Are clinical psychologists basically therapists?

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Clinical psychologists talk to people and council them, right? And therapists do the same, so are they the same thing?
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(Original post by jaxp)
Clinical psychologists talk to people and council them, right? And therapists do the same, so are they the same thing?
A therapist is someone who works with patients to diagnose and treat mental and emotional disorders.

a clinical psychologist(clinical psychology) specialty of psychology that:

Provides continuing and comprehensive mental health care for people and families.
Consults with agencies and communities.
Trains, educates and supervises other mental health professionals.
Is research-based.


a therapist is more one and one and a clinical psychologist is people like Jordan Peterson check him out.
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All clinical psychologists are required to have skills in therapy and are one of the few mental health clinicans whose basic training covers more than one model of therapy (normally CBT and one other for most courses). However, they are also required to have skills in research, neuropsychological assessment and cross lifespan training from Child, Adult, Learning Disabilities and Older adults. The majority do some amount of therapy, but they will also do other things because of their skillset.

For instance, I do individual CBT and group therapy as part of my job (usually the more complex, risky and severe cases) but that takes up a third of my time. I spend another third managing, training and supervising other clinicians, and the other third engaging in research and service evaluation/ development. In contrast, some of those I manage (non-psychologists) are pretty much 100% therapist, and that is all they do.

You can get some psychologists who do 100% therapy, but they tend to be Band 7 more junior roles, and the expectation is as soon as you have some experience you start supervising and managing. Alternatively, in some clinical psychology areas (e.g. research, neuropsychology, service development) a clinical psychologist may not use any of their therapy training with patients. Instead they will be using some of their other skills. It's a bit like in medicine, where all medical doctors have a grounding in medicine, anatomy and surgery, but your average GP may not be using those surgery skills once they leave their core medical training.
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(Original post by shreyp7)
A therapist is someone who works with patients to diagnose and treat mental and emotional disorders.

a clinical psychologist(clinical psychology) specialty of psychology that:

Provides continuing and comprehensive mental health care for people and families.
Consults with agencies and communities.
Trains, educates and supervises other mental health professionals.
Is research-based.


a therapist is more one and one and a clinical psychologist is people like Jordan Peterson check him out.
So you’re pushing misogyny and incel culture and you’re incorrect to boot.
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So you’re pushing misogyny and incel culture and you’re incorrect to boot.
Jordan Peterson is a divisive character but remember your own bias also. The OP is correct in their description that he is a clinical psychologist, but you are incorrect to leap from a descriptor to evidence of them specifically pushing incel culture. Working by your logic, me mentioning that piers Morgan is a TV personality, would mean I stand behind his ideology or comments.

Sorry if this seems antagonistic but we must be careful on both sides of how we communicate our views,

Greg
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Jordan Peterson is a divisive character but remember your own bias also. The OP is correct in their description that he is a clinical psychologist, but you are incorrect to leap from a descriptor to evidence of them specifically pushing incel culture. Working by your logic, me mentioning that piers Morgan is a TV personality, would mean I stand behind his ideology or comments.

Sorry if this seems antagonistic but we must be careful on both sides of how we communicate our views,

Greg
I would agree with you but this poster literally includes him in every other post he makes. He’s pushing an agenda.
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