Most international economics will say that there is NO SUCH thing as ‘global poverty’ in the US (global poverty as defined by the World Bank as living on or under 1 US Dollar a day- per person). That being said it would inevitably throw those living under the poverty line (with net assets under 25,000 in the US) into either the world middle class or world upper class profiles- putting them in the top 22% of income brackets world wide and thus higher than 78% of the world.
(Original post by Kondar)
Alright smart guy, then why don’t you actually challenge me instead of SAYING you are going to challenge me. I stated facts that support my cause, lets see some from your side. Foul and obnoxious language, sarcasm, and hot air might have gotten you debater of the year, but it doesn’t get you anywhere with me. I can spot you a mile away, your use of all these juvenile tactics only highlight your inability to either debate or discuss issues here. But, if you feel like stepping up to the plate, then go back to my previous thread and read what I said. FACTS, not just hot air and insults, otherwise, don’t waste my time.
And ‘facts’ like “I know this one "middle class" Polish guy and he lives well” might work with others, but it wont work with me.
If I weren’t so polite I would say that you were an idiot.
I await your response...
This really proves that one can do just about anything with statistics. Let's take a look at it. What it is saying is that a person with net assets under $25,000 in the US would, if they lived in a "world average" country be considered middle class. But the "world average" country includes such places as the Sudan, Afghanistan, Chad, and many many more like it where poverty is so rife that you could probably retire on $25k in the lap of luxury.
Now I don't have the time or inclination to pour through lots and lots of statistics (like the meaningless one's you have selected) but let's think about some attributes of a middle class Pole for example. I think you'll find that college education is common, as is home/vehicle ownership, and all the other "quality of life" type things (vacations/decent furnishings etc) that we associate with "middleclassness" Now let's have a look at the poor American with a net worth (I assume that's what they mean by net assets) of $25k. $25K in the US is such a desultary (you couldn't buy the front porch of my house for that) amount of money it is unreal. This person is very unlikely to exhibit any of the middleclass lifestyle our Polish friend enjoys.
I'm afraid your statistics are meaningless as far as the point you are trying to make. I know you hate anecdotes and prefer to rake as gospel anything a statitician tells you without bothering to explore it on an apples for apples basis but take a drive around East St.Louis (poor America) and then take a drive around a middle class neighborhood in Crakow. I know where I'd rather live.
Now, either I've been in a myopic state during the time I have lived variously in the UK, the US, Guatemala, Mexico, Uzbekistan, and Belize (the country of my birth) and travelled certainly as extensively (if not more so) as you or you are
a) lying about where you have been or
b) suffering from the fairly typical America delusion that the rest of the world (including Europe) is populated by people who live from subsistence turnip farming, wear quant little "traditional costumes", and still throw their slops directly out of the top window of their mud huts or
c) all of the above