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if someone who knows enough or is at either of these unis could answer this? (only related to a medicine course):
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
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if someone who knows enough or is at either of these unis could answer this? (only related to a medicine course):
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
if someone who knows enough or is at either of these unis could answer this? (only related to a medicine course):
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
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A_J_B is a medical student at Bham and Mesopotamian. is a dental student at QMUL, so they can advise 
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
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A_J_B is a medical student at Bham and Mesopotamian. is a dental student at QMUL, so they can advise
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
A_J_B is a medical student at Bham and Mesopotamian. is a dental student at QMUL, so they can advise
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
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(Original post by GANFYD)As well as personal learning styles, preferences, etc
(Original post by GANFYD)As well as personal learning styles, preferences, etc
Plus all this stuff is random - my personal tutor is useless, someone else's supported them amazingly well through awful personal circs. So depending on who you ask, you get very different opinions!
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Exactly
Plus all this stuff is random - my personal tutor is useless, someone else's supported them amazingly well through awful personal circs. So depending on who you ask, you get very different opinions!
Exactly
Plus all this stuff is random - my personal tutor is useless, someone else's supported them amazingly well through awful personal circs. So depending on who you ask, you get very different opinions!
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if someone who knows enough or is at either of these unis could answer this? (only related to a medicine course):
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
if someone who knows enough or is at either of these unis could answer this? (only related to a medicine course):
- which is better for tutor support and how?
- which has stronger anatomy teaching?
- in general which seems to trump the other in different aspects?
- every med student gets their own Personal academic tutor, but their helpfulness can vary a lot. Some people's PATs are not the best while others have incredible PATs.
- Bham is known to be not the best with anatomy teaching-but this isn't a big factor for me as anatomy is mostly rote learning which you can do yourself if you put in enough effort.
-I haven't been to both so can't answer your last question unfortunately. It's upto you to decide where to go
IN general, Birmingham has a very integrated course, with 10% of a PBL element. The first 2 years are lecture heavy, and learning is supported with small group teaching and prosection. It's also a very big med school, with about 390 students graduating per year. While some would not be so keen on that, you get to meet so many people (not happening right now obviously) and also during placement you can easily arrange car pooling as there will be quite a few people allocated to a particular hospital placement.
There are fortnightly GP placements in pre-clinical years as well
Most of our placements are within 10 miles from the med school-not to mention the Queen Elizabeth Hospital which is a major military and tertiary care hospital-one of the largest in the UK. The clinical material and exposure you would get in such a big city would be quite invaluable as well. Birmingham is the most ethnically diverse city in the UK outside London.
I don't think prosection/vs dissection makes much of a difference- in many ways prosection is more focussed and saves time without compromising on learning (you also get to see several models which gives you an idea of the different anatomical variations).
Birmingham also has great links to London, and the HS2 is coming up in the next few years so there is potential for more investment in the area.
Thanks for the tag BTN
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What do you mean by “which trumps the other in different aspects”? What are the ‘different aspects’ you’re referring to?
I’ll try my best here 
(Original post by becausethenight)
A_J_B is a medical student at Bham and Mesopotamian. is a dental student at QMUL, so they can advise
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
A_J_B is a medical student at Bham and Mesopotamian. is a dental student at QMUL, so they can advise
Just to bear in mind though, these will be personal decisions and no student has attended both, so won't be able to compare! Some of your points are quite vague as well - "stronger anatomy teaching" could depend heavily on which tutor a student has, for example.
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And what some people find supportive, others would find unhelpful
And what some people find supportive, others would find unhelpful
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(Original post by A_J_B)
I'm a med student here at Bham so you could pick my brains
- every med student gets their own Personal academic tutor, but their helpfulness can vary a lot. Some people's PATs are not the best while others have incredible PATs.
- Bham is known to be not the best with anatomy teaching-but this isn't a big factor for me as anatomy is mostly rote learning which you can do yourself if you put in enough effort.
-I haven't been to both so can't answer your last question unfortunately. It's upto you to decide where to go
IN general, Birmingham has a very integrated course, with 10% of a PBL element. The first 2 years are lecture heavy, and learning is supported with small group teaching and prosection. It's also a very big med school, with about 390 students graduating per year. While some would not be so keen on that, you get to meet so many people (not happening right now obviously) and also during placement you can easily arrange car pooling as there will be quite a few people allocated to a particular hospital placement.
There are fortnightly GP placements in pre-clinical years as well
Most of our placements are within 10 miles from the med school-not to mention the Queen Elizabeth Hospital which is a major military and tertiary care hospital-one of the largest in the UK. The clinical material and exposure you would get in such a big city would be quite invaluable as well. Birmingham is the most ethnically diverse city in the UK outside London.
I don't think prosection/vs dissection makes much of a difference- in many ways prosection is more focussed and saves time without compromising on learning (you also get to see several models which gives you an idea of the different anatomical variations).
Birmingham also has great links to London, and the HS2 is coming up in the next few years so there is potential for more investment in the area.
Thanks for the tag BTN
I'm a med student here at Bham so you could pick my brains
- every med student gets their own Personal academic tutor, but their helpfulness can vary a lot. Some people's PATs are not the best while others have incredible PATs.
- Bham is known to be not the best with anatomy teaching-but this isn't a big factor for me as anatomy is mostly rote learning which you can do yourself if you put in enough effort.
-I haven't been to both so can't answer your last question unfortunately. It's upto you to decide where to go
IN general, Birmingham has a very integrated course, with 10% of a PBL element. The first 2 years are lecture heavy, and learning is supported with small group teaching and prosection. It's also a very big med school, with about 390 students graduating per year. While some would not be so keen on that, you get to meet so many people (not happening right now obviously) and also during placement you can easily arrange car pooling as there will be quite a few people allocated to a particular hospital placement.
There are fortnightly GP placements in pre-clinical years as well
Most of our placements are within 10 miles from the med school-not to mention the Queen Elizabeth Hospital which is a major military and tertiary care hospital-one of the largest in the UK. The clinical material and exposure you would get in such a big city would be quite invaluable as well. Birmingham is the most ethnically diverse city in the UK outside London.
I don't think prosection/vs dissection makes much of a difference- in many ways prosection is more focussed and saves time without compromising on learning (you also get to see several models which gives you an idea of the different anatomical variations).
Birmingham also has great links to London, and the HS2 is coming up in the next few years so there is potential for more investment in the area.
Thanks for the tag BTN
Hope you are doing well too!
(Original post by Mesopotamian.)
What do you mean by “which trumps the other in different aspects”? What are the ‘different aspects’ you’re referring to?
I’ll try my best here
What do you mean by “which trumps the other in different aspects”? What are the ‘different aspects’ you’re referring to?
I’ll try my best here
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I'm a med student here at Bham so you could pick my brains
- every med student gets their own Personal academic tutor, but their helpfulness can vary a lot. Some people's PATs are not the best while others have incredible PATs.
- Bham is known to be not the best with anatomy teaching-but this isn't a big factor for me as anatomy is mostly rote learning which you can do yourself if you put in enough effort.
-I haven't been to both so can't answer your last question unfortunately. It's upto you to decide where to go
IN general, Birmingham has a very integrated course, with 10% of a PBL element. The first 2 years are lecture heavy, and learning is supported with small group teaching and prosection. It's also a very big med school, with about 390 students graduating per year. While some would not be so keen on that, you get to meet so many people (not happening right now obviously) and also during placement you can easily arrange car pooling as there will be quite a few people allocated to a particular hospital placement.
There are fortnightly GP placements in pre-clinical years as well
Most of our placements are within 10 miles from the med school-not to mention the Queen Elizabeth Hospital which is a major military and tertiary care hospital-one of the largest in the UK. The clinical material and exposure you would get in such a big city would be quite invaluable as well. Birmingham is the most ethnically diverse city in the UK outside London.
I don't think prosection/vs dissection makes much of a difference- in many ways prosection is more focussed and saves time without compromising on learning (you also get to see several models which gives you an idea of the different anatomical variations).
Birmingham also has great links to London, and the HS2 is coming up in the next few years so there is potential for more investment in the area.
Thanks for the tag BTN
I'm a med student here at Bham so you could pick my brains
- every med student gets their own Personal academic tutor, but their helpfulness can vary a lot. Some people's PATs are not the best while others have incredible PATs.
- Bham is known to be not the best with anatomy teaching-but this isn't a big factor for me as anatomy is mostly rote learning which you can do yourself if you put in enough effort.
-I haven't been to both so can't answer your last question unfortunately. It's upto you to decide where to go
IN general, Birmingham has a very integrated course, with 10% of a PBL element. The first 2 years are lecture heavy, and learning is supported with small group teaching and prosection. It's also a very big med school, with about 390 students graduating per year. While some would not be so keen on that, you get to meet so many people (not happening right now obviously) and also during placement you can easily arrange car pooling as there will be quite a few people allocated to a particular hospital placement.
There are fortnightly GP placements in pre-clinical years as well
Most of our placements are within 10 miles from the med school-not to mention the Queen Elizabeth Hospital which is a major military and tertiary care hospital-one of the largest in the UK. The clinical material and exposure you would get in such a big city would be quite invaluable as well. Birmingham is the most ethnically diverse city in the UK outside London.
I don't think prosection/vs dissection makes much of a difference- in many ways prosection is more focussed and saves time without compromising on learning (you also get to see several models which gives you an idea of the different anatomical variations).
Birmingham also has great links to London, and the HS2 is coming up in the next few years so there is potential for more investment in the area.
Thanks for the tag BTN
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Thank you! - this was sort of the summary I needed. With the PATs if you have one that just doesn't suit you or isn't the best are you allowed to request a change? does your PATs change yearly?
Thank you! - this was sort of the summary I needed. With the PATs if you have one that just doesn't suit you or isn't the best are you allowed to request a change? does your PATs change yearly?
Your PAT remains the same throughout your time at med school-you will be assigned a PAT group which has senior medics (like a medic family).
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What do you mean by “which trumps the other in different aspects”? What are the ‘different aspects’ you’re referring to?
I’ll try my best here
What do you mean by “which trumps the other in different aspects”? What are the ‘different aspects’ you’re referring to?
I’ll try my best here
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