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Hello,

I am currently an MEng student but I have the option to leave this year with a BEng, which I'm thinking of doing because I have been offered a job.

However, to achieve CEng (chartered engineer) in the UK you need to have a masters level qualification, so I would need to do an MSc at some point in the future to achieve this.

Pros of MEng
  • Funded by SFE
  • Only 120 credits versus 180 for an MSc
  • No more formal education once done

Cons of MEng
  • Not a recognised PG qualification abroad
  • Lose out on a job offer
  • One more year in school as oppose to working

Pros of MSc
  • Recognised abroad
  • Potentially (more likely) funded by employer
  • Opportunity to specialise

Cons of MSc
  • More work compared to MEng
  • Stress of working and doing an MSc concurrently
  • No guarantee work will pay for it

Even though I have a graduate job offer, I do also have an offer to do a summer placement, so even if I did choose to do the MEng I would still have an internship for over the summer (my plan at the moment is to do both the internship and graduate job).

If you were in my situation, what route would you choose?

Thanks for your help.
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physgradstudent
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You've got all of the pros and cons so really it's down to you now to do what feels right.

Also just to note you might want to look into postgraduate loans. You can get these from sfe for up to around £10,000 to cover some of your costs of the MSc if you go down that route.

You're in a really good position with the graduate job offer, so if it's a job you really want I'd say take it while you've got it, because there's no guarantee you'll get a good offer next year.
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I work in a UK engineering firm, and all my colleagues that are under about 30 have the MEng degree. If you plan to stay in the UK and be an engineer, the MEng is a great option. We get a lot of year-in-industry students who are doing the MEng and often make offers of a graduate place to them if they perform well, so you could very well get an offer out of your summer internship. Lack of chartership potential due to "only" having a BEng would mean you have to start doing your MSc around four-five years into your career, which is tough.

If you're thinking about potential PhDs later, and overseas, then the MSc is going to give you credentials that may be more understood internationally.
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(Original post by JaakMaddison)
Hello,

I am currently an MEng student but I have the option to leave this year with a BEng, which I'm thinking of doing because I have been offered a job.

However, to achieve CEng (chartered engineer) in the UK you need to have a masters level qualification, so I would need to do an MSc at some point in the future to achieve this.

Pros of MEng
  • Funded by SFE
  • Only 120 credits versus 180 for an MSc
  • No more formal education once done

Cons of MEng
  • Not a recognised PG qualification abroad
  • Lose out on a job offer
  • One more year in school as oppose to working

Pros of MSc
  • Recognised abroad
  • Potentially (more likely) funded by employer
  • Opportunity to specialise

Cons of MSc
  • More work compared to MEng
  • Stress of working and doing an MSc concurrently
  • No guarantee work will pay for it

Even though I have a graduate job offer, I do also have an offer to do a summer placement, so even if I did choose to do the MEng I would still have an internship for over the summer (my plan at the moment is to do both the internship and graduate job).

If you were in my situation, what route would you choose?

Thanks for your help.
You actually don't specifically need a masters to achieve chartership: it's "masters level knowledge", which can be demonstrated via your work. Although it is easier to demonstrate it via a masters, which ticks the box, no further requirements on that front.

In terms of work and career, which opportunity appeals to you the most: the company offering the job, or the one offering the internship?
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You don't specify which area of engineering you're in. My husband is a manager in a Silicon Valley electronics company. He says that you should base your decision on how good the job offer is. Experience in electronics is more important than chartered status and it is easy to get good jobs if you have a proven track record. He has an MEng, but has never bothered getting chartered status and he's very high up in his company. For civil engineering, chartered status is very important.
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I wouldn’t decide this till after year 2 of your undergrad studies.

Good reasons to consider an MSc is:
-fundamental direction change, i.e. change of discipline
-specialisation within a field or niche area
-you want to change location or university
-you want to go into academic research & the MSc offers more research focused modules

I think of an MEng as more the default route, and the MSc if one of the above reasons is particularly appealing to you.
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(Original post by JaakMaddison)
Hello,

I am currently an MEng student but I have the option to leave this year with a BEng, which I'm thinking of doing because I have been offered a job.

However, to achieve CEng (chartered engineer) in the UK you need to have a masters level qualification, so I would need to do an MSc at some point in the future to achieve this.

Pros of MEng
  • Funded by SFE
  • Only 120 credits versus 180 for an MSc
  • No more formal education once done

Cons of MEng
  • Not a recognised PG qualification abroad
  • Lose out on a job offer
  • One more year in school as oppose to working

Pros of MSc
  • Recognised abroad
  • Potentially (more likely) funded by employer
  • Opportunity to specialise

Cons of MSc
  • More work compared to MEng
  • Stress of working and doing an MSc concurrently
  • No guarantee work will pay for it

Even though I have a graduate job offer, I do also have an offer to do a summer placement, so even if I did choose to do the MEng I would still have an internship for over the summer (my plan at the moment is to do both the internship and graduate job).

If you were in my situation, what route would you choose?

Thanks for your help.
Hey there JaakMaddison

That's a really good question. This was something that I was considering too when I started the course as I also studying civil engineering too! In the end I decided to go for the MEng route.

I am currently on my placement year (3rd year) after speaking to colleagues there they suggested I do an MEng because it's good to do it and get it out of the way and you can start working towards your chartership as soon as you start working. One of my colleagues did an MEng at my uni and then got chartered 4 years after graduating (probably the shortest time I've heard for someone to get chartered), so it will save you time in that sense.

I'm not too familiar about MEng being familiar abroad, but I can imagine you getting opportunities to work abroad once you have gained experience in the working world. Also, if you work for an international company in the UK or work on international projects you can get that opportunity regardless.

I'm sure you will still get graduate offers after you do MEng, if anything they will favour you more if you have a masters as you will be enroute towards a chartership.

I decided to go for MEng mainly because it's funded by SFE and I wanted to get it out of the way. Also it will mean I graduate with my friends because they're all planning to do an MEng get chartered.
If you know to have to do a masters in the future then I would suggest you do MEng. Get it out of the way and because you're already in the studying mindset currently in final year so it will be easier for you to adjust to the work load. Definitely do the internship in the summer because experience is so beneficial in the long run and hopefully you get more opportunities through it.

Hope this helps!

All the best
Anna Civil Eng
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Hey there JaakMaddison

That's a really good question. This was something that I was considering too when I started the course as I also studying civil engineering too! In the end I decided to go for the MEng route.

I am currently on my placement year (3rd year) after speaking to colleagues there they suggested I do an MEng because it's good to do it and get it out of the way and you can start working towards your chartership as soon as you start working. One of my colleagues did an MEng at my uni and then got chartered 4 years after graduating (probably the shortest time I've heard for someone to get chartered), so it will save you time in that sense.

I'm not too familiar about MEng being familiar abroad, but I can imagine you getting opportunities to work abroad once you have gained experience in the working world. Also, if you work for an international company in the UK or work on international projects you can get that opportunity regardless.

I'm sure you will still get graduate offers after you do MEng, if anything they will favour you more if you have a masters as you will be enroute towards a chartership.

I decided to go for MEng mainly because it's funded by SFE and I wanted to get it out of the way. Also it will mean I graduate with my friends because they're all planning to do an MEng get chartered.
If you know to have to do a masters in the future then I would suggest you do MEng. Get it out of the way and because you're already in the studying mindset currently in final year so it will be easier for you to adjust to the work load. Definitely do the internship in the summer because experience is so beneficial in the long run and hopefully you get more opportunities through it.

Hope this helps!

All the best
Anna Civil Eng
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Either way is okay, a year goes past quick.

Personally if you have been offered a job and you can see yourself enjoying it and it is well paid or has good progression opportunities then I would go for that. It can be hard for another one to come up + you have an extra year student debt instead of earning. You can also do the masters later for CEng.

Would you regret not carrying on with the masters and getting it over with? I done MEng and it hasn't helped me in my job searching process tbh, I even felt like it held me back when I was applying to small/medium engineering firms because usually the people interviewing me (and previous bosses) only had college-level qualifications. I got the feeling that they didn't want their superiors questioning why they were a boss to someone more qualified than them and they never failed to point out how "uni graduates are clueless" to me.
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Either way is okay, a year goes past quick.

Personally if you have been offered a job and you can see yourself enjoying it and it is well paid or has good progression opportunities then I would go for that. It can be hard for another one to come up + you have an extra year student debt instead of earning. You can also do the masters later for CEng.

Would you regret not carrying on with the masters and getting it over with? I done MEng and it hasn't helped me in my job searching process tbh, I even felt like it held me back when I was applying to small/medium engineering firms because usually the people interviewing me (and previous bosses) only had college-level qualifications. I got the feeling that they didn't want their superiors questioning why they were a boss to someone more qualified than them and they never failed to point out how "uni graduates are clueless" to me.
What do you do now just out of curiosity?
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