Being black (Somali), gay and Muslim

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It is said by some scholars and high leaders of Islam that you can be a bit gay or leaning towards the same gender in Islam. Though this forbids you from ever acting upon your feelings ie sensual relations or any intimate relation with the same sex. It is prohibited to act gay. As this is considered a sin brother. I would recommend you to ask allah for guidance and taqwa. As also, do not share with your family. They will never accept it and that’s the truth. Do not share your sins. Ask Allah for help in your situation. Fear God. And remember that this life is simply a test and the after life is what we desire. So abstain from doing wrongfully. As to say, be obedient to your family, the only time you can oppose is when they are completely wrong about something or when they don’t follow the teachings of Islam. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said once that the easiest way to Jinnah (paradise) is through the obedience of the parents and making them happy.

In conclusion brother, you should really find your passion and find Allah through praying especially in these crucial last days. Do Not Have a gay relation ship, it is completely haram. Coming out would make the situation worse in my opinion, keep it to yourself. If Allah has kept it a secret then you should too. That concludes what I wanted to say. I hope you have a bright future and Allah award you paradise. Hopefully you are guided and loved by Allah. I hope you emerge yourself more in Islam. And allah will hopefully listen to you duaa. Allahuma help you inshallah. Please stay strong brother. Have a great day. Please. Read Quran and understand it’s teachings
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Salaam akhi,
You need to think about what you value in life.
If you value Islam, then follow Islam. (Love and respect your parents - sort any problems between you, don't commit pre/extra martial sex, etc)
If you value the (temporary) sexual reward during gay sex, then that's up to you. (consider what you want to be gay for? is it just the male body? are you stereotyping the 'typical' female and that's why you would prefer to be with a man?)
Remember Islam forbids any sexual activity before marriage (both homo and hetro sexual).
I'd recommend you to hold your feelings for now, not commit zina (adultery) and see how you're feeling about the whole situation after uni.
Of course what you want to do is up to you, and you can consider me biased in my approach (as I'm muslim).
I'd also recommend you talking to an Imam about everything, you can trust them to keep everything private and not share to anyone (just ask them). There are plenty of mosque's in London, and that all means plenty support available to you.
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of course there are gay Muslims, whether its feelings from the heart of lust and whatnot is debated a lot but it doesn't matter, Islam advises to keep those feelings and thoughts to yourself and not act upon them, thoughts and feelings aren't sins Allah doesn't sin you for them unless you act upon them, if you don't act upon them you are rewarded by Allah for avoiding acting on them. In islam relationship outside marriage is prohibited so a gay relationship or a straight relationship are both haram outside marriage. Marriage in islam is only allowed through woman and man, some Muslims believe they must get married to procreate, and they believe love is found through the obstacles and hardships married couples face and overcome together.

i hope you can mend your family relationship and become a happier person, may Allah give you strength and happiness
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Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has pardoned my nation for what occurs within themselves, as long as they do not speak of it or act upon it.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6664, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 127
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim

Ibn al-Qayyim said, “Know that passing thoughts are not harmful. Indeed, they are only harmful if they are sought after and engaged.”
Source: al-Jawāb al-Kāfī 1/157

Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has recorded good and evil deeds and He made them clear. Whoever intends to perform a good deed but does not do it, Allah will record it as a complete good deed. If he intends to do it and does so, Allah Almighty will record it as ten good deeds, up to seven hundred times as much or even more. If he intends to do an evil deed and does not do it, Allah will record for him one complete good deed. If he does it, Allah will record for him a single evil deed.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6491, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 131
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Haqq
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Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has pardoned my nation for what occurs within themselves, as long as they do not speak of it or act upon it.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6664, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 127
Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim

Ibn al-Qayyim said, “Know that passing thoughts are not harmful. Indeed, they are only harmful if they are sought after and engaged.”
Source: al-Jawāb al-Kāfī 1/157

Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has recorded good and evil deeds and He made them clear. Whoever intends to perform a good deed but does not do it, Allah will record it as a complete good deed. If he intends to do it and does so, Allah Almighty will record it as ten good deeds, up to seven hundred times as much or even more. If he intends to do an evil deed and does not do it, Allah will record for him one complete good deed. If he does it, Allah will record for him a single evil deed.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6491, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 131
thank you akhi!
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“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." - Mathew 5:17

Isn't this Jesus directly telling us that the Old Testament is not replaced, just a grounds upon the religion he came to fulfill?
Law of Moses = Old Testament
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I have recently been feeling emotional due to several reasons but they all lead back to my sexuality. I have recently seen the announcement of elite season 4 and saw some other clips of Omar and Andre and I related so much with Omar and I started to think about my future and if I will ever be happy or how I will tell my family even though they are not supportive and they have emotionally and physically abused me but also neglected me and my feelings. But being who I am I still want my family to love me ( which will never happen because they love control so much but that’s another story for another time). I have come out to my close friends as gay and they have been supportive a lot but unfortunately not to my family who are super homophobic. Luckily for me I am moving out on September to attend university of Manchester or Exeter to study law and plan to cut ties with my family when I am stable and get a corporate job which I will be when I am 22-23 year's old. What I wanted to ask you guys is so do you believe you can be Muslim and gay? And should I never come out in the future and stay as being the miserable person I am now?
Also I am currently 17 and in the London
I've said this in other threads, but being gay isn't something you can change. You can be gay and muslim if you want to, and God will love you the same regardless. As for your parents, it's up to you whether you come out to them or not. From what you've said, it sounds wise not to tell them until you're financially stable.
I'm also gay, 17 years old and in a somewhat similar position to you. My parents are also religious, so I'm going to keep it a secret from them too until university. I wouldn't be so fast to cut off your parents - for all you know, they could change and accept you for who you really are. If this is sadly not the case, at least you will have friends around to support you.
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Morality is derived from God, not society, and He is the one who will judge you when you die.

If you care about your soul, persevere through your trial and crack on with life. You may think you are entitled to being able to love who you want and that it is a right that you can demand off God but who said so?

Everyone has struggles - some are born disabled, some are born in poverty, others have abusive families, and others encounter problems later in life. No one's life is perfect and without trial, so don't have the expectation that yours should be trial free - this is your struggle if you want Jannah; if you want Hell, do what you want and follow your desires like others here are encouraging you to here.
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(Original post by Zamestaneh)
Morality is derived from God, not society, and He is the one who will judge you when you die.

If you care about your soul, persevere through your trial and crack on with life. You may think you are entitled to being able to love who you want and that it is a right that you can demand off God but who said so?

Everyone has struggles - some are born disabled, some are born in poverty, others have abusive families, and others encounter problems later in life. No one's life is perfect and without trial, so don't have the expectation that yours should be trial free - this is your struggle if you want Jannah; if you want Hell, do what you want and follow your desires like others here are encouraging you to here.
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Salaam akhi,
You need to think about what you value in life.
If you value Islam, then follow Islam. (Love and respect your parents - sort any problems between you, don't commit pre/extra martial sex, etc)
If you value the (temporary) sexual reward during gay sex, then that's up to you. (consider what you want to be gay for? is it just the male body? are you stereotyping the 'typical' female and that's why you would prefer to be with a man?)
Remember Islam forbids any sexual activity before marriage (both homo and hetro sexual).
I'd recommend you to hold your feelings for now, not commit zina (adultery) and see how you're feeling about the whole situation after uni.
Of course what you want to do is up to you, and you can consider me biased in my approach (as I'm muslim).
I'd also recommend you talking to an Imam about everything, you can trust them to keep everything private and not share to anyone (just ask them). There are plenty of mosque's in London, and that all means plenty support available to you.
PRSOM
i agreeee mashallah i love your respose
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I'm not Muslim, but being gay is part of your identity and is something you can't change. If a certain religion doesn't allow you to be yourself, then perhaps you should consider re-aligning your beliefs. You've got to own it and be proud of it. It's you and that's something you can't change.

Hope you feel better.
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Holy ****. There is so much deep rooted homophobia on this thread. OP I sincerely hope you ignore the homophobic b+llshit in this thread. Please live your best life. If you want to f+ck guys, absolutely go for it. You've only got one life, so live your best life. Stop fearing a god that doesn't exist.
^^^ Good advice, PRSOM
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That’s not Islamophobia. Islamophobia is when people show prejudice or hatred against Muslims. Suggesting that God doesn’t exist is anti-religion but not hateful and certainly not specifically anti-Muslim or anti-Islam. You are not being persecuted.
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I have recently been feeling emotional due to several reasons but they all lead back to my sexuality. I have recently seen the announcement of elite season 4 and saw some other clips of Omar and Andre and I related so much with Omar and I started to think about my future and if I will ever be happy or how I will tell my family even though they are not supportive and they have emotionally and physically abused me but also neglected me and my feelings. But being who I am I still want my family to love me ( which will never happen because they love control so much but that’s another story for another time). I have come out to my close friends as gay and they have been supportive a lot but unfortunately not to my family who are super homophobic. Luckily for me I am moving out on September to attend university of Manchester or Exeter to study law and plan to cut ties with my family when I am stable and get a corporate job which I will be when I am 22-23 year's old. What I wanted to ask you guys is so do you believe you can be Muslim and gay? And should I never come out in the future and stay as being the miserable person I am now?
Also I am currently 17 and in the London
You might find this organisation helpful

https://www.hidayahlgbt.com/

Stonewall is a useful resource and provides links to groups in the north west and south west that may be useful when you go to university. https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-u...uld-know-about

Best of luck. Try and ignore some of the more ignorant comments on here.
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You might find this organisation helpful

https://www.hidayahlgbt.com/

Stonewall is a useful resource and provides links to groups in the north west and south west that may be useful when you go to university. https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-u...uld-know-about

Best of luck. Try and ignore some of the more ignorant comments on here.
Thank you very much
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Regardless you shouldn't make an offensive claim knowing that most people still believe in a God, your opinion is your opinion. The OP wants help with their situation not a religion debate.
Well said they thank you for understanding
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If you want to debate Islam, head to the debate forum. This is not the place for it.
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Well said they thank you for understanding
No problem bro, May Allah make it easy for you and help soften the hearts of your family
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