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It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
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(Original post by alishahz30)
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
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(Original post by alishahz30)
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
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(Original post by alishahz30)
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
Don't use them for that assessment.
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(Original post by alishahz30)
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
Look at which metrics Sussex scores poorly on in the guardian. Dig into more details on the discover uni website and decide if those weaknesses are important for you to thrive on the course.
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(Original post by Mr Wednesday)
Remember that these newspaper rankings are partially designed to draw in views, comments and click, they each use fundamentally different metrics so need to be used with some care and their statistical analysis tends to be pretty sketchy in places. THE tends to be pretty solid and relatively consistent year to year in my opinion, but the Guardian throws up some really odd rankings, and it’s also very prone to MAJOR shifts in position from year to year, which is simply not “physical”, that is an indication of the methodology changing a lot. It tends to weight student satisfaction (which is a very poor metric and exceptionally hard to benchmark between universities) rather than research strength. Sure, universities do go up or down over time, but do they really “improve” or "fall" 20-40 places ?
Remember that these newspaper rankings are partially designed to draw in views, comments and click, they each use fundamentally different metrics so need to be used with some care and their statistical analysis tends to be pretty sketchy in places. THE tends to be pretty solid and relatively consistent year to year in my opinion, but the Guardian throws up some really odd rankings, and it’s also very prone to MAJOR shifts in position from year to year, which is simply not “physical”, that is an indication of the methodology changing a lot. It tends to weight student satisfaction (which is a very poor metric and exceptionally hard to benchmark between universities) rather than research strength. Sure, universities do go up or down over time, but do they really “improve” or "fall" 20-40 places ?
And the weighting on NSS is lower in the subject tables than the Complete and Times rankings.
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The Guardian methodology doesn’t change substantially year on year. - it just doesn’t have 2003-2014 REF data buffering the rankings.
And the weighting on NSS is lower in the subject tables than the Complete and Times rankings.
The Guardian methodology doesn’t change substantially year on year. - it just doesn’t have 2003-2014 REF data buffering the rankings.
And the weighting on NSS is lower in the subject tables than the Complete and Times rankings.
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(Original post by alishahz30)
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
It is very difficult and confusing for international students to choose a university on the basis of rankings, I am also among them, I chose my universities on the basis of the best world subject rankings and now guardian rankings show them to be worst. Which rankings should we trust and which one is better to follow.
e.g economics in sussex is ranked in top 10 in UK in world rankings where as guardian shows it to be in the 40's.
I understand that university rankings play an important role in choosing which university to go to.
I have found that focusing on the course content and whether the course is properly accredited is more important than looking at the overall rankings, as the rankings can fluctuate a lot and there are numerous factors that come into play.
You may be disappointed if you choose a university sorely off of university rankings, and find out later that the rankings have gone down when you graduate. I would advise you to look at the course content and choose a university where you will enjoy spending 3+ years of your time. If you are enjoying university life, you will probably perform better in return as you are more motivated.
I hope this helps, if you have any further questions please let me know!
Kind Regards,
Erica
(3rd Year BSc Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence)
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