Surgical care practitioner - nursing career progression

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Bawo55
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Hello

Can someone please tell me what the career progression are for surgical care practitioner

Like what can you do if you want to step up after this role

I know from the nursing side you can advance to clinical nurse specialist, then a nurse practitioner eventually a junior sister
But for the SCP there isn’t much information on it.

Can you also transfer roles let’s say from being a theatre nurse - SCP then to practice nursing later in the future.

Would is make sense working from theatre - to clinic based environment.

I was also looking at community nurse - Practice nurse, public health nurse too.

I am a final year student nurse haha, it is a hard and tough decision to make with regards to working as a newly qualified nurse
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"I know from the nursing side you can advance to clinical nurse specialist, then a nurse practitioner eventually a junior sister"

Not quite how it works. Clinical nurse specialist and nurse practitioner (or advanced nurse practitioner) are clinical roles that you can progress into following experience and further study, their banding usually ranges from band 6 to 8a.

Junior sister (usually a band 6 role) is more of a managerial role that you can go into following working as a staff nurse, most people then follow this path into nursing management, though experience at a junior management level can be very useful in advanced clinical roles too.

SCP is a clinical specialist role within the theatre environment, so it is one you would apply for after having relevant perioperative experience (either as a nurse or an ODP). There are often paid as band 6 while training and band 7 on qualifying. There are lead SCP roles with more managerial responsibilities and a higher banding. I know of people who have moved from being an SCP into other advanced practice roles related to their surgical experience.

It can be challenging trying to work out where you want to end up career wise, as an NQ nurse I'd suggest you find an area of practice that suits you first and you enjoy working in, everything else will tend to fall into place then.

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"I know from the nursing side you can advance to clinical nurse specialist, then a nurse practitioner eventually a junior sister"

Not quite how it works. Clinical nurse specialist and nurse practitioner (or advanced nurse practitioner) are clinical roles that you can progress into the following experience and further study, their banding usually ranges from band 6 to 8a.

Junior sister (usually a band 6 role) is more of a managerial role that you can go into the following working as a staff nurse, most people then follow this path into nursing management, though experience at a junior management level can be very useful in advanced clinical roles too.

SCP is a clinical specialist role within the theatre environment, so it is one you would apply for after having relevant perioperative experience (either as a nurse or an ODP). There are often paid as band 6 while training and band 7 on qualifying. There are lead SCP roles with more managerial responsibilities and a higher banding. I know of people who have moved from being an SCP into other advanced practice roles related to their surgical experience.

It can be challenging trying to work out where you want to end up career-wise, as an NQ nurse I'd suggest you find an area of practice that suits you first and you enjoy working in, everything else will tend to fall into place then.
Ooh, that’s really nice, thank you.

Yes, I know the pathway for clinical nursing, I’m just trying to figure out the next step for theatre nursing.

I am really keen on working in theatre and then take further training to be a SCP given what they do and able to perform little surgeries which is what I want actually, doing both wards/clinics and following up patient care after discharge (surgical) I love that.

However, I don’t know what the next step would be after SCP (band 7) like what else can they move up to but then you mentioned managerial roles which I didn’t quite think about.

I guess the lead SCP would be more of a band 8?

If you don’t mind please, what other advanced practice roles did they move into? It would be nice to look into that too. Thank you.

Given that this is a new role in the NHS there isn’t much information out there about it so you have to ask people who are actually on the job or knows someone.
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Ooh, that’s really nice, thank you.

Yes, I know the pathway for clinical nursing, I’m just trying to figure out the next step for theatre nursing.

I am really keen on working in theatre and then take further training to be a SCP given what they do and able to perform little surgeries which is what I want actually, doing both wards/clinics and following up patient care after discharge (surgical) I love that.

However, I don’t know what the next step would be after SCP (band 7) like what else can they move up to but then you mentioned managerial roles which I didn’t quite think about.

I guess the lead SCP would be more of a band 8?

If you don’t mind please, what other advanced practice roles did they move into? It would be nice to look into that too. Thank you.

Given that this is a new role in the NHS there isn’t much information out there about it so you have to ask people who are actually on the job or knows someone.
I imagine a lead SCP would be getting an 8 yeah.

As for what they can move up to, it all depends on the applicant and what they want to do and whether they meet the criteria for the posts they are applying for. People I know of have moved into roles like advance nurse prac within specific surgical specialties, I know of one who is now an advanced critical care practitioner. Though, for many, getting to SCP is likely to be more of a career end point rather than a role they eventually move on from. It provides clinical progression for nurses and AHPs in the theatre environment rather than going into management.

It's not a brand new role, it's been about for around 20 years, though it's not one of the more well publicised roles in the NHS. It's well established in areas like cardiothoracic surgery for example.

You might find these links of interest

https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/careers-in-...-practitioner/

https://www.southtees.nhs.uk/service...practitioners/

https://cardiothoracicsurgery.biomed...019-020-1089-2
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I imagine a lead SCP would be getting an 8 yeah.

As for what they can move up to, it all depends on the applicant and what they want to do and whether they meet the criteria for the posts they are applying for. People I know of have moved into roles like advance nurse prac within specific surgical specialties, I know of one who is now an advanced critical care practitioner. Though, for many, getting to SCP is likely to be more of a career end point rather than a role they eventually move on from. It provides clinical progression for nurses and AHPs in the theatre environment rather than going into management.

It's not a brand new role, it's been about for around 20 years, though it's not one of the more well publicised roles in the NHS. It's well established in areas like cardiothoracic surgery for example.

You might find these links of interest

https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/careers-in-...-practitioner/

https://www.southtees.nhs.uk/service...practitioners/

https://cardiothoracicsurgery.biomed...019-020-1089-2
Thank you so much.
Yes, will read the links although some I am familiar with already.

Ah I see, I thought it is a new role.

Yea most of the jobs are for cardiothoracic surgery.

Nice nice! This helps a bit. Thank you xx.
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Thank you so much.
Yes, will read the links although some I am familiar with already.

Ah I see, I thought it is a new role.

Yea most of the jobs are for cardiothoracic surgery.

Nice nice! This helps a bit. Thank you xx.
Keep in mind there are some trainee SCP posts that are band 7 and progress onto band 8A after qualification and band 8B for Lead SCP's
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Keep in mind there are some trainee SCP posts that are band 7 and progress onto band 8A after qualification and band 8B for Lead SCP's
Ooh I thought they start off as trainee band 6 then band 7 once qualified
Thank you so much
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Ooh I thought they start off as trainee band 6 then band 7 once qualified
Thank you so much
But the vast majority start off at band 6 during training, I've only seen 2 that start on band 7
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