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I have done the part (a) A(n) for even number but the odd number and all below I have no idea.

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I have done the part (a) A(n) for even number but the odd number and all below I have no idea.

**deskochan**)I have done the part (a) A(n) for even number but the odd number and all below I have no idea.

2*2, 3*3, 4*4, 5*5, ...

to get the intuition? They've done that for you with an example when n is even.

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Can you not just sketch a few cases like

2*2, 3*3, 4*4, 5*5, ...

to get the intuition? They've done that for you with an example when n is even.

**mqb2766**)Can you not just sketch a few cases like

2*2, 3*3, 4*4, 5*5, ...

to get the intuition? They've done that for you with an example when n is even.

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I get the linear programming constraint from the figure and part b. x>y, x+y>n, x<n and I think n = odd number, A(n) is in even number pattern, 2,4,6,...(n-?).

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I just count the number of points and get the pattern of even the number of n of the triangle in the figure. 1,3,5, ... (n-5), (n-3). but the odd number I don't get it. Could you tell me more you mention 2*2... intuition? Because I just self-study pure mathematics.

**deskochan**)I just count the number of points and get the pattern of even the number of n of the triangle in the figure. 1,3,5, ... (n-5), (n-3). but the odd number I don't get it. Could you tell me more you mention 2*2... intuition? Because I just self-study pure mathematics.

When n was even, you summed the odd numbers which is a square number?

I just meant drawing the different grids. So

n=1 is 2*2 which has 0 in the interior

n=2 is 3*3 which has 2 in the interior - the first rectangular number

n=3 is 4*4 which has 1+3 = 4 = 2^2 - summing odd numbers, or successive triangular numbers

n=4 is 5*5 which has 2+4 ....

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When n is odd, you should just sum the even numbers so 2+4+6+ ... The so-called rectangular numbers. It should be self evident from a sketch - upload what you've tried?

When n was even, you summed the odd numbers which is a square number?

I just meant drawing the different grids. So

n=1 is 2*2 which has 0 in the interior

n=2 is 3*3 which has 2 in the interior - the first rectangular number

n=3 is 4*4 which has 1+3 = 4 = 2^2 - summing odd numbers, or successive triangular numbers

n=4 is 5*5 which has 2+4 ....

**mqb2766**)When n is odd, you should just sum the even numbers so 2+4+6+ ... The so-called rectangular numbers. It should be self evident from a sketch - upload what you've tried?

When n was even, you summed the odd numbers which is a square number?

I just meant drawing the different grids. So

n=1 is 2*2 which has 0 in the interior

n=2 is 3*3 which has 2 in the interior - the first rectangular number

n=3 is 4*4 which has 1+3 = 4 = 2^2 - summing odd numbers, or successive triangular numbers

n=4 is 5*5 which has 2+4 ....

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At least I know, For n=even, A(n) is an odd number pattern, 1,3,5,7,... (n-5), (n-3); for n=odd, A(n) is an even number pattern 2,4,6,8,.. (n-5), (n-3). This is part (a) I get.

**deskochan**)At least I know, For n=even, A(n) is an odd number pattern, 1,3,5,7,... (n-5), (n-3); for n=odd, A(n) is an even number pattern 2,4,6,8,.. (n-5), (n-3). This is part (a) I get.

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When n is odd, you should just sum the even numbers so 2+4+6+ ... The so-called rectangular numbers. It should be self evident from a sketch - upload what you've tried?

When n was even, you summed the odd numbers which is a square number?

I just meant drawing the different grids. So

n=1 is 2*2 which has 0 in the interior

n=2 is 3*3 which has 2 in the interior - the first rectangular number

n=3 is 4*4 which has 1+3 = 4 = 2^2 - summing odd numbers, or successive triangular numbers

n=4 is 5*5 which has 2+4 ....

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I take it you know the sum of those series? They're linear, so the sum is quadratics. n odd is a square number and n even is a rectangular number?

**mqb2766**)I take it you know the sum of those series? They're linear, so the sum is quadratics. n odd is a square number and n even is a rectangular number?

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Hong Kong Advanced Level Pure Mathematics past examination paper.

**Äries**)Hong Kong Advanced Level Pure Mathematics past examination paper.

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You are a genius and I just follow the pattern. For odd, A4, A6, A8 ,..= 1^2, 2^2, 3^2,....; For even, A5, A7, A9 = 2, 6, 12....

**deskochan**)You are a genius and I just follow the pattern. For odd, A4, A6, A8 ,..= 1^2, 2^2, 3^2,....; For even, A5, A7, A9 = 2, 6, 12....

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Tbh, the basic triangular numbers, rectangular numbers, square numbers patterns are fairly well known and easy to derive. This part of the question is just a slightly different way to ask the same thing.

**mqb2766**)Tbh, the basic triangular numbers, rectangular numbers, square numbers patterns are fairly well known and easy to derive. This part of the question is just a slightly different way to ask the same thing.

By the way, A4+A6+A8.. = from summation of (n-1)^2 (from n=2 to ?) , A5+A7+A9.. = summation of n(n-1) (from n=2 to?).

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Examination always does the same thing in various ways. I am a layman to follow the road of this world.

By the way, A4+A6+A8.. = from summation of (n-1)^2 (from n=2 to ?) , A5+A7+A9.. = summation of n(n-1) (from n=2 to?).

**deskochan**)Examination always does the same thing in various ways. I am a layman to follow the road of this world.

By the way, A4+A6+A8.. = from summation of (n-1)^2 (from n=2 to ?) , A5+A7+A9.. = summation of n(n-1) (from n=2 to?).

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Not sure what you mean.

**mqb2766**)Not sure what you mean.

I go to part b(ii) find B(2k). I think B(2k) is added the above two series together. Is this logic correct?

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I mean For n=odd A4+ A6,+A8 +....= 1^2,+2^2,+3^2,....; For n=even, A5 + A7 + A9 = 2 + 6 +12...

I go to part b(ii) find B(2k). I think B(2k) is added the above two series together. Is this logic correct?

**deskochan**)I mean For n=odd A4+ A6,+A8 +....= 1^2,+2^2,+3^2,....; For n=even, A5 + A7 + A9 = 2 + 6 +12...

I go to part b(ii) find B(2k). I think B(2k) is added the above two series together. Is this logic correct?

Which part of the question are you doing now.

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I agree that An is a sequence of square numbers and rectangular numbers.

Which part of the question are you doing now.

**mqb2766**)I agree that An is a sequence of square numbers and rectangular numbers.

Which part of the question are you doing now.

In part (a), I get n=even A(n) = [(n-2)/2]^2, n=odd, A(n) = (n-1)/2 * (n-3)/2

For part b(i), I think the non-degenerate triangle is x+y>t (from the diagram, x=n is the longest side of the triangle), and it is given y<x<t = n and there are the three inequalities, x>y, x+y>t and x<t and thus the number of triangles is equal to the number of integral points A(n) in part (a).

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Part b. Thank you for your help and I have finished part (a)

In part (a), I get n=even A(n) = [(n-2)/2]^2, n=odd, A(n) = (n-1)/2 * (n-3)/2

For part b(i), I think the non-degenerate triangle is x+y>t (from the diagram, x=n is the longest side of the triangle), and it is given y<x<t = n and there are the three inequalities, x>y, x+y>t and x<t and thus the number of triangles is equal to the number of integral points A(n) in part (a).

**deskochan**)Part b. Thank you for your help and I have finished part (a)

In part (a), I get n=even A(n) = [(n-2)/2]^2, n=odd, A(n) = (n-1)/2 * (n-3)/2

For part b(i), I think the non-degenerate triangle is x+y>t (from the diagram, x=n is the longest side of the triangle), and it is given y<x<t = n and there are the three inequalities, x>y, x+y>t and x<t and thus the number of triangles is equal to the number of integral points A(n) in part (a).

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I go to part b (ii), I think B(2k) = A4+A5+....... and I need to add two series: even (square pattern number) and odd (rectangle pattern number).

Thus, I try to add B(2k) = summation A(i) (from i=4 to 2k).

Thus, I try to add B(2k) = summation A(i) (from i=4 to 2k).

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I go to part b (ii), I think B(2k) = A4+A5+....... and I need to add two series: even (square pattern number) and odd (rectangle pattern number).

Thus, I try to add B(2k) = summation A(i) (from i=4 to 2k).

**deskochan**)I go to part b (ii), I think B(2k) = A4+A5+....... and I need to add two series: even (square pattern number) and odd (rectangle pattern number).

Thus, I try to add B(2k) = summation A(i) (from i=4 to 2k).

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Just make sure you're doing the first few numbers correctly. The sum of square number and rectangular numbers are not too hard. Obviously, they must form a cubic, as the diesired expression suggests.

**mqb2766**)Just make sure you're doing the first few numbers correctly. The sum of square number and rectangular numbers are not too hard. Obviously, they must form a cubic, as the diesired expression suggests.

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