Why are those leading the country so incompetent?

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It baffles me how there's so much competition for things like university places and jobs meaning that only the very best get selected, but when it comes to government you end up with gavin, patel and hancock. How does that even happen?

Forget the political party, literally anyone could do a better job.
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Money is power
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You can go worse than your examples: a man as limited as Chris Grayling should have have been given a position of responsibly. Yet he was repeatedly rewarded for his costly failures with further ministerial roles.


There are two reasons for this. Firstly, the Conservative Party prefer background and connections over ability or merit. It allows talentless individuals to rise high. Secondly, British people are disproportionately conservative. Far too many people still show deference towards those they perceive to belong to a higher social class. Their faith in the conservative establishment to guide them through life means they are reluctant to criticise the government. You can see this by looking at the willingness to make excuses for running a budget deficit for eleven years while squandering billions that they don't have. If Labour had that woeful track record, people would be up in arms.
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Hancock's done OK really.

On a wider point of why don't we get the best people into politics, generally - well, it's hardly complicated. The pay is, comparative to significant jobs in the private sector, crap. In addition, you get endless grief from the press who feel quite happy to intrude into every aspect of your private life. Despite your skills, you're generally expected to tour round village halls and speak to every lunatic in your constituency who wants to moan about something and doesn't know how to communicate with people. Come election time, you'll be expected to be an unpaid leaflet distributer, door-knocker and cold-caller - probably getting abuse off the people you've worked on behalf of for five years.

Above all this, you get **** for going on holiday. You get **** for taking the weekend off. Your working days can be extremely long and you'll often have to live between two places. And there's no boardroom quite as mad as the House of Commons.

It's not exactly an attractive proposition.
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(Original post by Calibrated.)
You can go worse than your examples: a man as limited as Chris Grayling should have have been given a position of responsibly. Yet he was repeatedly rewarded for his costly failures with further ministerial roles.


There are two reasons for this. Firstly, the Conservative Party prefer background and connections over ability or merit. It allows talentless individuals to rise high. Secondly, British people are disproportionately conservative. Far too many people still show deference towards those they perceive to belong to a higher social class. Their faith in the conservative establishment to guide them through life means they are reluctant to criticise the government. You can see this by looking at the willingness to make excuses for running a budget deficit for eleven years while squandering billions that they don't have. If Labour had that woeful track record, people would be up in arms.
Chris Grayling may have made a **** minister, but he's hardly Little Lord Fauntleroy. He was a fairly run of the mill grammar school boy from Buckinghamshire.
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I agree with a lot of what Lib said.

That said I disagree with OP who seems to think the rest of the country private/ public sector is doing any better. Blair took the country down the s****er years ago.

In fact as useless as BoJo and the rest of them are this is the best government of my lifetime- far better than the MayBot, Dodgy Dave and New Labour.
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It baffles me how there's so much competition for things like university places and jobs meaning that only the very best get selected, but when it comes to government you end up with gavin, patel and hancock. How does that even happen?

Forget the political party, literally anyone could do a better job.
It is normal for Governments to run out of talent. Governments come into office with the brightest and the best. Over time Ministers get sacked for some peccadillo or fall out with the PM or get sick and tired of it all. Over time the quality drops, but because failing Ministers remain on the backbenchs that stops new talent coming through.

Normally failing Governments are replaced by a better quality opposition. A lot of MPs are culled when a party loses but as the party starts growing again, it grows with new blood. That happened in 1945, 1951,1964, 1979, 1997 and 2010. The problem was that Corbyn disrupted the rebirth of Labour. Rather than improve, the Labour front bench of 2019 was much weaker than in 2015.
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Theres a fun saying about this, alas ive forgotten the exact phrasing, suffice it to say it related to their being an inverse correlation to the stupidest rising the farthest. The peter principle if memory serves.
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Leave Priti alone!
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