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Is it alright to be white?

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Reply 40
Original post by 64Lightbulbs
not supporting BLM is pretty racist imo. "race traitor" is quite a loaded term and has weird connotations to it, but I would say candace owens is pretty racist.

do you understand why people say the phrase "being white is alright" is racist now?

In what universe does this make sense? Accusing people of being racist for not supporting a political ideology, sounds rather Stalinist if anything.
Reply 41
Original post by Sha-ney-ney
I don't see a problem with saying it's alright to be white or any other race but for some reason, it's always deemed to be racist towards others for some reason?

I can't see how it's racist under the equalities act.

Its down to two reasons
The first is that its generally conflated with the dimwitted sorts who run around with banners screaching white pride and such
The second, and probably more concerning given its seen as acceptable now, is that those educationally sub-par sorts who subscribe to nonsense like 'critical race theory' deem it an existential sin to be white for no other reason than it seems fashionable in their warped little worlds. We need only look at their hilariously myopic (or if we're being honest, brain dead) view of the world that only whites can be racist which, if nothing else, just shows that they havent a clue what goes on in the world outside of their cute little university buildings and trendy mocha frappacuino.
Alas the views of these twits are slowly being screached into the mainstream where people should for some reason feel bad for their heritage and, of all things, their melanin content.
I cant speak for others but im not about to condemn people from centuries ago based on todays morals and im certainly not going to apologise or, risibly, provide reparations to those undeserving of any.

Slight side rant aside, the only acceptable reason its frowned upon is that it tends to be used by racists, at least most vocally, any other reason given for it tends to be baseless claptrap propagated by supposedly educated students and professional protestors who tend to know not of which they speak.
Original post by Napp
Its down to two reasons
The first is that its generally conflated with the dimwitted sorts who run around with banners screaching white pride and such
The second, and probably more concerning given its seen as acceptable now, is that those educationally sub-par sorts who subscribe to nonsense like 'critical race theory' deem it an existential sin to be white for no other reason than it seems fashionable in their warped little worlds. We need only look at their hilariously myopic (or if we're being honest, brain dead) view of the world that only whites can be racist which, if nothing else, just shows that they havent a clue what goes on in the world outside of their cute little university buildings and trendy mocha frappacuino.
Alas the views of these twits are slowly being screached into the mainstream where people should for some reason feel bad for their heritage and, of all things, their melanin content.
I cant speak for others but im not about to condemn people from centuries ago based on todays morals and im certainly not going to apologise or, risibly, provide reparations to those undeserving of any.

Slight side rant aside, the only acceptable reason its frowned upon is that it tends to be used by racists, at least most vocally, any other reason given for it tends to be baseless claptrap propagated by supposedly educated students and professional protestors who tend to know not of which they speak.

PRSOM

I'm only doing my A-Level and I'm sad to say that my Father and Stepmother put me in a leftish school which they regret doing. They are both lecturers at a University and they are very disappointed in the way things are turning. The good thing is this is my final year bad thing is I'm probably going to university :zomg:.
Original post by Napp
I maintain you do a disservice to actual fascists by associating them with these punk football hooligans who have the political nouse of a grapefruit

Um the people I'm talking about are legit fascists of the Nick Griffin variety.
Reply 44
Original post by Sha-ney-ney
PRSOM

I'm only doing my A-Level and I'm sad to say that my Father and Stepmother put me in a leftish school which they regret doing. They are both lecturers at a University and they are very disappointed in the way things are turning. The good thing is this is my final year bad thing is I'm probably going to university :zomg:.

Alas, at university it'll probably get worse. Dissenting opinions are rarely tolerated anymore be it by teachers or students who 'deplatform' all and sundry.. or simply seek peoples expulsion :lol:
Its a rather sorry state of affairs where debate is censured. Its not even about people with odious opinions anymore, anyone who dares to have a vaguely right of centre opinion will fall foul of the screechy lot and be called a racist (or some other meaningless buzz word) if it were actually these people being racist or homophobes etc. it wouldnt be an issue but like the use of anti-emitism as a catch all slur thats where we are :lol:

Then again, its always fun arguing with the sjw types who i outlined above and watching their perverse outlook on the world be exposed for what it is, a foundationless Potemkin village of bigotry gussied up to look like inclusivity whilst being the polar opposite.
Reply 45
Original post by -Imperator-
Um the people I'm talking about are legit fascists of the Nick Griffin variety.


I stand by the comment, he's hardly of the calibre of the old school who, whilst odious of view, were actually vaguely educated on the politics of the matter as opposed to being fatuous bigots who just scream how evil foreigners are - like the people you just cited. Hardly well versed in the politics f fascism as opposed to moral indignation.
Original post by Napp
Alas, at university it'll probably get worse. Dissenting opinions are rarely tolerated anymore be it by teachers or students who 'deplatform' all and sundry.. or simply seek peoples expulsion :lol:
Its a rather sorry state of affairs where debate is censured. Its not even about people with odious opinions anymore, anyone who dares to have a vaguely right of centre opinion will fall foul of the screechy lot and be called a racist (or some other meaningless buzz word) if it were actually these people being racist or homophobes etc. it wouldnt be an issue but like the use of anti-emitism as a catch all slur thats where we are :lol:

Then again, its always fun arguing with the sjw types who i outlined above and watching their perverse outlook on the world be exposed for what it is, a foundationless Potemkin village of bigotry gussied up to look like inclusivity whilst being the polar opposite.

Political correctness is fascism disguised as manners - George Carlin
Original post by Sha-ney-ney
Political correctness is fascism disguised as manners - George Carlin

He had that spot on.
Original post by 64Lightbulbs
Would you show me an example of a law or policy in the UK that disadvantages white people for their race?

Can you show me a law that disadvantages anyone in the UK for their race?
Original post by Joleee
you haven't engaged with my original comment. so why quote me then


You were pointing out that white Nationalists have used a non disagreeable Statement as their motto and seemed to imply therefore that unless if you use it you're endorsing white Nationalism.

My point is however that the same is true of Black Lives Matter who were set up by extremist Marxists.

My point is I can agree with the statement's it's 'ok to be white' and that 'black lives matter' without endorsing white nationalism or Marxism
Original post by 64Lightbulbs
the whole point is that because they are in africa/immersed in african culture they have those differences, being prideful of "african culture", instead of their individual cultures would be strange.

due to the fact that black people in america have that disconnect from those african cultures, black pride is about celebrating being black, and overcoming the oppression that comes with that.
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Do you think 'Pan Africanists' common among radical black socialists are "strange" OK then...

Ok do why not celebrate being black Americans as opposed to just being being black, which incorporates those societies who are "disconnected" from them as you say. (Or to be blunt, the ones who sold them into slavery)


American pride is just patriotism.

Plus, americans didn't overcome a shared oppression by another group (unless you count the revolutionary war? tbh i don't)

Similarly, black people also face(d) oppression in the UK.

Also, black pride has never been a dogwhistle for racism.


Ok...do why not just be patriotic?

So you're saying it's only possible to feel pride about your group if you have been oppressed basically. Why? I think this just reinforces grievance culture. For instance if I and my descendants got given special incentives for being oppressed I guarantee my descendants would still be fighting tooth and nail for these centuries later and talking about how oppressed they are well into the future regard less of there being any truth to that.

Sure but not in all places etc where there still are vocal anti white BLM esque groups.

I disagree. Not to the same extent sure but there are numerous cases particularly in America and Especially South Africa where people in black pride groups go onto kill white people.

Whilst governments aren't yet openly oppressing white people they are at the point of open discrimination as well frequent demonisation in the media, academia and wider Society. As you know governments don't turn on people overnight but incubate a cultural aggression towards their chosen target first.

With people of all races and creeds critiquing BLM tarred as 'racists' and any support for institutions such as the police, free speech, rule of law being labelled as 'white privilege/ bastions of white Supremacy' I think we are heading in that direction.

Therefore I think peaceful, non hateful white solidarity is an appropriate response. We have a right to live in our homes by rules we set.

(Also check out Andy Ngos book on Antifa, you can probably pirate it pretty easily)
Original post by Napp
I stand by the comment, he's hardly of the calibre of the old school who, whilst odious of view, were actually vaguely educated on the politics of the matter as opposed to being fatuous bigots who just scream how evil foreigners are - like the people you just cited. Hardly well versed in the politics f fascism as opposed to moral indignation.

Who do you consider the "old school" to be? Richard Edmonds? Oswald Moseley?
Original post by -Imperator-
Who do you consider the "old school" to be? Richard Edmonds? Oswald Moseley?

I guess that's what he's referring to. There's obviously a big difference in calibre as well as ideological between people like Mosley and Tommy Robinson despite what Antifa etc tell people.

Additionally there's s difference between national socialists and neo Nazis today as well as the Bolsheviks and Antifa today.

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Original post by Starship Trooper
I guess that's what he's referring to. There's obviously a big difference in calibre as well as ideological between people like Mosley and Tommy Robinson despite what Antifa etc tell people.

Additionally there's s difference between national socialists and neo Nazis today as well as the Bolsheviks and Antifa today.

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Idk there's a big difference even between Edmonds and Moseley. Edmonds was just a frothing-at-the-mouth racist while Moseley was more sophisticated. I don't think Tommy is a fascist, he just has an irrational fear of Muslims. That said he used to be in the BNP. People like Antifa just use "fascist" to mean anyone far-right, or even anyone right-wing.
Original post by 64Lightbulbs
not supporting BLM is pretty racist imo.


Please elaborate.
Original post by -Imperator-
I don't think Tommy is a fascist, he just has an irrational fear of Muslims.


From my understanding, his gripe is not with Muslims per se, but rather the growing Islamisation of his hometown of Luton and its reputation as a jihadi breeding ground.

For context, according to the census data, in 2001, Luton had a Muslim population of approximately 27,000 (15%~ of the population). Ten years later, the Muslim population increased to approximately 50,000 (25%~ of the population). I presume the Muslim population will increase to approximately 35% in this year's census.

Given the trend over the past 20 years, Luton's notorious Islamism and its growing Muslim population, it would seem that more young Muslim Lutonians will be radicalised and commit acts of terrorism in the future.
Not thinking it's ok to be white is pretty racist imo
Original post by Stalin
Please elaborate.

not here. It would be off topic. There are plenty of other threads with similar topics you can read through, or you can start your own and @ me in it.
Original post by Strange5050
Can you show me a law that disadvantages anyone in the UK for their race?


Earlier in the thread i mentioned that I cannot as I live in the US and haven't done enough research on it to argue that position. That comment was specifically about a person who said I was minimizing the struggles white people face over their race.

Sorry if that's not the gotcha you thought it would be :frown:
Original post by 64Lightbulbs
Earlier in the thread i mentioned that I cannot as I live in the US and haven't done enough research on it to argue that position. That comment was specifically about a person who said I was minimizing the struggles white people face over their race.

Sorry if that's not the gotcha you thought it would be :frown:

Can you show me a law in the US that disadvantages anyone because of their race?

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