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Hi,

I’ve recently received an offer from both UCL and Imperial. Whilst I am very thankful to be in this position, it does of course leave me with a really tough decision.

I was just hoping for peoples input regarding this topic, either from their own personal experience from the unis for medicine or even just through their own research. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Imperial all the way baby

I was in the same situation and it was a no brainer to firm Imperial as I much preferred their couse. I know people at UCL who are enjoying it but I think I made the right decision as it seems much more interactive here and we have placements in first and second year.

Edit: I am horribly biased yes :rofl:
Declaration of interests: Imperial medic, contractually obliged to disparage UCL, as part of ICSM Boat once discussed trying to sink UCL sculls as part of our race plan
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Hi,

I’ve recently received an offer from both UCL and Imperial. Whilst I am very thankful to be in this position, it does of course leave me with a really tough decision.

I was just hoping for peoples input regarding this topic, either from their own personal experience from the unis for medicine or even just through their own research. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Biased comment alert above :rofl:

Just to balance a few things - UCL has some world-class affiliated hospitals, like the National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery, Moorfields Eye Hospital etc.

I don't know about their teaching though, so hopefully a UCL medic can come and explain!
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Biased comment alert above :rofl:

Just to balance a few things - UCL has some world-class affiliated hospitals, like the National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery, Moorfields Eye Hospital etc.

I don't know about their teaching though, so hopefully a UCL medic can come and explain!
Hey I've acknowledged it now
We have a major trauma centre (Mary's) and Charing Cross does neurosurgery!
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Hey I've acknowledged it now
We have a major trauma centre (Mary's) and Charing Cross does neurosurgery!
PRSOM, all med schools should have a neurosurgical / trauma centre (due to teaching hospital status) but some will have to share (e.g. Newcastle and Sunderland; Aston and Birmingham) just because they are sooo near!

And I am sure Imperial will have a dedicated eye hospital in one of its affiliated hospitals too. It's just not Moorfields! :lol:
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Imperial all the way baby

I was in the same situation and it was a no brainer to firm Imperial as I much preferred their couse. I know people at UCL who are enjoying it but I think I made the right decision as it seems much more interactive here and we have placements in first and second year.

Edit: I am horribly biased yes :rofl:
Declaration of interests: Imperial medic, contractually obliged to disparage UCL, as part of ICSM Boat once discussed trying to sink UCL sculls as part of our race plan
Thanks so much for the reply!

I completely understand your bias, I’d probably be too.

If you don’t mind answering, what year are you currently in and how have you found the PBL side of the course to be? Also what kind of disruptions have you seen to placements as of late due to the pandemic?
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I’m not sure whether to firm Imperial or UCL. Any advice is much appreciated
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I’m not sure whether to firm Imperial or UCL. Any advice is much appreciated
Happy to answer any questions about UCL as I’m alumni
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I’m not sure whether to firm Imperial or UCL. Any advice is much appreciated
Read the above :lol:
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Thanks so much for the reply!

I completely understand your bias, I’d probably be too.

If you don’t mind answering, what year are you currently in and how have you found the PBL side of the course to be? Also what kind of disruptions have you seen to placements as of late due to the pandemic?
No worries

I'm currently a first year (AnnaBananana is a second year and AortaStudyMore is a final year if you've any questions for older students)
I've found the Clinical Skills Integration stuff to be good fun - I like the idea of it and it really helps you make links with the more 'normal' science teaching as it links up (we did a case on COPD around the same time as our cardioresp module for example). The teaching can be a bit patchy in the tutorials but I like the pre- and post-reading as it makes you feel like a proper doctor looking up NICE guidelines and surfing the BNF, plus those research skills are really useful. The exams are fine, assessed group work over zoom is a bit of a drag but we move.

Our placements have all still gone ahead this year which is amazing when many other med schools have cancelled apparently. Our GP placements in 1st year went from a half day in the surgery and then a group meeting in the surgery, to around 1hr in the surgery and a teams meeting, but it was still good fun. I'm salty about the four word total feedback I got after a whole seminar on how we had to really reflect on our feedback, but that's just our GP We have 2 weeks of hospital placement after our exams in May and I'm super excited.
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Read the above :lol:
Haha thanks
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PRSOM, all med schools should have a neurosurgical / trauma centre (due to teaching hospital status) but some will have to share (e.g. Newcastle and Sunderland; Aston and Birmingham) just because they are sooo near!

And I am sure Imperial will have a dedicated eye hospital in one of its affiliated hospitals too. It's just not Moorfields! :lol:
But this is a major one!! UCL is the only London uni that just has a boring non-major trauma centre! :lol:

We have Western Eye Hospital...famous alumni include Bashar Al-Assad

More Random Imperial Hospital Facts now I'm on Wikipedia: Mary's has all the royal births, Hammersmith "played a significant role in founding endocrine surgery", and Charing Cross has the largest UK GIC, if anyone cares? (I do and am really hoping for an endo hospital placement there)
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But this is a major one!! UCL is the only London uni that just has a boring non-major trauma centre! :lol:

We have Western Eye Hospital...famous alumni include Bashar Al-Assad

More Random Imperial Hospital Facts now I'm on Wikipedia: Mary's has all the royal births, Hammersmith "played a significant role in founding endocrine surgery", and Charing Cross has the largest UK GIC, if anyone cares? (I do and am really hoping for an endo hospital placement there)
London and its national hospitals! :rofl:

I am sure they are all very noteworthy and OP should definitely take it into consideration :yes:
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London and its national hospitals! :rofl:

I am sure they are all very noteworthy and OP should definitely take it into consideration :yes:
"centres of excellence" all :lol:

:yes: and then they will spend all their placements at the Hillingdon
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"centres of excellence" all :lol:

:yes: and then they will spend all their placements at the Hillingdon
I don't even know if Hillingdon is good or bad :rofl3: It could be an international centre of excellent after all :lol:

We need Medic_20: can you please tell us your experience to balance out all this pre-Imperial bias? :laugh:
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I don't even know if Hillingdon is good or bad :rofl3: It could be an international centre of excellent after all :lol:

We need Medic_20 !


Can you please tell us your experience to balance out all this pre-Imperial bias? :laugh:
I mean it is literally currently unsafe to work in, they just can't decide where to put the new hospital! https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ngdon-hospital
But we all hate it because it's the furthest you can get placed from SK :lol:

But yes we need a UCL medic!! Tbf UCL seems much better organised than Imperial, although that's not hard
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...Tbf UCL seems much better organised than Imperial, although that's not hard
Haha I hope no one from Imperial is here reading this :rofl:
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Haha I hope no one from Imperial is here reading this :rofl:
Yes the thread would become 1000 pages long with people piling on to complain about admin :rofl:

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Happy to answer any questions about UCL as I’m alumni
Thanks!

I was wondering if UCL has any group assessed work on the course currently, and if so, what is the weighting of it overall/ what are your thoughts on it?

I’d also like to extend this to becausethenight. What is the weighting of your group assessed exams overall?
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Thanks!

I was wondering if UCL has any group assessed work on the course currently, and if so, what is the weighting of it overall/ what are your thoughts on it?

I’d also like to extend this to becausethenight. What is the weighting of your group assessed exams overall?
Two of our modules are assessed with group work in first year - Clinical Skills Integration and Lifestyle Medicine and Population Health - they both count for 20% of the final credits I think but it’s pass fail, so you either pass and get all the credits or fail and get none. If you fail you’d have to resit.

LMAP is assessed via a group podcast and CSI with roughly monthly exams on each case where you answer 10 questions on your own, the same 10 in your team, and then do a group task for 75mins. Both are designed to be practically impossible to fail and historically no one has.

Can’t speak for the other years of the degree though - clinical will be different for sure.
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