To what extent do different socialists agree over the role of the state

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just tell me some basic ideas or a basic small summary if you can please and thank you
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Socialists vary massively when it comes to the role of the state.
All socialists believe that the means of production/distribution should be owned and controlled by the public.
Some think that this can be best achieved if they are owned by the state, which represents the interests of the public.
Others think that this can be best achieved if they are owned collectively by the workers themselves.
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here are the some bullet points i have on my notes, hope it helps.

1) Socialism disagrees over the role of the state in organising a socialist economy. Revolutionary socialists Marx and Engels envisaged the state withering away as a communist society would emerge free from internal class conflict. Democratic socialist Beatrice Webb argued for the expansion of the state, with specialised administrators to organise, plan and regulate the economy.
2)Anthony Crosland disagreed with Marx and Engels, arguing that the economy no longer had the inherent contradictions that they described and that capitalism could be managed for the benefits of society.
3)Giddens disagrees with the extensive wealth and welfare distributions favoured by social democracy. Crosland argued such equality of welfae was true to the egalitarian core principle of socialism
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