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why are oxbridge terms so short & without a break?

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Reply 40
parkerpen
No they expect badly written, poorly researched essays. Half my essays were unreadable the other half made sexually suggestive comments about the supervisors partner :rolleyes:
The essays are expected to be well researched. My essays often cited 10-15 works. I didn't read 15 books an essay obviously, sometimes it was just chapters or articles but the amount of reading for humanities and social sciences is pretty immense. You are also expected to construct an argument that is well-written, logical and also innovative/original.


well I meant that for a-level, we generally did 4hrs worth of reasearch/ planning and a further maximum 2hrs on writing- this is for english literature. but the idea was, you do what you can (as an A-grade student) in 5-6hrs

do you think they will understand people doing their best and still producing less-than-impressive essays at the start? I'm really worried this will happen- especially as it will be my first time in 15 months writing an essay
Reply 41
yellowwdaisy
well I meant that for a-level, we generally did 4hrs worth of reasearch/ planning and a further maximum 2hrs on writing- this is for english literature. but the idea was, you do what you can (as an A-grade student) in 5-6hrs

Well, since you have slightly less than a week to research, plan and write the essay, you'll probably be expected to do a bit more than that.
do you think they will understand people doing their best and still producing less-than-impressive essays at the start? I'm really worried this will happen- especially as it will be my first time in 15 months writing an essay

Towards the beginning, yes of course. Later on, your tutors might get a bit nasty, though, if they think you're not working hard enough and/or producing work of a low standard and ask you to rewrite essays which weren't quite up to scratch (although depending on how thick-skinned you are, you may not actually mind all that much).
The West Wing
To induce suicidal tendancies in their students. :frown:

It's not that bad... and before you ask, I'm not going on Skype tonight; I had badminton training this morning and slept for a few hours this afternoon so have tonnes of politics reading to catch up on.

LH123
Oxbridge people get like, one essay a week though, as far as I know.

It depends on the subject, in Economics, every two weeks we get a politics essay, a history essay, some maths and stats questions, some microeconomics problems, and some macroeconomics problems and essay questions. Only one essay a week would be very nice. :yep:
Reply 43
alex_hk90
It's not that bad... and before you ask, I'm not going on Skype tonight; I had badminton training this morning and slept for a few hours this afternoon so have tonnes of politics reading to catch up on.


It depends on the subject, in Economics, every two weeks we get a politics essay, a history essay, some maths and stats questions, some microeconomics problems, and some macroeconomics problems and essay questions. Only one essay a week would be very nice. :yep:


ooh out of curiosity wwhere was it held / it is college organised? I don't know anhything about the sports stuff :frown:
Oxbridge is a good place to be both a student and an academic because of the short terms. The academics get a chance to really concentrate on their research as well as teaching. This impacts directly on the undergraduates too, it means that the people teaching you are active researchers, in touch with the latest research in their field and constantly updating the teaching material.

Also, the fact that both universities take such care with the whole application process means that the interview period takes a lot of time and could not run alongside an undergraduate term.

And finally, conferences are an important source of income for colleges. Once the students have gone their rooms can be used for conference guests so shorter terms maximises the profit that can be made for this area. There are also a large number of summer schools etc which require accomodation in the colleges.
Reply 45
I'm at Brum Uni, and our terms are 11,11,8 weeks, and I don't get reading week at all, its hard work at the end, but nice when you get 4 weeks off for Christmas and Easter :smile:
Reply 46
parkerpen
No they expect badly written, poorly researched essays. Half my essays were unreadable the other half made sexually suggestive comments about the supervisors partner :rolleyes:
The essays are expected to be well researched. My essays often cited 10-15 works. I didn't read 15 books an essay obviously, sometimes it was just chapters or articles but the amount of reading for humanities and social sciences is pretty immense. You are also expected to construct an argument that is well-written, logical and also innovative/original.


So you have to do that amount of work in a week or so, possibly with other committments in the background.

Is there much time for social or sports stuff? How do you balance work with a social life? I mean it sounds as if the work takes virtually all of your time, and in 'your' I mean the Oxbridge students in general.
n1r4v
ooh out of curiosity wwhere was it held / it is college organised? I don't know aabout the sports stuff :frown:

It was the Pembroke team training session at The Leys. Sorry but I don't know anything about a university one as I was too busy to go to the Freshers' Fair.
T kay
So you have to do that amount of work in a week or so, possibly with other committments in the background.

Is there much time for social or sports stuff? How do you balance work with a social life? I mean it sounds as if the work takes virtually all of your time, and in 'your' I mean the Oxbridge students in general.


There is a lot of work, but that doesn't stop anyone from being active society members, doing lots of sports or getting drunk and having a good time! :biggrin: It's all about time management, accepting that not everything will be perfect and doing a few all-nighters when necessary :yep:
Reply 49
The_Lonely_Goatherd
There is a lot of work, but that doesn't stop anyone from being active society members, doing lots of sports or getting drunk and having a good time! :biggrin: It's all about time management, accepting that not everything will be perfect and doing a few all-nighters when necessary :yep:


That's good to know :smile:
Reply 50
T kay
So you have to do that amount of work in a week or so, possibly with other committments in the background.

Is there much time for social or sports stuff? How do you balance work with a social life? I mean it sounds as if the work takes virtually all of your time, and in 'your' I mean the Oxbridge students in general.

Some people work all the hours possible others get by on a lot less. With a lot of subjects there is always something else you could have read and thus you can never 'complete' the work.
However lots of people manage pretty impressive extracurricular things. Rowing for a 1st VIII will require 5-12 training sessions a week depending on the college. Others spend a lot of time editing or writing for papers and others spend most evenings in the theater or doing music
Reply 51
This impacts directly on the undergraduates too, it means that the people teaching you are active researchers, in touch with the latest research in their field and constantly updating the teaching material.

which might be important for postgraduates, but not really for undergraduates

You are also expected to construct an argument that is well-written, logical and also innovative/original.
well-written and logical, yes, but i dont think they really care whether it's innovative. you're not doing research
yellowwdaisy
... I had around 1-2 a week for english alone at a-level
why is that a lot? do they expect it to be thoroughly researched and planned and perfectly written??


I could write A-level essays within an hour most of the time. You can't do that here, as the reading alone takes a lot of time. 1 essay a week here has been a lot more work than 4 A-level essays a week.
The semester structure without a break in the middle is far from unique to Oxbridge.
well, its oxbridge, there's a reason why only a handful get to go there
Reply 55
Good bloke
Not only that, the first thing they do on return from vacation each is exams.

Um, at Cambridge we - generally speaking - don't have exams after the vacations. Just the usual exams in Easter term, at the end of the academic year.
T kay
So you have to do that amount of work in a week or so, possibly with other committments in the background.

Is there much time for social or sports stuff? How do you balance work with a social life? I mean it sounds as if the work takes virtually all of your time, and in 'your' I mean the Oxbridge students in general.


There's plenty of time. You're doing something wrong if you have time to be bored at Oxbridge. I play three sports, go out or to formal a couple of times a week.

You generally learn to cut out the time you spend doing nothing. Then the time you spend sleeping. Lack of sleep would drive you insane over a prolonged (12 week) period. So you need 8 week terms to keep you sane (well, sane enough to sit tripos anyway- that leaves a fair margin for error).
jcb914
Um, at Cambridge we - generally speaking - don't have exams after the vacations. Just the usual exams in Easter term, at the end of the academic year.

I think he was referring to "collections" at Oxford.
Are there any Oxbridge Law students here? I applied to Cambridge for Law and frankly I don't think I have any clue about the absurd amounts of work I'm going to be expected to complete - hence I need a reality check. 3 papers a week? :confused:
Reply 59
theorangecab
Are there any Oxbridge Law students here? I applied to Cambridge for Law and frankly I don't think I have any clue about the absurd amounts of work I'm going to be expected to complete - hence I need a reality check. 3 papers a week? :confused:

I'm a second year Lawyer at Cambridge. I found last year very tough, but somehow managed to get a 2.1, like most people. It is difficult, there is way too much to learn and we do get set far too much work. I'm the worst person in the world to give "advice" since I can't really cope myself, but the best thing to remember is that everyone is in the same boat, feeling the same pressure - so it's easy to call on people for support. Preparing for supervisions takes the most time for me, since I like to go in feeling prepared (overwise I'm a nervous wreck) - you'll find your own way to deal with it. You study four papers in the first year (criminal/constitutional/civil/tort) and have 2-3 supervisions per week. If you work well under pressure, you'll be fine.

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