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Reply 1860
Nice! Flats of three people, bedrooms arranged around a shared kitchen/lounge/dining room bit. I'm not sure, but I think they might all be en suite. Lucky you, it's a nice block to be put in!
University of Oxford, Pawel-Sytniewski
University of Oxford
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Athena
Nice! Flats of three people, bedrooms arranged around a shared kitchen/lounge/dining room bit. I'm not sure, but I think they might all be en suite. Lucky you, it's a nice block to be put in!

Sounds good, thank you! :smile:
Reply 1862
i never got to say thank you to everyone for answering my questions about bikes and food shopping at oxford. it was incredibly helpful. much, much appreciated!

i'm making my preparations to leave, as i'm sure you all are, and will be headed to belgium on tuesday for a stint before making my way to ox on the 29th. i was lucky to have a smooth visa experience (5 days in total from submitting the application to picking up my passport at the vfs centre -- very efficient in johannesburg). for those of you in the development studies mphil, good luck with the reading list! funny enough, it is cheaper to order the books through amazon UK and fly to england than it is to order them here in south africa, so they are waiting for me at a friend's apartment in london, which i will swing by on the way to catch the eurostar to brussels. c'est la vie.

good luck to everyone, and all the very best. see you at oxford!
good luck! see you at st cross in a few weeks - goodness where has the time gone?
Reply 1864
Folks, you can order books from Amazon to your college even before you arrive if you don't need them til you get there.
nomfundo
i never got to say thank you to everyone for answering my questions about bikes and food shopping at oxford. it was incredibly helpful. much, much appreciated!

i'm making my preparations to leave, as i'm sure you all are, and will be headed to belgium on tuesday for a stint before making my way to ox on the 29th. i was lucky to have a smooth visa experience (5 days in total from submitting the application to picking up my passport at the vfs centre -- very efficient in johannesburg). for those of you in the development studies mphil, good luck with the reading list! funny enough, it is cheaper to order the books through amazon UK and fly to england than it is to order them here in south africa, so they are waiting for me at a friend's apartment in london, which i will swing by on the way to catch the eurostar to brussels. c'est la vie.

good luck to everyone, and all the very best. see you at oxford!


Are you planning on reading everything on that list? I got a few books from the bod to read but haven't even looked at any yet...phew...so not looking forward to that :eek3:
Are you guys ordering books off of last year's list or has your college been actually helpful (cough - NOT politics cough) and sent you a list?

And is it really a big deal to buy all of them? Cause I saw an amount of books that would add money wise to buying a small car. :wink: kidding, but still - way to expensive to consider buying all of them. Surely the libraries have them... hoping, praying....
threedaystar
Are you guys ordering books off of last year's list or has your college been actually helpful (cough - NOT politics cough) and sent you a list?

And is it really a big deal to buy all of them? Cause I saw an amount of books that would add money wise to buying a small car. :wink: kidding, but still - way to expensive to consider buying all of them. Surely the libraries have them... hoping, praying....


I have sort of the same question. I know that for undergrads, definitely, they don't buy all the books on their lists, except for those they really want or think will be helpful later in their academics. They normally ask their college's librarians who are supposed to be really good at supplying any and all books required for their studies. My question is what if all the students in that college are looking for the same text - do the librarians get multiples of the same book then for all the students reading the same subject? (I suppose you could also borrow from your department's library)

Actually, my real question is whether this applies to graduate students as well - the whole asking our college library to supply the texts versus buying them all myself.
Reply 1868
chochu444
Are you planning on reading everything on that list? I got a few books from the bod to read but haven't even looked at any yet...phew...so not looking forward to that :eek3:



no, no. i'm reading only the number of books recommended ('read one or more books from the following list'). i just started the first one a few days ago. i'm not sure how critical the summer reading is, but i'll do what i can.
Reply 1869
WetMyWhistle
My question is what if all the students in that college are looking for the same text - do the librarians get multiples of the same book then for all the students reading the same subject? (I suppose you could also borrow from your department's library)

There won't usually be all that many graduates looking for the same texts simultaneously (unless you're at one of the graduate colleges which specialise in certain fields, I suppose). If there are, though, there are a number of options:
1. your college library has a sufficient number of copies (this is unlikely, though, as college libraries primarily try to cater for undergraduates)
2. your college library has two copies of essential texts, one of which is a reference copy
3. your faculty library has additional copies / reference copies
4. if all else fails, there's always the Bodleian. This is the great advantage of a non-borrowing university library: unless something is missing or on its way to/from the stacks, you can access it.
The library provision is really good, so if I were you, I wouldn't buy any textbooks unless I knew for a fact that I was going to use them on a near-daily basis and/or I would want to keep them afterwards.
Obviously most people prefer to take books home with them, but the good thing about using reference copies is that you need to work through them there and then, so they won't just lie on your desk for a week, as sometimes happens with faculty books.
Actually, my real question is whether this applies to graduate students as well - the whole asking our college library to supply the texts versus buying them all myself.

Of course graduates can ask college libraries to buy stuff. It can take a while to order and catalogue them, though (especially if the books aren't in print anymore), so if you need something urgently, it may be easier to use the faculty library or the Bod.
nomfundo
no, no. i'm reading only the number of books recommended ('read one or more books from the following list'). i just started the first one a few days ago. i'm not sure how critical the summer reading is, but i'll do what i can.


haha yeah, i meant will you be reading all the recommended ones? at oxford, the reading list is usually a few pages long and you pick and choose as many as you can in any given week. I have looked at a book but I am really dreading actually doing work this summer. sigh...
WetMyWhistle
I have sort of the same question. I know that for undergrads, definitely, they don't buy all the books on their lists, except for those they really want or think will be helpful later in their academics. They normally ask their college's librarians who are supposed to be really good at supplying any and all books required for their studies. My question is what if all the students in that college are looking for the same text - do the librarians get multiples of the same book then for all the students reading the same subject? (I suppose you could also borrow from your department's library)

Actually, my real question is whether this applies to graduate students as well - the whole asking our college library to supply the texts versus buying them all myself.


I spent a year at Oxford and I always found the book I was looking for; I needed at least ten books a week on average. I remember they didn't have one book, but it was a very obscure one. I asked SSL to get the book but never checked to see if they actually got it. In any case, almost always you will easily find the book you are looking for; as hobnob said, either as a borrowing copy or as a reference copy to be used only in a library. almost always they shelf multiple copies of the most popular books, and as long as you have a system of sorts with your friends doing the same course, you wont have to buy a book. england is expensive, so save the money for other things :smile:
Reply 1872
Does anyone know what the protocol is re: calling up colleges and finding out whether you've been accepted? It's beginning to look like I'll be camping out in a tent somewhere behind my department for the year :smile:
Itutu
Does anyone know what the protocol is re: calling up colleges and finding out whether you've been accepted? It's beginning to look like I'll be camping out in a tent somewhere behind my department for the year :smile:

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I think your best bet will be to call your department and ask them; I don't think you can call colleges directly...do you even know where your application is? In any case, I doubt you would get college housing at this late stage anyways, so you might want to start looking at private housing options.
Reply 1874
Yeah, I signed up for the private accommodations listserv. I know that my application has been forwarded to my first choice college (as of last Monday). It's a new program and certain colleges said that they would reserve places for applicants, but no word as to whether that includes housing
Thanks for all the advice on buying/borrowing books! When I saw the massive reading list and made a few calculations, I was about ready to cry. But thanks for putting my mind at ease. I'm fairly sure I'm the only one from my study at my college, so I'll try my college's library first.

Is anyone here planning on attending the International Graduate Student Orientation on 30 September? I fly in early that morning, but I wanted to try and make the afternoon meet-n-greet session. Will I be seeing any fellow TSRs there? :smile:
WetMyWhistle
Thanks for all the advice on buying/borrowing books! When I saw the massive reading list and made a few calculations, I was about ready to cry. But thanks for putting my mind at ease. I'm fairly sure I'm the only one from my study at my college, so I'll try my college's library first.

Is anyone here planning on attending the International Graduate Student Orientation on 30 September? I fly in early that morning, but I wanted to try and make the afternoon meet-n-greet session. Will I be seeing any fellow TSRs there? :smile:



haha, no worries. more than the money itself, i was worried about the reading if we had to go through the entire reading list each week. in any case, as regards college libraries, i found that while they usually had the most popular books i needed each week, the department library (ssl for me) had the more comprehensive coverage. as such, i relied on it as my primary source and only scouted the college library when all copies were taken from the department one. that said, if you are the only one in your college and you are able to convince your college to get all the books you need, you are gold! what program are you doing btw?

as regards orientation, i am only getting there on the first, so its a no go for me. i am hoping tsr people will update us on the ins and outs after the program there. tbh, i ve been very disappointed with the "services" for international students so i wonder what the orientation will be like.
Itutu
Yeah, I signed up for the private accommodations listserv. I know that my application has been forwarded to my first choice college (as of last Monday). It's a new program and certain colleges said that they would reserve places for applicants, but no word as to whether that includes housing


well, i hope you get housing as well then....finding a place can be frustrating, to say the least. what college did you list as your first choice? as i said, your best bet is to ask the department..they get the most updated info and they are the ones that forward your application to other colleges if your choices dont work out. good luck.
Reply 1878
i put down Wolfson as my first choice and St Peters as my second, but Lady Margaret Hall, Green Templeton are also holding spaces (according to the website)
Itutu
i put down Wolfson as my first choice and St Peters as my second, but Lady Margaret Hall, Green Templeton are also holding spaces (according to the website)


Oh cool. If you get into Wolfson, there's a good chance you will get accommodation as well, as they try to house all their first years on-campus. I don't know about St Peters but LMH does not have a lot of on-campus housing for its graduate students so it might be difficult to get a spot there. In any case, good luck with your college placement.

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