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#61
(Original post by AlphaZeta)
This project would not have got off the drawing board if it concerned Moses.
This project would not have got off the drawing board if it concerned Moses.
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#62
(Original post by Ascend)
Remind us again when Jewish extremists have killed Westerners for satirising Moses?
Remind us again when Jewish extremists have killed Westerners for satirising Moses?
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#64
(Original post by AlphaZeta)
We define the limits
https://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-pol...be-hate-crime/
We define the limits
https://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-pol...be-hate-crime/
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#65
(Original post by Ascend)
Wait, what's with the 'we' ****? Are you claiming to be speaking on behalf of UK's Jewish population?
Wait, what's with the 'we' ****? Are you claiming to be speaking on behalf of UK's Jewish population?
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#66
(Original post by Cheese Bits)
It is strange that you are accusing others of being insane when you are complaining about the free expression of cartoons that Muslims regard as offensive, yet in another thread you are raging about censorship over something as irrelevant as Dr. Seuss books. You may want to develop some consistency in your beliefs.
It is strange that you are accusing others of being insane when you are complaining about the free expression of cartoons that Muslims regard as offensive, yet in another thread you are raging about censorship over something as irrelevant as Dr. Seuss books. You may want to develop some consistency in your beliefs.
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#67
(Original post by DiddyDec)
The protesters want their perceived pound of flesh so to speak.
The protesters want their perceived pound of flesh so to speak.
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#68
(Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
We can only hope this happens.
We can only hope this happens.
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#69
(Original post by AlphaZeta)
This is all premeditated, they knew very well the response from the parents. A good little ‘side-show’ to distract from the main event in Bristol.
This project would not have got off the drawing board if it concerned Moses.
This is all premeditated, they knew very well the response from the parents. A good little ‘side-show’ to distract from the main event in Bristol.
This project would not have got off the drawing board if it concerned Moses.
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#70
Ridiculous. This headteacher is a joke. He is giving a clear message to his teaching staff and the local community that - when it comes to Islam - the usual rules give way to intimation. The only possible discourse is on their terms: what offends them. But this freedom of expression goes both ways. What about the limitless people who find the tenants of Islam offensive? And yet, I wouldn't dream of restricting another person's right of expression as a result of their faith's affront. Because we continually surrender fights and challenges, and nobody quite knows when the precious feelings of some aggrieved Muslims are infringed; Islam (like some doctrinaire ideology) controls its own narrative otherwise it must be conducted above whisper.
Muslims will say that their prophet Mohamed is absolutely sacred and any such depiction is forbidden. But this is completely & utterly 100% irrelevant. It may be forbidden in their religion. If they want to be good Muslims, then they shouldn't do it. But they have no right to demand that others follow the tenants of their faith. Such an imposition is a real breach of civility and tolerance in a multi-cultural multi-ethnic hodgepodge. We all tolerate things we disapprove and dislike because we grant other people some modicum of respect.
I saw this line on the BBC article:
One of the protesters, a local resident who gave his name as Abdullah, said the cartoon offended "the whole Muslim community".
Why do these ultra-Orthodox sectarian ancahronists pretend they speak for everyone else. Most of my Muslim friends could care less about cartoons!!
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Muslims will say that their prophet Mohamed is absolutely sacred and any such depiction is forbidden. But this is completely & utterly 100% irrelevant. It may be forbidden in their religion. If they want to be good Muslims, then they shouldn't do it. But they have no right to demand that others follow the tenants of their faith. Such an imposition is a real breach of civility and tolerance in a multi-cultural multi-ethnic hodgepodge. We all tolerate things we disapprove and dislike because we grant other people some modicum of respect.
I saw this line on the BBC article:
One of the protesters, a local resident who gave his name as Abdullah, said the cartoon offended "the whole Muslim community".
Why do these ultra-Orthodox sectarian ancahronists pretend they speak for everyone else. Most of my Muslim friends could care less about cartoons!!
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#71
(Original post by Starship Trooper)
How is geert Wilders a 'far right autocrat'???
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
How is geert Wilders a 'far right autocrat'???
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
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#72
Laughable honestly, they do realise the cartoon isn't even an accurate portrayal of the prophet? They are getting outraged over nothing
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#73
Hmmm.
It's always the loudest minority who get their voices heard and who always claim they represent the whole of their religion.
This is about hard-line minorities (from within a larger collective) dictating the whole narrative and closing down challenges to their hegemony by using the British public culture for guilt, tolerance and apology.
To see where this leads look towards Hong Kong, Taiwan, Kremlin, North Korea, Xi Jingping's PRC and religious extremism.
Religious fascism is a real and present danger.
It's always the loudest minority who get their voices heard and who always claim they represent the whole of their religion.
This is about hard-line minorities (from within a larger collective) dictating the whole narrative and closing down challenges to their hegemony by using the British public culture for guilt, tolerance and apology.
To see where this leads look towards Hong Kong, Taiwan, Kremlin, North Korea, Xi Jingping's PRC and religious extremism.
Religious fascism is a real and present danger.
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#74
The Purpose of Life charity has been reported to the Charity Commission for leaving the teacher in danger of “physical harm” by publishing his name online.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
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(Original post by harrysbar)
The Purpose of Life charity has been reported to the Charity Commission for leaving the teacher in danger of “physical harm” by publishing his name online.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
The Purpose of Life charity has been reported to the Charity Commission for leaving the teacher in danger of “physical harm” by publishing his name online.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
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#76
All the best to these fellows:
Police, spies and legal experts forming new Counter Terrorism Operations Centre
Police, spies and legal experts forming new Counter Terrorism Operations Centre
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#77
(Original post by Ascend)
All the best to these fellows:
Police, spies and legal experts forming new Counter Terrorism Operations Centre
All the best to these fellows:
Police, spies and legal experts forming new Counter Terrorism Operations Centre
If this was an army:- is it the general staff, the staff college, a reconnaisance regiment or a company command post?
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#78
(Original post by nulli tertius)
Is it a policy institute; a tactical research institute, an intelligence gathering centre or a control room?
If this was an army:- is it the general staff, the staff college, a reconnaisance regiment or a company command post?
Is it a policy institute; a tactical research institute, an intelligence gathering centre or a control room?
If this was an army:- is it the general staff, the staff college, a reconnaisance regiment or a company command post?
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#79
(Original post by harrysbar)
The Purpose of Life charity has been reported to the Charity Commission for leaving the teacher in danger of “physical harm” by publishing his name online.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
The Purpose of Life charity has been reported to the Charity Commission for leaving the teacher in danger of “physical harm” by publishing his name online.
A Charity Commission spokesman said: “We are aware of this matter. We have contacted the trustees of Purpose of Life today for further information and their response to our regulatory concerns; this will inform our next steps.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...danger-outing/
The people who have complained that the Purpose of Life should not have published his name are the Free Speech Union.
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#80
(Original post by Azagthoa)
This is a clear case of islamophobia and incitement on the teacher's part. It is right that he should be sacked and face prosecution. This goes far beyond free speech and into the realms of hate speech. He knew that it would upset and offend his muslim pupils yet he did it anyway.
This is a clear case of islamophobia and incitement on the teacher's part. It is right that he should be sacked and face prosecution. This goes far beyond free speech and into the realms of hate speech. He knew that it would upset and offend his muslim pupils yet he did it anyway.
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