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Hello hello!

Was wondering if people would be able to share an example rota for an FY1? How many hours per week?

Would this description mean we won't get day shifts (9-5pm):
'Full shifts until 930pm. Weekend daytime cover. Seven nights as part of Hospital at Night cover.'

Would really appreciate advice on how to adapt to working patterns! Worried about 30-40 minute commutes alongside long hours
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Hello hello!

Was wondering if people would be able to share an example rota for an FY1? How many hours per week?

Would this description mean we won't get day shifts (9-5pm):
'Full shifts until 930pm. Weekend daytime cover. Seven nights as part of Hospital at Night cover.'

Would really appreciate advice on how to adapt to working patterns! Worried about 30-40 minute commutes alongside long hours
The majority of your shifts will still be 9-5.

The average hours will be 40 - 48 hours, and how much you are paid depends on how much unsocial hours you work (if it's not in England, then there'll be a universal banding if you work on-calls).

There will be frequent on-calls though, again it depends on your rota and in my experience it worked out on average of one long day per week, and a few nights every month.
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The majority of your shifts will still be 9-5.
Thank you! So if it doesn't mention weekday day shifts in the job description that doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be any?
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Thank you! So if it doesn't mention weekday day shifts in the job description that doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be any?
What rotation is this? Is it something like A&E, acute medical unit cover or just a specialty job (e.g. Respiratory, Upper GI surgery etc.)?

There are some weird rotations whereby you may not ever work 9-5, e.g. A&E but these are vanishingly rare.

I suspect that it's just that 9-5 is "the basic" so they didn't bother mentioning it.
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What rotation is this? Is it something like A&E, acute medical unit cover or just a specialty job (e.g. Respiratory, Upper GI surgery etc.)?

There are some weird rotations whereby you may not ever work 9-5, e.g. A&E but these are vanishingly rare.

I suspect that it's just that 9-5 is "the basic" so they didn't bother mentioning it.
General Medicine!

Says it's mostly Ward based cover with out of hours cover for acute medicine as well as for general medical wards.
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General Medicine!

Says it's mostly Ward based cover with out of hours cover for acute medicine as well as for general medical wards.
In that case, I am pretty sure that my post of #2 applies.

Mostly Mon-Fri 9-5 with frequent on-call shifts. They just didn't bother putting in 9-5 because that's your "base rota".
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Agree with the above. This is normal format for describing jobs.
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What rotation is this? Is it something like A&E, acute medical unit cover or just a specialty job (e.g. Respiratory, Upper GI surgery etc.)?

There are some weird rotations whereby you may not ever work 9-5, e.g. A&E but these are vanishingly rare.

I suspect that it's just that 9-5 is "the basic" so they didn't bother mentioning it.
My first F1 job is acute med in a tertiary hospital (RVI newcastle). They are having rota issues so I havn't got a work schedule or rota yet. Are the hours likely to be horrid?
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You should have had a generic work schedule by now and so the trust are in breach of contract, you should give the BMA a call for support with chasing this up.
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You should have had a generic work schedule by now and so the trust are in breach of contract, you should give the BMA a call for support with chasing this up.
I chased it up myself today to be told the trust haven’t given it out yet. I’ll give the bma a ring tomorrow. Thank you
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You should have had a generic work schedule by now and so the trust are in breach of contract, you should give the BMA a call for support with chasing this up.
Does this also apply to Scotland?
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Scotland don't have work schedules but you should have your rota with 6 weeks notice so by next Wednesday latest.
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when can/should you book for annual leave and how do you know which week you will be starting on from the schedule? do you give this to the bma to look at or your actual rota

how many /long breaks are you allowed in a day
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when can/should you book for annual leave and how do you know which week you will be starting on from the schedule? do you give this to the bma to look at or your actual rota

how many /long breaks are you allowed in a day
You get one 30 min break on a shift <9 hours. That can be hard to take on some rotations though. That increase to two 30 min breaks on shifts up to 13 hours.
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Does anyone know if I'm going to a 2-day national conference during my first rotation, if I should book time off as annual leave or study leave?
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Does anyone know if I'm going to a 2-day national conference during my first rotation, if I should book time off as annual leave or study leave?
It will be annual leave unless you have a very generous rota coordinator. All of your study days in foundation years are generally accounted for by the mandatory courses/study days you have to do.
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Does anyone know if I'm going to a 2-day national conference during my first rotation, if I should book time off as annual leave or study leave?
Probably annual leave, but worth asking. I got given a week of 'unofficial' study leave during FY1 because I was doing an exam - the consultant just said he wouldn't tell anyone
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It will be annual leave unless you have a very generous rota coordinator. All of your study days in foundation years are generally accounted for by the mandatory courses/study days you have to do.
I thought it might be a long shot! :')
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Probably annual leave, but worth asking. I got given a week of 'unofficial' study leave during FY1 because I was doing an exam - the consultant just said he wouldn't tell anyone
The plan was to be super nice to everyone when I arrive but now I'll be super extra nice.
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Cn you get relocation/trvel expenses -who do you ask?

Can some one quicky go through roles/who to approach if need help as fy1
Like if you have sudden bereavment-who to contact-what do you do....
Role of fdpd,etc what is psu etc?
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