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Reply 1

ssadi
I forgot how to integrate cosec x dx. Any help please.:embarrassed:

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Reply 2

will its 1/sinx so use the chain rule,

Reply 3

charlie123
will its 1/sinx so use the chain rule,

I am trying to do that, and failing. Please say what I should differentiate here to be able to integrate 1/sinx

Reply 4

ach, morons in this forum is increasing exponentially.

use substitution

t=tanx2t=\tan{\frac{x}{2}} which gives sinx=2t1+t2\sin{x}=\frac{2t}{1+t^2}

Reply 5

ssadi
I forgot how to integrate cosec x dx. Any help please.:embarrassed:

Let y=cosxy = \cos x

This produces:
cosecxdx=11y2dy\int \mathrm{cosec}x dx = -\int \frac{1}{1-y^2} dy,

which can be solved by partial fractions, giving:
=12ln(1cosx1+cosx)+C= \frac{1}{2} \mathrm{ln}\left(\frac{1-\cos x}{1+\cos x}\right) + C.

This can be rearranged using sec2θtan2θ=1\mathrm{sec}^2\theta - \mathrm{tan}^2\theta = 1 to give the answer as lntan(x2)+C\mathrm{ln}|\mathrm{tan}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)| + C

Reply 6

Morbo
Let y=cosxy = \cos x

This produces:
cosecx=11y2dy\int \mathrm{cosec}x = -\int \frac{1}{1-y^2} dy,

which can be solved by partial fractions, giving:
=12ln(1cosx1+cosx)+C= \frac{1}{2} \mathrm{ln}\left(\frac{1-\cos x}{1+\cos x}\right) + C.

This can be rearranged using sec2θtan2θ=1\mathrm{sec}^2\theta - \mathrm{tan}^2\theta = 1 to give the answer as lntan(x2)+C\mathrm{ln}|\mathrm{tan}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)| + C

cosec x then equals 1(1y2) \frac{1}{\sqrt(1-y^2)}
how do i solve it by partial fractions then?

Reply 7

Totally Tom
ach, morons in this forum is increasing exponentially.

use substitution

t=tanx2t=\tan{\frac{x}{2}} which gives sinx=2t1+t2\sin{x}=\frac{2t}{1+t^2}

I have never used the method for any other sum, is it ok for fp1?

Reply 8

ssadi
I have never used the method for any other sum, is it ok for fp1?

Yes. t = tan(x/2) works quite well for a lot of trig integration.

Reply 9

generalebriety
Yes. t = tan(x/2) works quite well for a lot of trig integration.

Good to know.

Reply 10

generalebriety
Yes. t = tan(x/2) works quite well for a lot of trig integration.

What is your opinion of the other method that the alien shows us in the thread?

Reply 11

ssadi
What is your opinion of the other method that the alien shows us in the thread?


HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Sorry that is pretty funny.

Reply 12

Syafiquaaa
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Sorry that is pretty funny.

I forgot his name while quoting, and had to resort what I remembered, thanks to his signature.

Reply 13

ssadi
What is your opinion of the other method that the alien shows us in the thread?

*shrugs* It looks fine to me.

The integral of cosec x, if it's not in the formula book, is one you should expend the effort remembering anyway.

Reply 14

ssadi
cosec x then equals 1(1y2) \frac{1}{\sqrt(1-y^2)}
how do i solve it by partial fractions then?

Don't forget to change the variable of integration i.e. find dx in terms of dy. That gives you the integral I wrote.

Then partial fractions just makes 11y21(1+y)(1y)A1+y+B1y\frac{1}{1-y^2} \equiv \frac{1}{(1+y)(1-y)} \equiv \frac{A}{1+y} + \frac{B}{1-y}. Identify A=12A = \frac{1}{2} and B=12B = \frac{1}{2} and integrate as usual.

Reply 15

Morbo
Don't forget to change the variable of integration i.e. find dx in terms of dy. That gives you the integral I wrote.

Then partial fractions just makes 11y21(1+y)(1y)A1+y+B1y\frac{1}{1-y^2} \equiv \frac{1}{(1+y)(1-y)} \equiv \frac{A}{1+y} + \frac{B}{1-y}. Identify A=12A = \frac{1}{2} and B=12B = \frac{1}{2} and integrate as usual.

How do you remove the square root?

Reply 16

ssadi
How do you remove the square root?

cosecxdx=1sinxdx=11y2dy1y2=11y2dy\displaystyle \int \mathrm{cosec}x dx = \int \frac{1}{\mathrm{sin}x} dx = \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-y^2}} \frac{dy}{\sqrt{1-y^2}} = \int \frac{1}{1-y^2} dy.

Reply 17

Totally Tom
t=tanx2t=\tan{\frac{x}{2}} which gives sinx=2t1+t2\sin{x}=\frac{2t}{1+t^2}


:confused: How do you get that?!

Reply 18

Zygroth
:confused: How do you get that?!

2t1+t2=2tan(x2)1+tan2(x2)[br]=2tan(x2)sec2(x2)[br]=2sin(x2)cos(x2)[br]=sinx\displaystyle \\ \frac{2t}{1+t^2} = \frac{2 \tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)}{1+\tan^2\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)}[br]\\ = \frac{2 \tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)}{\mathrm{sec}^2\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)}[br]\\ = 2\sin \left(\frac{x}{2}\right) \cos \left(\frac{x}{2}\right)[br]\\ = \sin x

Reply 19

Morbo
cosecxdx=1sinxdx=11y2dy1y2=11y2dy\displaystyle \int \mathrm{cosec}x dx = \int \frac{1}{\mathrm{sin}x} dx = \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-y^2}} \frac{dy}{\sqrt{1-y^2}} = \int \frac{1}{1-y^2} dy.

I have never before converted dx into dy. I do not still get how you convert it, as I do not see any dy around that can be used to swap places:confused: