, computer science & avoid most social sciences (apart from economics) and especially the humanities.
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(Original post by CatGentleman)
Go into business, economics, engineering, maths, natural sciences, computer science & avoid most social sciences (apart from economics) and especially the humanities.
If you're right wing? Running away won't make it go away. What you're saying has basically happened and has allowed this rot to set in the first place.
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(Original post by Tolgash)
Are you sure about the universities in the US? I doubt they're all in the public sector lol.
As with the US healthcare sector, many of the entities operating in that field are only "private" to a degree. It's not really enough, IMO, to just look at what kind of legal entity an organisation is, but who its customers are, where its revenues primarily stem from, what rules govern what it can and can't do (which the article touches on in terms of how they enjoy the best of both worlds), how much market risk it actually assumes, and so on. Especially in heavily cartelised industries like healthcare and education. Many of these firms are hybrid entities when you put aside their legal entity and look at how they operate in practice. That also opens it up to the government to make any grants etc. conditional on tolerating ideological differences.
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(Original post by Starship Trooper)
Well the paper says:

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But I'm sure there are other things that can be done. Perhaps some sort of union?

Regardless, the first part of addressing a problem is acknowledging it's existence.
It's pure gaslighting, IMO, for people to default to "muh free market", as if there is anything remotely resembling this in academia. Of course they're all up in arms over all sorts of discrimination, some real, some fabricated, but when it comes to political ostracisation that suits them, it's just the "free market", bruh.
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Hardly surprising. Academia is insufferably left-wing.
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(Original post by 64Lightbulbs)
That's the free market my dude, do you think we should we start doing affirmative action in academics for conservatives?
Funny how left-wing academics aren't so happy to say "it's just the free market", when they perceive that women or ethnic minorities are under-represented.
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