The Manchester United Thread XXIII
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by ZerforaxI think the Man Utd players already believe that Ten Hag won't be the Man Utd manager next season..
I think the key thing is no clear game planor style and some truly attocious transfers. Utd have spent nearly twice as much as City since Fergie left on a net basis which is astounding really.
Next manager is really tough to call. I wouldnt rule out someone like Conte
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by ZürichYea he should have been sacked many times this season. Moyes was for less.
I think the key thing is no clear game planor style and some truly attocious transfers. Utd have spent nearly twice as much as City since Fergie left on a net basis which is astounding really.
Next manager is really tough to call. I wouldnt rule out someone like Conte
I think the key thing is no clear game planor style and some truly attocious transfers. Utd have spent nearly twice as much as City since Fergie left on a net basis which is astounding really.
Next manager is really tough to call. I wouldnt rule out someone like Conte
The new owners might be a bit smarter so they may try and fix the structure around the club before hiring a new manager and giving him tons of money to spend (yet again).
There's no plan at Man Utd so they might just try and hire whatever the next flavour of the month is. Or they may keep ETH for another season, knowing that any decent manager will probably want the Barca, Bayern, Liverpool (possibly even Chelsea) jobs before the Man Utd job.
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by ZürichYea he should have been sacked many times this season. Moyes was for less.
I think the key thing is no clear game planor style and some truly attocious transfers. Utd have spent nearly twice as much as City since Fergie left on a net basis which is astounding really.
Next manager is really tough to call. I wouldnt rule out someone like Conte
I think the key thing is no clear game planor style and some truly attocious transfers. Utd have spent nearly twice as much as City since Fergie left on a net basis which is astounding really.
Next manager is really tough to call. I wouldnt rule out someone like Conte
We need a progressive manager, progressive manager comes in is forced to play counter attacking football because style of play is too boring or not getting results or plays possession football and gets sacked. Pragmatic manager comes in, gets results but football is not good so run of bad form kills team, progressive project manager is then brought in rinse and repeat.
I think Conté would do great at United, finally a club where he has money to spend instead of pinching pennies to win league titles, going nowhere in europe though.
It's actually quite funny 3 of Conté's last 4 clubs that he has managed has subsequently got to a CL final after he finished managing them.
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by Driving_MadWhy would Man United sack Ten Haag? Just going round in circles. To be fair to them they suffered a lot of injuries this year after a successful first year. He deserves another year to see how he does with the team.
Because he's a below average manager?
Because he's blown a huge amount of money over 2 summers and hasn't improved the side?
Because he keeps falling out with players?
Because after more than 1.5 seasons, he still hasn't implemented any kind of style of play?
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by ZerforaxBecause he's a below average manager?
Because he's blown a huge amount of money over 2 summers and hasn't improved the side?
Because he keeps falling out with players?
Because after more than 1.5 seasons, he still hasn't implemented any kind of style of play?
Because he's blown a huge amount of money over 2 summers and hasn't improved the side?
Because he keeps falling out with players?
Because after more than 1.5 seasons, he still hasn't implemented any kind of style of play?
Look at the injuries we had this season...
Licha (our best CB) out for basically whole season
Shaw (one of best LB in league when fit) out for whole season
AWB (best 1V1 defender in league) out for large parts
Malacia (our only other LB) - I don't know where he is
They are just the defenders
Hojlund (our only striker) - out at beginning and before internationals
We have played 20 different defensive partnerships this season
Amrabat had to play LB as 4th choice because - Shaw, Malacia, Lindelof and AWB injured
With all that, he is still fighting (somewhat) for top4 and FA Cup trophy
Don't criticise ETH again
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by hh1209Look at the injuries we had this season...
Licha (our best CB) out for basically whole season
Shaw (one of best LB in league when fit) out for whole season
AWB (best 1V1 defender in league) out for large parts
Malacia (our only other LB) - I don't know where he is
They are just the defenders
Hojlund (our only striker) - out at beginning and before internationals
We have played 20 different defensive partnerships this season
Amrabat had to play LB as 4th choice because - Shaw, Malacia, Lindelof and AWB injured
With all that, he is still fighting (somewhat) for top4 and FA Cup trophy
Don't criticise ETH again
Licha (our best CB) out for basically whole season
Shaw (one of best LB in league when fit) out for whole season
AWB (best 1V1 defender in league) out for large parts
Malacia (our only other LB) - I don't know where he is
They are just the defenders
Hojlund (our only striker) - out at beginning and before internationals
We have played 20 different defensive partnerships this season
Amrabat had to play LB as 4th choice because - Shaw, Malacia, Lindelof and AWB injured
With all that, he is still fighting (somewhat) for top4 and FA Cup trophy
Don't criticise ETH again
ETH has spent over £400mil in two summers. He should have fixed those problems instead of making excuses.
Liverpool have had lots of injuries in defence too but they've made it work (Trent, Robertson, Alisson all missing quite a lot of games and Matip out for the season).
Can you call it fighting for top 4 when you're 6th and 11 points off 4th place Aston Villa?
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by Zerforax@hh1209 thoughts on ETH after tonight's result? 
Varane injured again, AWB picked up a knock again -
but it is still shocking that we have dropped the lead after 95+ mins for the second game in a row - 90+9 mins vs Brentford and 90+10,11 vs Chelsea. He needs to work on protecting leads and not giving opponents a million chances per game.
Surprising stat - since the 10th of March, only Spurs have won a game away from home in the PL out of all teams
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by hh1209Varane injured again, AWB picked up a knock again -
but it is still shocking that we have dropped the lead after 95+ mins for the second game in a row - 90+9 mins vs Brentford and 90+10,11 vs Chelsea. He needs to work on protecting leads and not giving opponents a million chances per game.
Surprising stat - since the 10th of March, only Spurs have won a game away from home in the PL out of all teams
but it is still shocking that we have dropped the lead after 95+ mins for the second game in a row - 90+9 mins vs Brentford and 90+10,11 vs Chelsea. He needs to work on protecting leads and not giving opponents a million chances per game.
Surprising stat - since the 10th of March, only Spurs have won a game away from home in the PL out of all teams
You can make excuses about injuries but no professional team can justify throwing away leads like that at the end of games.
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@Mohammed_2000 @hh1209 you guy must be super proud of Man Utd's performance against Coventy yesterday 
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by Zerforax@Mohammed_2000 @hh1209 you guy must be super proud of Man Utd's performance against Coventy yesterday
First half we were brilliant but we switched off after the hour mark. Nevertheless no matter how we did it we advance and it’s football.
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by Zerforax@Mohammed_2000 @hh1209 you guy must be super proud of Man Utd's performance against Coventy yesterday
ngl ( I am not a deluded fan ) we switched off in 70 mins and deserved to lose - the first and second goals were lucky tho
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This is a load of *******s.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
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by sr123456789This is a load of *******s.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
**Meant to be a reply to Zerofax
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by Mohammed_2000First half we were brilliant but we switched off after the hour mark. Nevertheless no matter how we did it we advance and it’s football.
You gave up a 3-0 lead to a Championship side. Got lucky that VAR gave you a marginal offside which kept you in the tie and you still needed penalties to win the tie.
And you think you're going to beat Man City in the final..?
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by hh1209ngl ( I am not a deluded fan ) we switched off in 70 mins and deserved to lose - the first and second goals were lucky tho
Sign of Man Utd these days.. constantly deserve to lose but somehow luck some jammy goal from somewhere.
How else can you be 7th in the league with a negative goal difference.
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by sr123456789This is a load of *******s.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
He's not a below average manager as we saw from his time at Ajax and last year.
He's not blown the money, John Murtough blew the money by spending 80 mill on Antony and 60 mill on Casemiro when the Glazers were put under pressure towards the end of August last year. (That's why they were bought).
He fell out with Ronaldo who did a bloody interview with Piers Morgan and Jadon Sancho has been indisciplined at Man City and Dortmund as well. Ten Hag actually had the balls to do something about it.
How can he implement a style of play with 60+ injuries in a season? Come on get a grip and use your brain.
Yes there have been some questionable substitutions and the persistence with Rashford is weird and results have to be better but sacking the manager won't help.
Until the recent blow up at Ajax, they have always been a well run club that brings through lots of talented youngsters and sell for good money.
Did Ten Hag do a good job there? Yes.
Was it all because of him? Hell no. The structure was there, the academy, the management etc. That all allowed Ten Hag to do a good job. Now that he doesn't have that around him at Man Utd, you can see his flaws.
ETH obviously was desperate to sign Antony which is why Man Utd paid so much money! He coached him for 2 years at Ajax. No idea what the deal with Casemiro was but from the outside everyone else knew it was going to be a fading star bought for too much money, on too big a salary. It was only going to end badly.
Ronaldo was always going to be a bad purchase and a bad fit. But ETH wanted him too. Sancho didnt really have big problems at other clubs. But a quality manager would either not buy the problem player (when you consider the fee and wages!) or work out how not to fall out with such a valuable player. He's trying to show he is an authoritarian but he's just showing his weakness.
How can you NOT implement a style of play after spending some £400mil+ over the last two summers! Dont buy injury prone players or fix your training which must be causing injury issues.
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by ZerforaxSign of Man Utd these days.. constantly deserve to lose but somehow luck some jammy goal from somewhere.
How else can you be 7th in the league with a negative goal difference.
How else can you be 7th in the league with a negative goal difference.
Why would you start a man united thread on bloody student room of all places and you're not even be a fan???
Go outside and touch some grass lad. Feel the sun on your skin or something you know what I mean.
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by ZerforaxYou gave up a 3-0 lead to a Championship side. Got lucky that VAR gave you a marginal offside which kept you in the tie and you still needed penalties to win the tie.
And you think you're going to beat Man City in the final..?
And you think you're going to beat Man City in the final..?
I’m optimistic and hopeful and I’m proud of my club regardless. So what like bottling leads don’t happen in football it’s a unpredictable game.
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by sr123456789Why would you start a man united thread on bloody student room of all places and you're not even be a fan???
Go outside and touch some grass lad. Feel the sun on your skin or something you know what I mean.
Go outside and touch some grass lad. Feel the sun on your skin or something you know what I mean.
Some lousy Liverpool fan talking ignore him probably crying over how his team bottled a Quadruple and we are the ones that started their downfall.
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