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I've been suffering from insomnia for the past couple of months and it's really really bothering me. All day. Every day. I feel anxious that I won't be able to fall asleep at night. It's really awful! (And it really started for no reason! I have no health problems and have no specific issues.. I think it started after a few nights of poor sleep due to my schedule and then the anxiety began)

I tried melatonin tablets which did absolutely nothing. I then tried Cyto-Night and Kalms which too provided no relief.

I then tried the doctor who prescribed me Phenergen (a antihistamine) which has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work. My insomnia persisted.

The doctor then prescribed Amitriptyline 10mg (which in much higher doses is used to treat depression) which also supposedly has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work either.

I am now looking to try something different. My insomnia is so disturbing and my anxious thoughts hold me back from doing so much!

I've heard that CBD oil helps with insomnia and anxiety. And being that I (very unfortunately) am suffering from insomnia- and now because of- Anxiety- and because of it- more insomnia... (cycle).

Does anyone here know if it works? Anyone have success (or unsuccess) stories with it? please let me know! Would really appreciate your response!

(and if anyone else had similar symptoms and found a cure please please please let me know!)
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Consult your physician first.
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So far my physicians 'solutions' have been unhelpful.

CBD oil is available online from reputable websites (e.g. Holland and Barret) without needing a prescription so it can't be too terrible for me if I try it out without asking my doctor first.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with it working?

Or any other insomnia solutions?
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Not sure as I've not tried it. But what is your sleeping situation like? So you have ample time to wind down before bed? What is your bed room like? No light on? Cool room temperature wise? Etc.

Read the book Overcoming Insomnia by Colin Espie, it will help you work through CBT for insomnia. In the mean time, work on getting your anxiety under control - do regular exercise, no caffeine 4 hours (minimum) before bed, meditation and mindfulness, journalling, etc.
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I really appreciate your response. Thank you!

My sleeping situation is exactly the same as it was last year, and the year before. And the exact same as my sister with whom I share a room. And she sleeps soundly and peacefully and I used to too.. And now... I literally feel like I've lost all control over my body when it's time to go to sleep.

I work best in the evening so no, I don't usually have 'ample time' to wind down. But I never did. I'm not the sort of person who really ever winds down.. I don't enjoy doing things that don't stimulate me. Since I began finding it hard to fall asleep though, I did try to 'wind down' by listening to podcasts or reading etc.. But that doesn't really ever seem to wind me down.. If it's boring then I turn it off/ close the book.. If I find it interesting then it kind of 'winds me up'..

Last week I signed up to Sleepio though being that I'm still in Week 1 I haven't really done much other than recorded my sleeping times etc.. I imagine that the book you mentioned is going to follow the same structure as the Sleepio programme (I can see that Colin Espie is Sleepio's founder too) so I think I'm going to buy it- thanks for telling me about it!

What gets me extra- nervous when researching about insomnia and solutions for it.. is that in all the reviews so many people talk about them having insomnia for years and years... and I just think to myself- Help! Perhaps I'm doomed for good? Like I thought I just couldn't fall asleep and it was going to get better and now I see that it can be a life-long cure-less condition. The thought just scares me.

I keep telling myself that I really I should be happy and thankful because so many people are suffering from things way way way worse than my insomnia, and would love to be in position where 'all that they need to worry about' is falling asleep. I try maintain that thought even though it is oh so hard!!
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I really appreciate your response. Thank you!

My sleeping situation is exactly the same as it was last year, and the year before. And the exact same as my sister with whom I share a room. And she sleeps soundly and peacefully and I used to too.. And now... I literally feel like I've lost all control over my body when it's time to go to sleep.

I work best in the evening so no, I don't usually have 'ample time' to wind down. But I never did. I'm not the sort of person who really ever winds down.. I don't enjoy doing things that don't stimulate me. Since I began finding it hard to fall asleep though, I did try to 'wind down' by listening to podcasts or reading etc.. But that doesn't really ever seem to wind me down.. If it's boring then I turn it off/ close the book.. If I find it interesting then it kind of 'winds me up'..

Last week I signed up to Sleepio though being that I'm still in Week 1 I haven't really done much other than recorded my sleeping times etc.. I imagine that the book you mentioned is going to follow the same structure as the Sleepio programme (I can see that Colin Espie is Sleepio's founder too) so I think I'm going to buy it- thanks for telling me about it!

What gets me extra- nervous when researching about insomnia and solutions for it.. is that in all the reviews so many people talk about them having insomnia for years and years... and I just think to myself- Help! Perhaps I'm doomed for good? Like I thought I just couldn't fall asleep and it was going to get better and now I see that it can be a life-long cure-less condition. The thought just scares me.

I keep telling myself that I really I should be happy and thankful because so many people are suffering from things way way way worse than my insomnia, and would love to be in position where 'all that they need to worry about' is falling asleep. I try maintain that thought even though it is oh so hard!!

You're welcome.

Persevere with the Sleepio Programme, it will be hard, not gonna lie, but overall you'll likely see improvement over the coming months. I had a 5 week course of CBT-i after speaking with my sleep specialist about it, and gradually I'm seeing improvements, although I still struggle, but it won't be perfect super quick! For context, I have severe onset and maintenance along with severe sleep anxiety.

Be kind to yourself. With sleep it needs no effort to be put into it from you, high sleep effort often means little to no sleep. What sleep needs is high sleep pressure. This is built up over the course of the dayand peaks around bed time - this is why you should try to aim for a consistent bed time window. This is also why you need to wind down before bed, it'll help you get into "sleepy mode" (this is different to "just" being tired, it's where you're unable to keep your eyes open). If you're able to, try and stop work an hour or so before bed, and do relaxing things (e.g. bath, skin care, journalling, meditation, sleepscapes, etc.). Things change in life, and unfortunately this isn't a great change, but when things change you have to as well. Try and accept this for what it is, and do what you can to help yourself.

Take care, and good luck.
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I struggle with insomnia too. I can get only 2-3 hours of sleep at night and I still won't be able to fall asleep the next day till 5-6 am, sometimes even longer. I tried CBD oil for anxiety/OCD and sleep issues too, but it didn't help me with anything other than maybe relaxing me a little bit (very little). And I tried various doses, including the highest ones, and used a good quality oil like provacan. I wouldn't recommend it, but everyone is different and it might work for you, so really the only thing you can do is buy a small bottle and try for yourself. If you do decide to try it, I wouldn't recommend holland & barrett cause this stuff has low concentration and a relatively high price. Provacan was the best I was able to find, but I also heard about Canavape. Look for full spectrum oils
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I've been suffering from insomnia for the past couple of months and it's really really bothering me. All day. Every day. I feel anxious that I won't be able to fall asleep at night. It's really awful! (And it really started for no reason! I have no health problems and have no specific issues.. I think it started after a few nights of poor sleep due to my schedule and then the anxiety began)

I tried melatonin tablets which did absolutely nothing. I then tried Cyto-Night and Kalms which too provided no relief.

I then tried the doctor who prescribed me Phenergen (a antihistamine) which has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work. My insomnia persisted.

The doctor then prescribed Amitriptyline 10mg (which in much higher doses is used to treat depression) which also supposedly has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work either.

I am now looking to try something different. My insomnia is so disturbing and my anxious thoughts hold me back from doing so much!

I've heard that CBD oil helps with insomnia and anxiety. And being that I (very unfortunately) am suffering from insomnia- and now because of- Anxiety- and because of it- more insomnia... (cycle).

Does anyone here know if it works? Anyone have success (or unsuccess) stories with it? please let me know! Would really appreciate your response!

(and if anyone else had similar symptoms and found a cure please please please let me know!)
My partner tried it for insomnia fairly recently. They got some relief in the short term, (could have been unrelated tbh), but after a week or two there was no real benefit.

It’s worth a try, but in my experience it’s not terribly effective.
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Try Valerian root in the form of tea (not herbal tablet supplements), it's over-the-counter. i found them pretty strong although they have other weird side effects but they definitely are my go to. They make me very drowsy, then i have quite deep sleeps and intense dreams, sometimes drowsy the next day. But you have to figure out the best dosage for you
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You're welcome.

Persevere with the Sleepio Programme, it will be hard, not gonna lie, but overall you'll likely see improvement over the coming months. I had a 5 week course of CBT-i after speaking with my sleep specialist about it, and gradually I'm seeing improvements, although I still struggle, but it won't be perfect super quick! For context, I have severe onset and maintenance along with severe sleep anxiety.

Be kind to yourself. With sleep it needs no effort to be put into it from you, high sleep effort often means little to no sleep. What sleep needs is high sleep pressure. This is built up over the course of the dayand peaks around bed time - this is why you should try to aim for a consistent bed time window. This is also why you need to wind down before bed, it'll help you get into "sleepy mode" (this is different to "just" being tired, it's where you're unable to keep your eyes open). If you're able to, try and stop work an hour or so before bed, and do relaxing things (e.g. bath, skin care, journalling, meditation, sleepscapes, etc.). Things change in life, and unfortunately this isn't a great change, but when things change you have to as well. Try and accept this for what it is, and do what you can to help yourself.

Take care, and good luck.
It must be so hard having 'severe onset and maintenance along with severe sleep anxiety', I honestly feel for you- it can't be easy. Thankfully usually once I get to sleep I maintain it (well that's until the alarm clock rings- which is often 1/2 hours later).

And yes, you're right there's no point in me dwelling on how unfortunate this 'change' is because that can't possibly positively impact me in any way.. I need to accept it and stop telling myself 'imagine if I slept like I did last year'..

I will definitely listen to your tips, and will try stick to the Sleepio programme as best as I can..

Thanks again for your time and help!
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I struggle with insomnia too. I can get only 2-3 hours of sleep at night and I still won't be able to fall asleep the next day till 5-6 am, sometimes even longer. I tried CBD oil for anxiety/OCD and sleep issues too, but it didn't help me with anything other than maybe relaxing me a little bit (very little). And I tried various doses, including the highest ones, and used a good quality oil like provacan. I wouldn't recommend it, but everyone is different and it might work for you, so really the only thing you can do is buy a small bottle and try for yourself. If you do decide to try it, I wouldn't recommend holland & barrett cause this stuff has low concentration and a relatively high price. Provacan was the best I was able to find, but I also heard about Canavape. Look for full spectrum oils
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My partner tried it for insomnia fairly recently. They got some relief in the short term, (could have been unrelated tbh), but after a week or two there was no real benefit.

It’s worth a try, but in my experience it’s not terribly effective.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Anonymous#2 I really feel for you.. Your insomnia can't be pleasant!

I guess it can't do any harm in trying and I think I'm going to order some- will see what I can find (thanks for your advice) Perhaps in my case it'll help!
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Try Valerian root in the form of tea (not herbal tablet supplements), it's over-the-counter. i found them pretty strong although they have other weird side effects but they definitely are my go to. They make me very drowsy, then i have quite deep sleeps and intense dreams, sometimes drowsy the next day. But you have to figure out the best dosage for you
I did try Kalms which is a tablet form of Valerian root, but I've never heard of the teas. I'm going to go and do my research on it, thank you for your advice!
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I did try Kalms which is a tablet form of Valerian root, but I've never heard of the teas. I'm going to go and do my research on it, thank you for your advice!
Yeah i tried kalms too but they did nothing for me, the tea is very different though!
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It must be so hard having 'severe onset and maintenance along with severe sleep anxiety', I honestly feel for you- it can't be easy. Thankfully usually once I get to sleep I maintain it (well that's until the alarm clock rings- which is often 1/2 hours later).

And yes, you're right there's no point in me dwelling on how unfortunate this 'change' is because that can't possibly positively impact me in any way.. I need to accept it and stop telling myself 'imagine if I slept like I did last year'..

I will definitely listen to your tips, and will try stick to the Sleepio programme as best as I can..

Thanks again for your time and help!
You're welcome!

Remember if this programme doesn't help you can always go back to your GP and ask for different/more CBT, perhaps even tackling the anxiety could help with the managing the insomnia.

The different insomnia subtypes (onset, maintenance, and terminal) all require slightly different things to manage them, so try not to give up hope. You will figure it out one day. Onset has a lot of avenues to go down in terms of different management strategies. In fact, personally speaking my bigger issue out of the two currently is the maintenance part of my insomnia, not the onset so much. CBT really helps for the onset side of things imo.

I do struggle yes, but it is what it is. My issues with sleep are complicated so I've just grown to accept it. Got too many other things health wise so I try to be kind to myself and do what I can regarding sleep. Being angry or upset about it doesn't really do anything helpful. :dontknow:
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I've been suffering from insomnia for the past couple of months and it's really really bothering me. All day. Every day. I feel anxious that I won't be able to fall asleep at night. It's really awful! (And it really started for no reason! I have no health problems and have no specific issues.. I think it started after a few nights of poor sleep due to my schedule and then the anxiety began)

I tried melatonin tablets which did absolutely nothing. I then tried Cyto-Night and Kalms which too provided no relief.

I then tried the doctor who prescribed me Phenergen (a antihistamine) which has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work. My insomnia persisted.

The doctor then prescribed Amitriptyline 10mg (which in much higher doses is used to treat depression) which also supposedly has a side effect of feeling sleepy. But it didn't work either.

I am now looking to try something different. My insomnia is so disturbing and my anxious thoughts hold me back from doing so much!

I've heard that CBD oil helps with insomnia and anxiety. And being that I (very unfortunately) am suffering from insomnia- and now because of- Anxiety- and because of it- more insomnia... (cycle).

Does anyone here know if it works? Anyone have success (or unsuccess) stories with it? please let me know! Would really appreciate your response!

(and if anyone else had similar symptoms and found a cure please please please let me know!)
Herbceuticals is great.

it’s fully organic full spectrum broad cbd oil

nothing else worked for me but theirs definitely did
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Yeah i tried kalms too but they did nothing for me, the tea is very different though!
Hi, please can you tell me the name/brand of the tea that you use (that works for you)?

Thank you so much!
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You're welcome!

Remember if this programme doesn't help you can always go back to your GP and ask for different/more CBT, perhaps even tackling the anxiety could help with the managing the insomnia.

The different insomnia subtypes (onset, maintenance, and terminal) all require slightly different things to manage them, so try not to give up hope. You will figure it out one day. Onset has a lot of avenues to go down in terms of different management strategies. In fact, personally speaking my bigger issue out of the two currently is the maintenance part of my insomnia, not the onset so much. CBT really helps for the onset side of things imo.

I do struggle yes, but it is what it is. My issues with sleep are complicated so I've just grown to accept it. Got too many other things health wise so I try to be kind to myself and do what I can regarding sleep. Being angry or upset about it doesn't really do anything helpful. :dontknow:
The book just arrived I will get on with reading it!

I like your approach of just accepting the 'changes' it has definitely helped me changed my perspective..
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Herbceuticals is great.

it’s fully organic full spectrum broad cbd oil

nothing else worked for me but theirs definitely did
Where can I purchase it from?

Thanks!
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Where can I purchase it from?

Thanks!
I don’t know if I can send a link on here but PM me mate will help you out.
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The book just arrived I will get on with reading it!

I like your approach of just accepting the 'changes' it has definitely helped me changed my perspective..
Last night was the second night week that I got under 2 hours of sleep
I was in bed for 1:30am and was still up at 7! (My family were already waking up)

Thankfully caught a one hours sleep then, just before my alarm rang at 8:15 and I forced myself out of bed..

Been feeling awful all day. Absolute torture 😥🥱🙄😑

Wish i'd be able to stay positive about this but its too hard..
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