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#21
Right wing people are just full of hatred and have backwards thinking. They seem to have a hatred for races and nationalities that aren’t the same of them. They can’t accept that this is the new world now where whites can live peacefully with other races, and gays/trans is okay. They’re jealous really 💅
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#22
(Original post by _gcx)
I'm not a conservative. I probably wouldn't vote seriously but if you twisted my arm and forced me to I'd probably vote libdems. I'm generally unwilling to vote for parties I don't align with so wouldn't vote labour.
I'm not a conservative. I probably wouldn't vote seriously but if you twisted my arm and forced me to I'd probably vote libdems. I'm generally unwilling to vote for parties I don't align with so wouldn't vote labour.
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#23
(Original post by Stark°3000)
Can you give me an example of ideas and belief that are inconsistent and contain double standards?
(Lol this sounds rude but I just want to have some sort of evaluation for the leftists)
Can you give me an example of ideas and belief that are inconsistent and contain double standards?
(Lol this sounds rude but I just want to have some sort of evaluation for the leftists)
- Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.
- It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but unacceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.
Stuff like that.
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#24
(Original post by BiggestLoser21)
This is a huge misconception a lot of Conservatives have. Why are universities so commercialised in the first place? Why is the world so ****ed up? Why are countries going to war over falsified information? Why are billionaires doing whatever they want? Why are our governments so useless? These are questions we ask ourselves but when we do, we get told to shut up and just accept it.
This is a huge misconception a lot of Conservatives have. Why are universities so commercialised in the first place? Why is the world so ****ed up? Why are countries going to war over falsified information? Why are billionaires doing whatever they want? Why are our governments so useless? These are questions we ask ourselves but when we do, we get told to shut up and just accept it.
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#25
(Original post by Stark°3000)
First of all, who are the left?/What makes someone a leftist?
First of all, who are the left?/What makes someone a leftist?
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So from what I gathered, leftist- people who believe that there is a ruling class in society and the free market exploits them, they want gender equality, support LGBTQ community, want more progressive taxes and government intervention?
Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and don't want as much government intervention as leftists?
Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and don't want as much government intervention as leftists?
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#27
(Original post by Malaysia_)
Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.
Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.
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Percieved hypocrisy.
I think it's a shame that these views represent such a diverse group of ideologies, so I hope we can move past them soon.
Basically yes
I think it's a shame that these views represent such a diverse group of ideologies, so I hope we can move past them soon.
(Original post by Stark°3000)
So from what I gathered, leftist- people who believe that there is a ruling class in society and the free market exploits them, they want gender equality, support LGBTQ community, want more progressive taxes and government intervention?
Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and aren't too keen on Government intervention?
So from what I gathered, leftist- people who believe that there is a ruling class in society and the free market exploits them, they want gender equality, support LGBTQ community, want more progressive taxes and government intervention?
Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and aren't too keen on Government intervention?
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(Original post by _gcx)
Sure:
Stuff like that.
Sure:
- Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.
- It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but not as acceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.
Stuff like that.
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no? people with left-handed can have many friends as well, I am left-handed but people do not dislike me...
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#32
(Original post by _gcx)
Sure:
Stuff like that.
Sure:
- Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.
- It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but not as acceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.
Stuff like that.
I'm not particularly left leaning politically. The above is not about left or right - its about you not understanding when skin colour is considered more important than other characteristics. Have you not ever wondered that?
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(Original post by Wanttobreakfree)
Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.
Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.
My teacher also said that blue (conservative) is the new red (labour), would you also agree with this statement?
Who do you think should be in charge of the labour party and why do you think it's less appealing nowadays?
Sorry I find you interesting so I wanna know what u think 😁✌️
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#34
(Original post by Wanttobreakfree)
Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.
Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.
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#35
(Original post by Malaysia_)
Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.
Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.
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(Original post by finlay291202)
And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.
And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.
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#37
(Original post by nexttime)
You don't understand racism or sexism then.
I'm not particularly left leaning politically. The above is not about left or right - its about you not understanding when skin colour is considered more important than other characteristics. Have you not ever wondered that?
You don't understand racism or sexism then.
I'm not particularly left leaning politically. The above is not about left or right - its about you not understanding when skin colour is considered more important than other characteristics. Have you not ever wondered that?
Claiming I'm less educated/aware because I disagree with you is one of the characteristics that annoy me I did not mention, for what it's worth. I have not seen as many on the right do that.
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#38
(Original post by finlay291202)
And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.
And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.
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#39
(Original post by Wanttobreakfree)
What does that even mean outside of an objective logically fallacious ad-hominem and false dichotomy attack? Come on friend at least let's have a good faith dialogue here. You've seen Q-anon right?
What does that even mean outside of an objective logically fallacious ad-hominem and false dichotomy attack? Come on friend at least let's have a good faith dialogue here. You've seen Q-anon right?
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#40
(Original post by Moonlight rain)
Right wing people are just full of hatred and have backwards thinking. They seem to have a hatred for races and nationalities that aren’t the same of them. They can’t accept that this is the new world now where whites can live peacefully with other races, and gays/trans is okay. They’re jealous really 💅
Right wing people are just full of hatred and have backwards thinking. They seem to have a hatred for races and nationalities that aren’t the same of them. They can’t accept that this is the new world now where whites can live peacefully with other races, and gays/trans is okay. They’re jealous really 💅
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